Yhwach vs Ultron (MCU)

[Yomi_Schwarz]

How will he prevent Ultron from using Time Hax if he cant even perceive its even happening?

He understands the nature of things he sees. Again he does not PERCEIVE time stop but he KNOWS he has timestop. two completely different things.

Yhwach prevents the activation of stuff he can see in the future
How can prevent the activation of something he cant see nor perceive?

He knows he has timestop through the future and he notices a gap in his foresight kinda like the effect with Dio's time stop.

He stops him from ever having to use it since he needs to activate it and it's out of character for him to use it it seems.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Where the heck Acausal Type 2 anywhere on Yhwach's Profile?

That's my bad lmao i can admit when i make mistakes since it recently got revised.

It's still a fact tho that the Mimihagi was immune to Yhwach's own cosmic awareness and it was subjagated to his existence.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

That's my bad lmao i can admit when i make mistakes since it recently got revised.

It's still a fact tho that the Mimihagi was immune to Yhwach's own cosmic awareness and it was subjagated to his existence.

YH got resistance of mimihagi for the precog tho

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

YH got resistance of mimihagi for the precog tho

Yeah but the CRT revised it as resistance to that instead of acausal.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Yeah but the CRT revised it as resistance to that instead of acausal.

Yes, but what I'm saying is that he has resistance to precog on his level which now that I think about it, it helps against the cosmic awareness of Ultron

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Yes, but what I'm saying is that he has resistance to precog on his level which now that I think about it, it helps against the cosmic awareness of Ultron

Yes it does.

 

[ricatthegoat]

Solid Counter
Point 1 Goes to You Bern

Okay so how will Yhwach steal the stones?

sneaky Yhwach

 

[ricatthegoat]

Yhwach stomps?There is no way for Ultron to touch X-Axis Yhwach.

 

[speedster352]

Yhwach stomps?There is no way for Ultron to touch X-Axis Yhwach.

Yeah, Yhwach has way too much hax and the almighty on top of that.

 

[speedster352]

sneaky Yhwach

Yhwach can just keep making clones of himself with the visionary with the same haxes as him and increase his powers.

 

[TauanVictor]

COWARDS!!!

 

[Arcker123]

Yhwach FRA. Really nice to see how this wasn’t a stomp.

 

[speedster352]

So what are the votes?

 

[Delta333]

Yhwach FRA

 

[Ss3micah]

I was gonna continue this debate but I don't wanna get 4 v 1 again
Its super unfair that Top Tier bleach supporters are facing just me
An Average Tier Marvel Supporter

And I have absolutely no assist on this
Seriously
WHERE ARE THE MARVEL SUPPORTERS

Lolol
Anyways I'm throwing in the Towel

GG Bernkastell
GG Speedster
GG TOAA
GG Swerzye
GG Yomi

And all the other debaters that made this fun

 

[Livinmeme]

I was gonna continue this debate but I don't wanna get 4 v 1 again
Its super unfair that Top Tier bleach supporters are facing just me
An Average Tier Marvel Supporter

And I have absolutely no assist on this
Seriously
WHERE ARE THE MARVEL SUPPORTERS

Lolol
Anyways I'm throwing in the Towel

GG Bernkastell
GG Speedster
GG TOAA
GG Swerzye
GG Yomi

And all the other debaters that made this fun

EZ

 

[TauanVictor]

And I have absolutely no assist on this
Seriously
WHERE ARE THE MARVEL SUPPORTERS

DON'T WORRY, YOU LOST THE BATTLE, BUT NOT THE WAR, I WILL SUMMON MORE MARVEL SUPPORTERS!!!

or at least try

 

[speedster352]

What are the votes anyway?

 

[speedster352]

DON'T WORRY, YOU LOST THE BATTLE, BUT NOT THE WAR, I WILL SUMMON MORE MARVEL SUPPORTERS!!!

or at least try

Any counters to the schrifts plus the almighty?

 

[Livinmeme]

DON'T WORRY, YOU LOST THE BATTLE, BUT NOT THE WAR, I WILL SUMMON MORE MARVEL SUPPORTERS!!!

or at least try

EZNT

 

[Sir_Ovens]

tier 7/6 characters can wield it with damaged Arm as the side effect

tier 6 characters can wield and control all of the infinity stones powers, Yhwach just need to steal it and he will be empowered by the stones powers, because thats how it works, wielders of the stones will be empowered

This completely ignores the context that the radiation it gives off was stated to be gamma, something Hulk absorbs. Thanos is quite literally, built different. Ultron in Vision's body was already built around the Soul Stone so it only makes sense that he is compatible. So unless you have some caveat, you will most definitely blow up or die an excruciating death.

The Almighty doesn't work in other universes, which Ultron can traverse and snipe from. Plus, Time Stone can show him exactly what he needs to do to circumvent The Almighty.

 

[speedster352]

This completely ignores the context that the radiation it gives off was stated to be gamma, something Hulk absorbs. Thanos is quite literally, built different. Ultron in Vision's body was already built around the Soul Stone so it only makes sense that he is compatible. So unless you have some caveat, you will most definitely blow up or die an excruciating death.

The Almighty doesn't work in other universes, which Ultron can traverse and snipe from. Plus, Time Stone can show him exactly what he needs to do to circumvent The Almighty.

What about the other schrifts?

 

[Arcker123]

The Almighty doesn't work in other universes, which Ultron can traverse and snipe from. Plus, Time Stone can show him exactly what he needs to do to circumvent The Almighty.

Yhwach resists precog on his level that is>>> Time stone precog so that doesn’t help him. X axis negs all of ultrons attacks in virtue of intangiblity that characters with NPI can’t do anything about.

This completely ignores the context that the radiation it gives off was stated to be gamma, something Hulk absorbs. Thanos is quite literally, built different. Ultron in Vision's body was already built around the Soul Stone so it only makes sense that he is compatible. So unless you have some caveat, you will most definitely blow up or die an excruciating death.

Ok? Thanos was still tier 6 and isn’t stated to absorb gamma radiation but could still use all six stones offensively with no drawbacks (When he used the beam against Thor for example). The only time all 6 stones harmed the users was the snap and even then tier 6 Thanos still survived it.

 

[StekFence]

Ok? Thanos was still tier 6

The tier is irrelevant. It’s base on your resistance to the Radiation. I’m pretty sure even putting the stone on harms you.

 

[Bernkastelll]

This completely ignores the context that the radiation it gives off was stated to be gamma, something Hulk absorbs. Thanos is quite literally, built different. Ultron in Vision's body was already built around the Soul Stone so it only makes sense that he is compatible. So unless you have some caveat, you will most definitely blow up or die an excruciating death.

Then radiation will be useless as Yhwach in this key does not even have a physical body

 

[speedster352]

The tier is irrelevant. It’s base on your resistance to the Radiation. I’m pretty sure even putting the stone on harms you.

Why do you keep forgetting about the the schrifts?

 

[Livinmeme]

Yeah radiaton isnt doing jackshit to what basically is energy

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

The Almighty doesn't work in other universes, which Ultron can traverse and snipe from. Plus, Time Stone can show him exactly what he needs to do to circumvent The Almighty.

1.) Yhwach's cosmic awareness can span realms. The Almighty's sight is more than capable of doing the same.

2.) The Almighty stops him from doing anything in the first place.

3.) The Time stone won't show him anything since Yhwach is immune to any precognitive/clairvoyant/analytically based abilities via Mimihagi.

 

[speedster352]

The tier is irrelevant. It’s base on your resistance to the Radiation. I’m pretty sure even putting the stone on harms you.

Here the schrifts are so op add great with the almighty then Yhwach is unbeatable in this match.

 

[speedster352]

The tier is irrelevant. It’s base on your resistance to the Radiation. I’m pretty sure even putting the stone on harms you.

How does ultron counter dozens of clones of yhwach with the same hax as yhwach and increasing his power many times over?

 

[Arcker123]

The tier is irrelevant. It’s base on your resistance to the Radiation.

This is a bit weird considering that characters like Hulk who absorb energy like that are still harmed by it. There’s probably some AP component.

I’m pretty sure even putting the stone on harms you.

it’s only shown harming High 7-A hulk. Thanos who’s baseline 6-C had all of the stones with him and wasn’t harmed and could fight with all of them. He was only harmed by the snap.

 

[speedster352]

This is a bit weird considering that characters like Hulk who absorb energy like that are still harmed by it. There’s probably some AP component.

it’s only shown harming High 7-A hulk. Thanos who’s baseline 6-C had all of the stones with him and wasn’t harmed and could fight with all of them. He was only harmed by the snap.

Why argue this? It won’t work on yhwach anyway since he doesn’t have a physical body to begin with.

 

[Livinmeme]

Radiations work via destroying your ADN and changing your genes (there is also destroying ion but i am not to sure about that) but that literally doesnt matter as ywach is just energy, and not even conventional energy, he is spiritual energy

Oh also the AP would be bellow 6-C so aint doing jackshit to ywach

 

[Arcker123]

Yhwach also has low godly and type 4 with the almighty and 8 immortality with schrifts. The radiation doesn’t have the feats to suggest it would kill him at all.

 

[StekFence]

Kk

 

[Ss3micah]

Damn
Im impressed lolol
1 comment from Sir Ovens and the full force of the Bleach Fandom have come to challenge him

4 v 1 NIGHTMARE FLASHBACKS INTENSIFIES!!!

 

[Ss3micah]

I swear if he fails im voting Yhwach

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Damn
Im impressed lolol
1 comment from Sir Ovens and the full force of the Bleach Fandom have come to challenge him

4 v 1 NIGHTMARE FLASHBACKS INTENSIFIES!!!

You know, you can easily turn this tide back to your favor by saying Ultron has no achievable win con so this is a stomp and can't be concluded but you didn't hear that from me.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Damn
Im impressed lolol
1 comment from Sir Ovens and the full force of the Bleach Fandom have come to challenge him

4 v 1 NIGHTMARE FLASHBACKS INTENSIFIES!!!

You cannot escape...

 

[Arcker123]

You know, you can easily turn this tide back to your favor by saying Ultron has no achievable win con so this is a stomp and can't be concluded but you didn't hear that from me.

Aren’t his wincons some 4D stuff from the stones?