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the dark world is a terraformed sacred realm. It isnt a creation feat in the typical sense
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How would the statements of the Dark World vanishing fit in with that? Going by the definition of “vanish” would mean to disappear suddenly and completely. To me this implies that the Dark World itself is still practically a separate creation from the Sacred Realm, and once it vanishes the Sacred Realm is then reinstated.the dark world is a terraformed sacred realm. It isnt a creation feat in the typical sense
That’s not my point. I’m arguing that the fact that it vanishes entirely implies that it’s a separate construct from the Sacred Realm. (That being said, there is a timeframe thing involving the sages that I do want to get into later once we’re done discussing the Dark World itself.)The world vanishing won’t exactly help given HH said it gradually faded away.
Technically speaking, HH is only supplementary, what see in game takes precedence. Followed by HH. Followed by the encyclopedia.The world vanishing won’t exactly help given HH said it gradually faded away.
HH says a lot of shit, and other material says other things. Ultimately it was best to just go with what was in the game given conflicting info, which demonstrably showed the island fading away, and it not being uni in size as well as the stars in question being localized within the egg, not the actual sky.wasnt the main argument against wind fish being that the island was the only thing that vanished AND HH calls it an illusionary world?
The screenshot I posted say “his Dark World will vanish.” This on top of how differently the game and supplementary lore treat the Dark World and the Sacred Realm is what’s leading me to conclude that they are different constructs.@TentTaku hmm, not sure they mean the realm vanished and the sacred realm is made after. I’m pretty sure what they meant by is the dark influence from Ganon’s twisted heart vanishes from the sacred realm. Unless I missed a line that implies the opposite.
Nah I just ******* hate italso I don’t think we include encyclopedia? I haven’t read the encyclopedia myself but going off Chariot’s comments I assume it’s not consistent with the actual lore.
Pretty sure stabilization is like one of the few things it DID qualify for. Just that the thing he was stabilizing was wacky as **** and wasn't 3-A. Either way it doesn't matter, Wind Fish is kill, let's not beat him any further.Also I thought Wind Fish was downgraded because it didn’t meet stabilization
We'd have to yeah. In fact don't we already do that?If we do accept the amp, are we gonna have a separate tier for the base characters, and another tier just for the triforce amp?
thats the best idea for that, splitting the keysIf we do accept the amp, are we gonna have a separate tier for the base characters, and another tier just for the triforce amp?
That seems reasonable. The only non-Triforce user that should scale is endgame Link to The Past Link, and that was only because he was decked out with basically every measure possible to counter Gabon’s power.If we do accept the amp, are we gonna have a separate tier for the base characters, and another tier just for the triforce amp?
Nope, I’m 99% sure SS link flat out scales to the full triforce, and even one of the Ganon’s and some other Links.We'd have to yeah. In fact don't we already do that?
Yeah but I thought they were like, an end game key? And that Ganon I'm pretty sure is AlttP Ganon and Link, which did have the full triforce, but them getting amped needs to be discussed. Same with SS Link.Nope, I’m 99% sure SS link flat out scales to the full triforce, and even one of the Ganon’s and some other Links.
It wasn’t used as an Amp, he literally just wished him dead and Demise diedFrom what you described, that seems like a power amp to me. If it was literally needed to overpower Demise then I don’t see why not.
Tbh I don't think that inherently discredits it, just makes it far more vague and now needing explicit proof it was amping, which I'm not sure there is any, which kinda goes back to it not ampingThe only real time we see an amp by the full Triforce is when the Triforce is physically within the user, to the point that the artifact comes out of the user after they are defeated. In ALTTP it was just…in another room, not with Ganon.
But Ganon=Agnahim is exactly why the augmentation aspect is significant to me. Since they’re literally the same person, the only power that even could be augmenting him is the Triforce. It doesn’t make sense that he would be augmenting himself.That "mighty evil" that guides and augments him is Ganon himself.
Not the triforce. (Which is weird given Agnahim=Ganon but like, idk that's funky).
It doesn't make sense, but it be like it do. I'd chalk it up to the person saying that not actually knowing they're one and the same and thus all he can deduce is evil wizard man gets power from magic buff beast man.It doesn’t make sense that he would be augmenting himself.
Nope, he's Ganon's alter-ego.Wasn't Agahnim possessed by Ganon?
I mean, it could be considered evil under his possession given it reflects and changes in response to those who wield it. It's not good or evil, but could be considered as such depending on who has it.I see, also the triforce isn’t stated ever to be evil, it’s a neutral force of power. So the triforce amping him wouldn’t make any sense as the triforce isn’t even an evil force to begin with.