Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e ability removal thread

[ThePrimalHunter]

Not the thread for this.

Since the CRT is directly effecting his Pressure Points, which were major arguements in those threads, wouldn't they be removed with this CRT because his reasons for winning would be outdated?

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I can see your point. Unless they're actually attacks the nerves or something it should probably just be removed.

Fair enough

Since the CRT is directly effecting his Pressure Points, which were major arguements in those threads, wouldn't they be removed with this CRT because his reasons for winning would be outdated?

Now that it seems the entirety of OP has been accepted, yes.

@Vzearr you may apply whenever you're ready.

 

[RoggerReggor]

I don't happen to think that Durability Negation is valid. The primary reason for that is because it is due to him attacking a specific part of the body. Durability Negation itself is an ability which allows the user to bypass conventional durability with an attack. But this gets hardly nerfed by what Pressure Points is.

Pressure Points is attacking those points which cannot be trained by you in any form, like your internal organs (e.g. you cannot actually train your balls to take attacks, painful example, I know). Durability Negation, however, is not just related with some points of the body but the entire opponent body. Durability Negation would mean that if I were to attack some part with 10 kJ durability with my 1 kJ attack, it would still be an attack, and the opponent would still feel pain.

The throat region is a very sensitive spot, your entire throat is not covered by muscles but only some parts, and the carotid vessels in the throats are used to actively measure pulses, along with the wrist vessels. And we do know that they are somehow superficial compared to other sensitive vessels. Making the neck a good spot to do an attack and suffocate your opponent, as carotids are one of the primary vessels for delivering substances to brain. Not being that covered (except for few layers of epithelial and the three tunica layers of the vessel itself), it would mean that it is not even comparable to other parts of your body, meaning that something like your chest or higher abdomen which is covered with muscles (and actually has durability of its own) is much more stronger compared to that specific spot on your neck, as you can actually train it.

The neck, however, is a part where attacks counting as DuraNeg would be kind of absurd, only because it doesn't have its own durability (like any major bones or muscle), and because the attack isn't "negating" any durability, it is much like attacking a spot where the concept of durability hardly applies.

 

[Qawsedf234]

Durability Negation, however, is not just related with some points of the body but the entire opponent body. Durability Negation would mean that if I were to attack some part with 10 kJ durability with my 1 kJ attack, it would still be an attack, and the opponent would still feel pain.

One of the aspect of durability negation is internal

Attacking internal structures - An attack that somehow bypasses the upper layers of the body and attacks the internal organs or an equivalent. This can be done in a wide variety of ways. It is considered a form of negation due to the fact that internal structures and specifically parts whose function isn't to support the structure and stability of the body are much easier to injure or otherwise damage

So if you can bypass muscles or similar feature to directly attack organs that can be durability negation

But a throat punch isn't a nerve attack so it's moot.

 

[RoggerReggor]

One of the aspect of durability negation is internal

So if you can bypass muscles or similar feature to directly attack organs that can be durability negation

Allow me to misunderstand. Doesn't that line "An attack that somehow bypasses the upper layers of the body and attacks the internal organs or an equivalent." still mean to say that it would be an attack which bypasses the durability upper layers of the body for attacking the internal structures?

But a throat punch isn't a nerve attack so it's moot.

Yes.

 

[Qawsedf234]

still mean to say that it would be an attack which bypasses the durability upper layers of the body for attacking the internal structures?

If the attack can ignore muscle durability through pressure points, it would still be considered durability negation.

 

[RoggerReggor]

I think Duraneg is applicable if that's the case, then.

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

I think Duraneg is applicable if that's the case, then.

There is still muscles around the neck, so no it wouldn't

 

[RoggerReggor]

There is still muscles around the neck, so no it wouldn't

All depends upon the approach honestly. I was never too good with anatomy, but I still had to do it, and the upper part of the sternocleidomastoid tissues do leave a small opening between sets of muscles to the carotid arteries, which is why most of the people get choked faster when done from sides, because the muscles can be pushed to some extent, which would be a matter of LS and not attack potency depending upon the approach, again. Either way, most of the hangings use the hyoid bones as the support but that's not really it. I am basically okay with it as long as it is upon the standards, though it seems terribly weird personally.