You see Heisenberg, drug dealers don't like me, and I don't like drug dealers.

[Propellus]

Basically Clarence Boddicker vs Walter White.

Boddicker has his Mossberg 5500 and his signature pistol, but he doesn't have the Cobra Assault Cannon.


Walter White has his guns and explosives.


Boddicker is unaware of Walter's true identity.


Both are at least 10 meters away from each other.


The fight takes place here:

Clarence Boddicker (RoboCop):

Heisenberg:

 

[BigSmoke4269]

why does walt have his guns here lol they’re useless

 

[Arceus0x]

why does walt have his guns here lol they’re useless

I mean the guy Walt is fighting is 10-A so i don't see a problem

 

[BigSmoke4269]

he has 9-B durability

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

he has 9-B durability

That's not enough to negate firearms piercing damage

 

[Propellus]

he has 9-B durability

Standard human weaknesses.

 

[Arceus0x]

Area of a 50 cal bullet is 1.318cm^2 and area of a human is 16-18k cm^2. A bullet generally shoots with about 500 joules so, divide 18k by 1.318 and get 13657.0561457. Multiply by 500 and get 6,828,528.07285 joules - wall level. You'd need to scale above that to ignore bullets i think

 

[BigSmoke4269]

in that case i guess it’s a bit closer. walt does go for headshots much more often, and he can briefly survive bullet wounds which had instantly killed other people. however clarence is probably much, much more skilled with his weapon, since he’s killed like 30 cops

 

[Arceus0x]

in that case i guess it’s a bit closer. walt does go for headshots much more often, and he can briefly survive bullet wounds which had instantly killed other people. however clarence is probably much, much more skilled with his weapon, since he’s killed like 30 cops

Clarance is definitely a menace and, to quote mr robocop himself: "he's a cop killer"

 

[Moritzva]

This just really seems very off-beat.

Why does Clarence not know Walter's true identity? Is that implying Clarence doesn't know he's supposed to fight Walter? In which case, I suppose Walt could just shoot him in the back of the head while he walks by, but that's pretty stupid. Otherwise, we're tossing an absolute unit police officer with superhuman durability versus a chemistry teacher with cancer.

 

[Arceus0x]

This just really seems very off-beat.

Why does Clarence not know Walter's true identity? Is that implying Clarence doesn't know he's supposed to fight Walter? In which case, I suppose Walt could just shoot him in the back of the head while he walks by, but that's pretty stupid. Otherwise, we're tossing an absolute unit police officer with superhuman durability versus a chemistry teacher with cancer.

uhh we ain't using THE robocop here, we're using the main villain of the story who has 9-B dura that can be pierced withg guns. Physically he is 10-A

 

[Propellus]

This just really seems very off-beat.

Why does Clarence not know Walter's true identity? Is that implying Clarence doesn't know he's supposed to fight Walter? In which case, I suppose Walt could just shoot him in the back of the head while he walks by, but that's pretty stupid. Otherwise, we're tossing an absolute unit police officer with superhuman durability versus a chemistry teacher with cancer.

How exactly would Clarence know who Walter White is? And if you're referring to RoboCop, then that isn't him at all, he's a main opponent to RoboCop who is just a regular human being.

 

[Moritzva]

I said he has wall-level durability specifically, I thought it was pretty clear I was referring to Clarence. I also referred to him by name. The question was, what’s the point in a match with two dudes with guns except one has 9-B durability, better guns, and training, while the other is a middle aged cancer patient.

 

[Propellus]

I said he has wall-level durability specifically, I thought it was pretty clear I was referring to Clarence. I also referred to him by name. The question was, what’s the point in a match with two dudes with guns except one has 9-B durability, better guns, and training, while the other is a middle aged cancer patient.

Either then, wall level durability or not, it's not going to save him from piercing damaging bullets.

 

[Moritzva]

Either then, wall level durability or not, it's not going to save him from piercing damaging bullets.

It will do a lot more than not having wall level durability.

 

[Propellus]

It will do a lot more than not having wall level durability.

Clarence's durability is just baseline 9-B, Walter can still blow him up with his explosives, and his guns will still apply piercing damage given how Clarence has standard human weaknesses listed, and eventually Clarence dies from simply bleeding to death.

 

[Moritzva]

Okay, that’s cool, but he’s facing a cancer-riddled teacher with weaker equipment and no advantages to speak of. Walt can’t even use his bombs, they’re prep devices and not active combat tools. This isn’t really at all fair.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

walter goes for headshots, while clarence goes for the arms, legs, and torso, so any hit walt lands would be immediately fatal

 

[Arceus0x]

Okay, that’s cool, but he’s facing a cancer-riddled teacher with weaker equipment and no advantages to speak of. Walt can’t even use his bombs, they’re prep devices and not active combat tools. This isn’t really at all fair.

agreed

 

[Arceus0x]

one way you can do this is if you just bloodlust both

 

[Propellus]

one way you can do this is if you just bloodlust both

Now they are

 

[Arceus0x]

Now they are

ok so both go for the head. Now the question is who is the better one at drawing their gun

 

[Moritzva]

Okay, look, this is ridiculous. No matter how you slice it, you're comparing two dudes with guns, except once is a school teacher with cancer and the other is a trained cop with superhuman durability and better weaponry. There's no point to the thread, as Walt has no advantages whatsoever and unless you set up the match to play directly into his hand, he just gets shot.

It's not even the point of his character. Walt isn't a gunman, nor is he a direct fighter. He's been in very few direct confrontations, and I could count the number of guns he has fired personally on one hand. You might as well place Saul Goodman in a boxing arena with Muhammad Ali because Saul was in a boxing match once.

 

[Propellus]

Okay, look, this is ridiculous. No matter how you slice it, you're comparing two dudes with guns, except once is a school teacher with cancer and the other is a trained cop with superhuman durability and better weaponry.

He isn't an officer.

 

[Galvino]

Okay, look, this is ridiculous. No matter how you slice it, you're comparing two dudes with guns, except once is a school teacher with cancer and the other is a trained cop with superhuman durability and better weaponry. There's no point to the thread, as Walt has no advantages whatsoever and unless you set up the match to play directly into his hand, he just gets shot.

It's not even the point of his character. Walt isn't a gunman, nor is he a direct fighter. He's been in very few direct confrontations, and I could count the number of guns he has fired personally on one hand. You might as well place Saul Goodman in a boxing arena with Muhammad Ali because Saul was in a boxing match once.

I agree, Walt should always have some prep for a match with him to be interesting imo

 

[BigSmoke4269]

there goes walts only wincon

 

[BigSmoke4269]

remove bloodlust, otherwise clarence just headshots walt instantly

 

[Propellus]

remove bloodlust, otherwise clarence just headshots walt instantly

Well damn, should I leave Walt staying bloodlusted or this ends up being a stomp?

 

[BigSmoke4269]

no, walter goes for headshots anyways

 

[Moritzva]

no, walter goes for headshots anyways

No, Walt goes for not being in gunfights in the first place.

 

[BigSmoke4269]

all of his direct gun kills are headshots