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not to derail, but:
These bombs as 8-A?
I disagree heavy
These bombs as 8-A?
I disagree heavy
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I also found this. Maybe this could also be used as further confirmation of the user holding the Triforce’s complete or “true” power.
not to derail, but:
These bombs as 8-A?
I disagree heavy
Yeah I don't think anyone has any objections for the bomb calc being removed.So I assume everyone’s ok with me removing the bomb calc from the discussion part?
Speaking of, apparently Wizzrobes in BOTW can cast storms? Maybe that should be looked into, they're kinda mid fodder.energy as their storms
Yeah sure, assuming it empowers them at all times isn't gonna cut it, but there's also times where it does empower them directly in full.snip
At least for Ganon's piece of power, maybe just +1 to the highest feat that doesn't belong to anyone scaling to the full triforce or some god that are above the pieces individually?Now that you mention it, how are we scaling the individual Triforce pieces exactly? Is there anything from TP or any other game that has any noteworthy feats from the individual pieces?
We shouldn't. I don't think anyone here is gonna scale the whole thing to a single piece, the full triforce is definitely > the sum of its parts, that's kinda its whole point if anything.That sounds a bit like a hax feat if corrupting the sacred realm was all that happened. Also not really sure if we should even use that for the individual triforce pieces when the full triforce is supposed to dwarf all 3 individual pieces.
Empowerment is weirdI want to add my 5 cents to "Does the full Triforce empower its users?"
As I discussed with Dust Collector not much time ago, there seems to be a difference between wielding pieces of the Triforce and the entirety of it.
There are examples all over the series of the Full Trifoce being an item on its own, which doesn't empower its user, not is absorbed within them (unlike the single pieces).
In ALTTP it is stored behind Ganon's room, in Wind Waker it's a one-wish only thing, as seen when the king asks the flood of Hyrule, and the same in Skyward Sword when Link wishes the death of the Imprisoned in the present. In the latter two examples the Triforce just disappear after the wish is granted (but its pieces seemingly remain within their former owners).
Dust Collector also made me notice that Even in Zelda 2 Link summons the Triforce out into the open before using it to break the sleeping spell on Zelda.
All of this makes me very dubious about considering the Triforce as something that directly scales to its owners through some form of empowerment.
Going by this, would it be reasonable to scale ToP above Majora?At least for Ganon's piece of power, maybe just +1 to the highest feat that doesn't belong to anyone scaling to the full triforce or some god that are above the pieces individually?
Given the whole schtick of the ToP granting unparalleled magical and physical strength.
Full triforce definitely, not sure about individual pieces, though I can potentially see the individual pieces scaling above Malladus.Going by this, would it be reasonable to scale ToP above Majora?
It’s probably saying that while treating the use of the Triforce as an inevitability.wait a minute, so the sacred realm gets distorted by whoever sets foot in it? Doesn’t that contradict the triforce warping the sacred realm to the dark world?
i had a post for this in the dark world mega post, ill repost that part:wait a minute, so the sacred realm gets distorted by whoever sets foot in it? Doesn’t that contradict the triforce warping the sacred realm to the dark world?
I feel like distortion of the Sacred Realm and the creation of the Dark World should be treated as two separate major feats. There's several statements in Ocarina of Time that seem to indicate that the Sacred Realm has already fully transformed, barring the Temple of Light, in which Rauru is the last remaining force holding Ganondorf's evil back.Basically corrupting an already corrupted realm, using the same mechanics that did the first corruption, that now applies to individuals who enter the dark realm.
With this in mind, the feat at best is 3-a via reality warping, at worst unquantifiable