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DBS Resistances

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I think that anyone in the stage or around it in episode 102 should have some form of Hypnosis/mind manipulation resistance for shaking off Ribrianne's Hynosis... except some that were visually seen affected like Obuni

Also regardless of having the talisman missing, Zamasu did manage to get out of the sealing jar by his own will. I think Zamasu and Fusion Zamasu should have Sealing Resistance added as well to their profiles.


Any other suggestions? Agreement on the resistances being added?
 
It could be argued about the mind manipulation, i would like to see more input on this. I dont agree with zamasu having sealing resistence as he escaped the jar because Goku forgot the magical seal. There is no proof he would have escaped otherwise.
 
The ribranne thing is resistance to empathic manipulation.

Don't agree with zamasu having resistance to sealing, he was able to escape only cause goku forgot the seal for the jar.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
The ribranne thing is resistance to empathic manipulation.

Don't agree with zamasu having resistance to sealing, he was able to escape only cause goku forgot the seal for the jar.
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Ok I guess I can accept the resistance to empathic manipulation, will that be added?

As for the sealing resistance, Zamasu's form of being was still sealed in the jar, the Talisman was really to ensure he absolutely couldn't get out, talisman or not, he was still somewhat sealed in the jar, he'd have to have some sort of resistance to be able to escape or else he'd just be sitting in there regardless. If not I could just drop the argument here.
 
Anyone can break out of the mafuba if the jar isn't properly sealed so I don't think it qualifies as resistance.

ribrianne's attack definitely isn't mind manipulation but it qualifies for empathic manipulation since her gas was meant to infatuate her opponents and it worked on obuni and old kai , most people were unaffected and frieza called it a foul odor and only toppo was shown trying to avoid smelling it as to not get affected.
 
AguilaR101 said:
Anyone can break out of the mafuba if the jar isn't properly sealed so I don't think it qualifies as resistance
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Was this confirmed in one of the episodes?

Toppo and Dyspo were more so just shaking it out of their system rather than avoiding it actively, otherwise I agree.
 
I agree with resistance to empathic manipulation.

I highly disagree with the Zamasu thing as there wasn't a seal that could keep Zamasu sealed. When there is nothing that can keep him sealed, obviously he can come out eventually.

Mafuba puts Zamasu in the jar, but the seal is what keeps him there.
 
This seems like a reasonable thing to add, the empathic manipulation, not the sealing thing since everyone else debunked it already.
 
I guess, but for all we know everyone who wasn't shown did what Toppo did, so it only applies to those who showed to resist. (Especially Frieza, it went past no selling to actually insulting it).
 
TheJ-ManRequiem said:
I guess, but for all we know everyone who wasn't shown did what Toppo did, so it only applies to those who showed to resist. (Especially Frieza, it went past no selling to actually insulting it).
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We'd likely see a lot more people waving it off and actively avoiding it in that case, writers were definitely saying some were more resistant than others, i'd argue that the ones who were shown struggling really hard with it or outright falling for it like Obuni and Elder Kai should, definitely.
 
Okay I rewatched it. Goku, Freeza, Gohan, Piccolo, Tien, Vegeta, 17, Roshi were all fine. Whis even said that they are all fine and stoic. 18 was not shown so I don't know what to do about her. Beerus, Whis and Shi were fine in the stands too.

From other universes Cabba, Botamo, a couple of U3 robots and Jire were shown to have no effect. Champa, Heles, Gowasu and Rumooshi were fine in the stands too.

People who definitely did not resist it include all the U10 fighters excluding that butterfly girl.

Toppo was affected at first as his cheeks went red but he shook it off instantly and Dyspo was having problems but it seemed like he was resisting it otherwise he would also get red cheeks. Elder Kai only said "What a terrifying attack" he was not shown to be affected visually. And Ganos was blown away by the blast so it's unclear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6MPNrgxG_I
 
AKM sama said:
Okay I rewatched it. Goku, Freeza, Gohan, Piccolo, Tien, Vegeta, 17, Roshi were all fine. Whis even said that they are all fine and stoic. 18 was not shown so I don't know what to do about her. Beerus, Whis and Shi were fine in the stands too.

From other universes Cabba, Botamo, a couple of U3 robots and Jire were shown to have no effect. Champa, Heles, Gowasu and Rumooshi were fine in the stands too.

People who definitely did not resist it include all the U10 fighters excluding that butterfly girl.

Toppo was affected at first as his cheeks went red but he shook it off instantly and Dyspo was having problems but it seemed like he was resisting it otherwise he would also get red cheeks. Elder Kai only said "What a terrifying attack" he was not shown to be affected visually. And Ganos was blown away by the blast so it's unclear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6MPNrgxG_I
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Yeah I'd say for all those visually shown to not be effected by it or shake it off should have a form of resistance, those who weren't shown should have a "possibly" with it and those that were effected like U10, and Old Kai shouldn't, right?
 
We need more staff members to see this thread and make the revisions.
 
only empathic manipulation would be legit to most but some are affected

resistence to sealing no because the seal isn't complete as the tailsman makes the seal complete and legit unless someone breaks out of it with its tailsman on i disagree
 
I have a question. Brianne's profile has the ability listed as "Status Effect Inducement". So will the characters get resistance to empathic manipulation or status effect inducement?

Status Effect Inducement states:

Mind Manipulation: The ability to invade and wreak havoc on their opponent's thoughts to inflict a variety of ailments, such as charming one's opponent to end their resistance, confusing them so that they attack everything in sight indiscriminately, or terrifying them into submission.

  • Emotional State Changing: A more direct version of the above ability. This will allow the user to manipulate the enemy's emotional state, thereby making them infatuated, happy, angry or sad. This can be used to control the enemy, render them immobile or make them a non-threat.

Empathic Manipulation states:

The ability to allow to influence feelings and emotions. Usually associated with mental manipulation, but can sometimes be carried out in other ways (e.g., direct biochemical effects). Controlling emotions can be divided into manipulating positive and negative emotions.


I am kinda confused now. I hope some staff members can clear this up.
 
I was thinking that too until I saw her profile and got confused. So that bit on her profile should be adjusted too, maybe?
 
So there is a unanimous agreement here. Now all that's left is to decide which characters would get these resistances.
 
So which pages need to be updated?
 
Brianne's 'Seduction Hypnosis' links to Status Effect Inducement. So I guess it should instead link to Empathic Manipulation.

Those who should get resistance:

- Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, Gohan, Piccolo, 17, Roshi, Tien, Jiren, Toppo, Dyspo, Cabba and Shin. Whis stated all U7 fighters were fine so 18 should be included too.

- Beerus, Champa, Ramushi, Helles, Whis and Cus were shown to be fine but it doesn't seem like any hakaishin or angel was affected. So possible resistance for the rest of the hakaishins and angels.
 
Okay. Let's wait to see what the other staff members think.
 
Fine with all that, but Toppo and Dyspo were effected, however briefly so im not sure, maybe give more detail on it as they were effected, if say put limited or minor but they did end up shrugging it off so, don't know honestly.
 
Those who were clearly affected by it ended up having their arms crossed and cheeks red.

Dyspo and Toppo's arms were not crossed, and it's kinda hard to see if Dyspo's cheeks were red or not. So imo, he was struggling a bit to resist it but he didn't get outright affected. Toppo did get red cheeks but he shook it off later, so maybe he developed resistance after being affected.

I'm fine with whatever is decided about these 2 btw.
 
Well, Celestial Pegasus and Unite My Rice seem to agree at least.
 
Ryukama says that he also has the same stance on resistances in general. And he agrees with UMR that empathic manipulation makes more sense than status effect inducement.
 
Okay.

Is anybody willing to perform the changes, and if so, which pages need to be temporarily unlocked?
 
I'll do it.

- Goku, Vegeta, Frieza, Gohan, Piccolo, 17, Roshi, Tien, Jiren, Toppo, Dyspo, Cabba and Shin. Whis stated all U7 fighters were fine so 18 should be included too.

Hakaishins and angels are also not affected by Ribranne's influence.
 
You need to write a list of the exact titles of all the character pages that you need to have temporarily unlocked. Othervise the script that I use will give me error messages.
 
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