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Zeref Time Manipulation Resistance

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The pain manipulation could have killed him. It amplifies by thousands of times. The only reason Erza withstood it is because she's known to have an iron will as seen when she can still function with all her bones broken. At the very least Kyoka would have tried her best to kill Zeref with it.
 
I have no problem with zeref getting resistance to the abilities of the nine demon gate, afterall they were made to kill him. But none of them were able to kill him.
 
KaiserReinhardt said:
I have no problem with zeref getting resistance to the abilities of the nine demon gate, afterall they were made to kill him. But none of them were able to kill him.
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I agree with your point, KaiserReinhardt.
 
Zeref definitely have resistance to Death Manipulation Because he resisted Mavis Vermilio who has been a curse like him

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Mavis Vermilio'sDeath Manipulation:

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Zeref Dragneel's Death Manipulation Resistance

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All of the demons abilities were made with the intent to kill Zeref though. If they could, then he would be dead. Since he isn't that means they couldn't kill him like that.
 
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If i remember correctly it was gray that was hit, but he survived thanks to his demon slayer magic.
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nope, both natsu and gray get hit by it. also zeref should have resistace to death manipulation, after all he survived lullaby
 
so zeref should have mind control resistance(since seliah curse, and mest didnt even try to change zeref memory while he can do it with long range)pain manipulation,Soul Absortion,poison manipulation,magic nullification(keys curse) or any other manipulation abilities which is belong to zeref demons
 
Only Gray gets hit by Memento Mori (Gray protected Natsu), but he shouldn't get resistance to EE. Gray was only able to block it because Demon Slayer Magic trumps Demon Magic. It's verse specific A > B. If Gray got hit by anyone else with EE, he wouldn't have resistance to it.
 
(headcanon part) i think he should have resistance tp mardgeer EE curse, since he didnt let mardgeer to use it, also via this scan
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i think he should have resistance to all those hax which can kill a mage or a normal immortal(aka type 3 immortals)
 
I don't see that as Mard Geer's Memento Mori not being effective to Zeref, but Zeref no longer wanting to die, thus deleting Mard since Zeref's objectives have changed.
 
So Zeref gets resistance to Time Manip, Death Manip, and the Nine Demon Haxes, I'm Ok with that, it makes sense, as for Memento Mori, I think it's too ambiguous to if Zeref can withstand it
 
I really am not sold on Zeref getting resistance to all these powers. They were made to kill him, but had they actually attempted it before? Otherwise, him making them with these powers to kill him would mean he doesn't resist such powers.
 
Yeah, I have to agree with Dragonmasterxyz. Zeref being resistant to things never once attempted on him isn't proof of him being resistant just because he granted them those powers.

We would have to grant a lot of power bestower characters resistances as well, which doesn't sit well with me if they don't have actual feats of resistance.
 
The nine demon gates one and only purpose was to kill zeref, the fact that zeref was still alive shows us that they failed to kill him. Why would zeref create the nine demon gates with the purpose of killing himself, but not let them kill him or even try to kill him?. It makes no sense.
 
Maube not to all their hax, but at least to their insta-kill curses. He shouldn't get resistance to things like mind manip or poison manip, but he should to things like death manip from Lullaby.
 
Nedge1000 gives a solid reasoning of why Zeref shouldn't have these resistances. Larcade is a demon Zeref made and yet Zeref was susceptible to Larcade's ability.

No other demon's ability was used on Zeref, yet we know Laracade's did work. We should not even be discussing the possibility of Zeref having resistances when they never used their abilities on Zeref and the singular one that did had actually affected Zeref.
 
Wasn't Natsu stated to be the only Etherious capable of Killing him? I mean that doesn't contribute to his resistances, but that the 9 Demons were too weak to kill him, plus Mard didn't get a chance to use Memento Mori on him.
 
Nedge1000 said:
Drago, to be honest after further analysis, the thing that I am certain that Zeref Dragneel should is resistance to Death Manipulation since he resisted Mavis Vermilio's, and resistance to Time Manipulation for his Fairy Heart's key and maybe the other key.
The things that go against his other resistance was the fact that Zeref Dragneel was affected by Larcade Dragneel who is one of the demons from the book of Zeref.
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for larcade beuase he is not virigin and he didnt get as much as affected like others, but as kaiser said 9dg made to kill zeref.

also zeref say he try every way, so he must try it on his own,after all zeref trying to kill himself for 400 years
 
TriforcePower1 said:
Maube not to all their hax, but at least to their insta-kill curses. He shouldn't get resistance to things like mind manip or poison manip, but he should to things like death manip from Lullaby.
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This is what I could agree with.
 
In the Chapter where Larcade confirmed everyone who was and wasn't a virgin, and everyone was like wait, why were Zeref and Mavis affected, and then we found about August and everyone was like Oooooohhhh, Mavis must have left "That" out when talking about her past with Zeref with the whole guild
 
We only see him holding his head, almost as if he was annoyed at the stupid action Larcade did... he even says "Our allies are suffering harm from your magic as well".
 
Nah, Zeref is clearly affected, he is surrounded by Larcades Magic, and looks visibly distressed
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