Zeref vs The Stalker

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Iapitus tries to find a good match for the Stalker, and hopes it isn't a horrible missmatch

A Dark Emperic Wizard who Manipulates Time and Death vs One Stalky Boi

The Stalker is bloodlusted. Zeref is in Base. Speed is equalised. Fight takes place in Fuyuki

 

[Schnee_One]

Can Zeref even hit him?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

At the very least he has some of his summons who can

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Bump

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Bump

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Zeref time stops then breathes.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Zeref time stops then breathes.

Zeref's own brute force probably won't work here unless he can hit intangibles. I know some of his summons can tho

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Zeref's own brute force probably won't work here unless he can hit intangibles. I know some of his summons can tho

Could've sworn that space-time manipulation ignores intangibility.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Zeref sumons Mard Geer after realizing he can't hit him. Memento Mori gg

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Could've sworn that space-time manipulation ignores intangibility.

maybe, maybe not. Depends on the situation

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Zeref sumons Mard Geer after realizing he can't hit him. Memento Mori gg

Time Rewind brings him back, also, does that work on intagibles?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

does existence erasure have to be specified to be able to hit intangibles since the soul is already intangible?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

maybe, maybe not. Depends on the situation

I mean, I don't see any spatial or time manipulation resistance on The Stalker's profile.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

does existence erasure have to be specified to be able to hit intangibles since the soul is already intangible?

not given that context, good point.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I mean, I don't see any spatial or time manipulation resistance on The Stalker's profile.

I mean its kind of implied. What space time powers that Zeref have, that The Stalker has simply resisted by having those powers?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I mean its kind of implied. What space time powers that Zeref have, that The Stalker has simply resisted by having those powers?

He has time stop. Time stop involves affecting the space-time continuum itself, so naturally any 3D object would get frozen in it.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

He has time stop. Time stop involves affecting the space-time continuum itself, so naturally any 3D object would get frozen in it.

Did you even look at The Stalker profile? That's his main power. Time literally stands still unless The Stalker lets it move forward. Stopped time might as well be his normal enviroment

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Did you even look at The Stalker profile? That's his main power. Time literally stands still unless The Stalker lets it move forward. Stopped time might as well be his normal enviroment

Moving in your own time stop =/= you have resistance to time stop.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Moving in your own time stop =/= you have resistance to time stop.

If both you and your opponent stop time, then you can both move.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

If both you and your opponent stop time, then you can both move.

I've wondered how it would play out if two time stoppers froze time at the exact same time.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I've wondered how it would play out if two time stoppers froze time at the exact same time.

For you, my friend, I present to you one of the greatest anime battles of all time. Jotaro vs DIO. Not sure how to show it to you properly, but here is a youtube play list

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jh-H4Dwv5GQ&list=PLF_MaYphIQdcXxG_uuLfvmW-VQqUdr9T8

 

[DragonEmperor23]

they never stopped at the same time though, whenever Dio stopped, Jotaro could move a little and think and see and whenever Jotaro stopped Dio could think and see

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

I see. Either way, Time Stop is the default state for the stalker, so i do not see how you also stopping time would effect him. Literally, time does not move forward unless he lets it, so why would he ever let it move forward in this case?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

What can the Stalker do to hurt Zeref?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Directly? Almost Nothing.

Hax wise? Possession and Temporal Paradoxing

 

[DragonEmperor23]

How does the possession and Temporal Paradoxing work?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Its possession, its likely closest to Spiritual Possesion, with some elements of Physical Possession.

He goes back in time and kills you, basic time travel style murder

 

[DragonEmperor23]

How likely is he to use it and what would he do once he uses it?

How far back can he travel?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

In charater? Almost never. He is too passive for that. But he is bloodlusted here, so he would almost immediately do it. Technically, possession counts as incapacitation so that's a win condition

there are no real known limits on it besides his character, except the obvious ones. But during the DLC he travelled back numerous years iirc

 

[DragonEmperor23]

So when he possess someone what happens to that person?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

So when he possess someone what happens to that person?

...

Its possession. he takes over their body

 

[GyroNutz]

I don't think Zeref has any way to put down the Stalker tbh

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Can they still think? Zeref doesn't have to do anything to summon his demons.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Can they still think? Zeref doesn't have to do anything to summon his demons.

In all likelyhood, no

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Is there any way to know for sure?

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Is there any way to know for sure?

I mean, its almost 100% that he loses conciousness

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

Bump

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

From what I'mr reading, the Stalker has passive timestop?

Is that covered in Zeref's resistances?

 

[GyroNutz]

Yes, Zeref resists time stop

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

From what I'mr reading, the Stalker has passive timestop?

Is that covered in Zeref's resistances?

I believe so, but Zeref has time stop himself regardless