The White family dispute (Walter White vs Carrie White)

[Peppersalt43]

Scorned Psion : 0
Drug Lord : 7
Incon : 0

Starting distance is 40 meters with no line of sight
Speed equalized
Walter has a month of prep time

Spoiler: Story Below

Once calmed down from the incident, Carrie was escorted home. In the process, Walter joined up with Jesse to meet with her guardian in her home. As expected, this doesn't go so well.

"... And now you come back, huh Walter? How's that sCiEnCe treating you? Is eVoLuTiOn giving you a paycheck? Is the rOuNd EaRtH giving you a place to work?..." Margaret trailed on as Carrie, Walter, and Jesse sat there, listening to her rant.
"Mr. White, this bitch is insane" the drug dealer whispered.

"Jesse, why don't you lead her out? I need to talk to my niece" his boss replied.
"Alright uh, Mrs. White. I need some sugar for my tea and uh, we ran out" Jesse said, "accidentally" knocking over the sugar container on the table "Can you show me where I can get more?".

Margaret proceeded to bring him to the pantry, leaving Walter and Carrie in the room alone.

"Hello, Carrie. I haven't seen you since that incident with your mother. How have you been doing?" the drug lord asked, wanting to start this out normally.
"You... you're that drug lord on the news... Heisenberg, is it?" the teenager asked, her uncle's demeanor changing instantly.

"You're goddamn right".
"You're here to take here to take me from my mom. To use me for my powers...".

Lights began to flicker in the room, a tea plate sliding down from the table and shattering on the ground. Hearing this, her mother instantly tried to rush into the room, only for a cupboard to be dropped in front of it, barricading them inside.

"Listen, I've been told of how your mother treats you. Whatever I'm offering can't be much worse than what she's been doing to you. I promise you'll-" Walter explained, only for all nearby windows and glass to be shattered in an instant, Carrie screaming in fear of the true monster in the room. The drug lord quickly jumps out, managing to land with relatively minimum injuries.

"Jesse, it failed. Prepare the countermeasures" Walter said through his communicator.

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

An advantage Carrie has here is her Clairvoyance. With that, it will be pretty hard for Walter to sneak attack her or shoot her without getting spotted, and it will be hard for him to trick her into walking into a bomb or something. Plus, her technology manipulation could in all honesty probably shut off the bombs and stop them from exploding or something. I think that no matter what though, this fight is likely going to come down to who can raise their arm faster. Weird deciding factor for a fight I know but hear me out

Walter will obviously need to lift up his arm in order to shoot Carrie assuming he brought a gun, which he would given how he has prep, and Carrie will need to lift up her arm to use her telekinisis, as it doesn't seem to be the type of thing she can just do with a thought. She seemingly needs to stick her arm out in order to target people. Her only passive ability seems to be Technology Manipulation, which she does still have some control over

So pretty much, I'm probably leaning towards incon. Any traps Walter lays out around the house could be countered by Carrie's Clairvoyance & Technology Manipulation unless if Walter is willing to nuke the entire house and risk his own life in the process, and they will eventually manage to make contact with each other. From there, it's just a question of who can raise their arm faster. And because speed is equal, they will likely kill each other at the same time, leading to an incon

Also, I love the story. I really like the idea of Walter and Margaret being siblings. I'd pay to hear a conversation between the 2

 

[Peppersalt43]

Also, I love the story. I really like the idea of Walter and Margaret being siblings. I'd pay to hear a conversation between the 2

Glad you like it, also counted

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

So, how experienced is Carrie in using her powers in combat? Haven’t seen the movie but I don’t think she’s experienced enough to take down Walter without a direct line of sight. Walt’s a master of planning and improvising in tough situations, for example he was capable of building a machine on the back of his car that shot a machine gun and killed Jack’s gang in a little less than a day. Imagine what he could do in a month, especially with everything else he’s done.

Plus due to Carrie not having a line of sight, Walt’s stealth mastery would play a big part in allowing him to hide but get a clear line of fire to shoot her or set off a trap without her seeing him. Nearly all of Walt’s traps are based on chemicals or just using guns iirc, which would hinder Carrie’s tech manip useless. Also take into consideration that literally anything Walt tries to use will likely kill, albeit Carrie’s powers can still kill Walt too. However I believe that Walt’s much more likely to win in this scenario given Walt has an advantage in prep, numerous types of equipment that would kill her upon impact, versatility, stealth, intelligence, and arguably experience.

I’m voting Walt for now.

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Glad you like it, also counted

Also liked the story as well

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Plus due to Carrie not having a line of sight, Walt’s stealth mastery would play a big part in allowing him to hide but get a clear line of fire to shoot her or set off a trap without her seeing him

Wouldn't her Clairvoyance counter this? It seems pretty powerful, so I feel like she would be able to detect where he was, thus removing any chance of a sneak attack

Also, Walter has used plenty of explosives when given prep. He used pipe bombs against Gus, and he used the mercury against Tuco. I think he would probably go for a simular strategy here

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bump, let's continue the discussion

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Wouldn't her Clairvoyance counter this? It seems pretty powerful, so I feel like she would be able to detect where he was, thus removing any chance of a sneak attack

Sure she could predict it, but would she be fast enough to dodge a dozens of bullets, explosions, or anything else Walt sets up? Haven’t seen the movie but it says on her profile that she gets stabbed, which leads to me believing that she doesn’t lead with clairvoyance in combat and only used it for the baby prediction.

Also, Walter has used plenty of explosives when given prep. He used pipe bombs against Gus, and he used the mercury against Tuco. I think he would probably go for a simular strategy here

Yes, I can agree to that but I still believe Walt’s stealth mastery would be effective if the pipe bombs, fulminated mercury, or anything else he created over a month doesn’t get her (which it’s likely she dies to the explosion imo) He could finish her off with a gun as his backup plan (assuming her clairvoyance isn’t that good in combat like I argued above)

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Sure she could predict it, but would she be fast enough to dodge a dozens of bullets, explosions, or anything else Walt sets up? Haven’t seen the movie but it says on her profile that she gets stabbed, which leads to me believing that she doesn’t lead with clairvoyance in combat and only used it for the baby prediction.

Carrie would make a great abdominal ultrasound machine

Either way, I'll switch my vote to Walter. With prep, nothing is really stopping him from just making mustard gas or something and wearing a gas mask while Carrie gets gassed to death. Plus, Carrie has pretty much no fighting experience. She nearly got killed by her mother, a regular woman with a knife. Walter with a gun should be able to do the trick, unless they get into the hand raising competition again

Walter FRA

 

[jojo123]

Walter FRA

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Carrie would make a great abdominal ultrasound machine

Damn this type of ability goes right next to the usefulness of Electro’s (Amazing Spider-Man/MCU) sound manip via making his electricity hit hard enough to play the itcy bitcy spider to mess with Spider-Man. I should make a thread dedicated to listing weird classifications and uses for abilities by characters

Anyway I’m voting Walt

 

[ShionAH]

Waltuh...put your gun away waltuh. I am not winning against you right now FRA

 

[The_Almighty_Wholesome]

Bump

 

[Peppersalt43]

All counted by the way

 

[Peppersalt43]

Hey, 3 more votes to grace!

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

Walter fra

 

[Dinamic8000]

Heisenberg FRA

 

[BigSmoke4269]

i think thats grace, i counted 7 votes for walt here

 

[Peppersalt43]

i think thats grace, i counted 7 votes for walt here

No, it's 6. @The_Almighty_Wholesome, @ThePrimalHunter, @jojo123, @TheKillerYT, @Dinamic8000, and @Artorimachi_Meteoraft

Walter FRA

Now it's grace

 

[BigSmoke4269]

oh wait almighty wholesome voted twice for some reason