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The scans Demon and I posted were official English versions.
Either way, both show him clearly being affected by it.
Either way, both show him clearly being affected by it.
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Zeref Time Manipulation Resistance
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Wasn't Larcade created after Zeref had decided to reset the timeline? At that point, he wouldn't be trying to kill himself. He would only get resistances to the demons hax besides Larcade.
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We don't actually know. But even if we assume this, then I could just argue that the only reason Zeref removed Mard Geer was because Zeref didn't want to die anymore, not that Mard was incapable of killing him.
Basically either way you go around it, there's still no solid ground that Zeref should have resistances to things that never hit him.
Basically either way you go around it, there's still no solid ground that Zeref should have resistances to things that never hit him.
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Do we know when any of the demons were made in comparison to the others?
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So, what about the original topic of the thread?
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I think everyone's agreed on time manip resistance for fairy heart Zeref.
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Triforce, Homu and Dragon are neutral
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Right.
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That too.
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I think we should just go with giving Zeref Time Manip Resistance and Death Manip Resistance, since nothing else is really concrete about his powers and there isn't enough to just give him those hax resistances
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Alright.
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So, is an agreement reached for these?
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Proposal
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Yeah, Time manip resistance for Fairy Heart form and death manip resistance for both base and FH.
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Resistance to death manip is fine
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TriforcePower1, what about resistance to Time Manipulation for Zeref's Fairy Heart and the other key?
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I'm still neutral about resistance to time manipulation.
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Okay so no one disagrees with the death manip so that can be added for now.
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And "Tri" is fine, you don't need to say the full thing ovo
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What are we giving him Time Resistance for? I got lost in the "Resistance to Demon Curses" discussion that I missed the main topic.
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When he got Fairy Heart, he said he surpassed time and that time and space now belong to him.
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I agree with Death Manipulation resistance. Mavis had the same thing, yet she didn't die. At worse she got a coma due to the mechanics of her immortality / death magic.
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I dunno if that's enough to constitute as resistance though. We generally don't give time manipulators resistance to time manipulation, do we?
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No but Zeref knew time magic before he got FH so this wording implies mastery over it. Plus, Surpassing time > manipulating it.
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Surpassing Time is Immeasurable speed tho.
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Oh, if Timemon can have it, the Z can too.
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Drago based on the profile you link, I realized that Zeref Dragneel should also have resistance to Spatial Manipulation for his Fairy Heart's key.
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New Proposal
- Zeref Dragneel's Time Manipulation Resistance and Death Manipulation Resistance
- Also, Zeref Dragneel's Time Manipulation Resistance isn't Immeasurable speed
- Zeref Dragneel's Spatial Manipulation Resistance for Fairy Heart's key
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I don't agree with the latter for the same reason I don't agree with Zeref getting resistance to the Demon's Curse Magic.KaiserReinhardt said:
I agree with this, people with time manipulation has shown to be able to bypass other peoples time-stop like when ultear entered dimaria's time-stop. Zeref being someone who is much stronger then ultear and dimaria has shown great control over time, and has also shown his own ability to stop time.
He also has created E.N.D with the ability to resist time stop, for zeref to be able to give such ability to E.N.D he himself needs to understand how the ability works.
However, I am inclined to agree with Kaiser's former point. Ultear and Dimaria were moving around in each other's time stop and Ultear could share the resistance to Wendy and Sherly. Zeref obviously had the superior time magic, so technically Zeref should have resistance to time manipulation with Fairy Heart.
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That is one of the points that support it.
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Once again, just because you grant someone an ability does not mean you have it. Base Zeref should not have it.
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I agree
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