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Yhwach vs Ultron (MCU)
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Oh yeah yhwach power Nulls and dog walks.
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Yhwach uses FateHax, Ultron resists, Ultron uses his Infinity Stones, Yhwach dies.
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Yhwach's fate hax is not "time manipulation" in a conventional sense.
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ultron Résistance is base line lol.
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Yhwach doesnt need to use Fate Hax, Ultron resist fate hax, sure, but his profile doenst list resistance to precognition, which means Yhwach can become immune to some of Ultron powers
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He is becoming inmune to every power ultron trow at him
speedster352
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Yhwach also has the schrifts so that means low godly regeneration
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I don't think Yhwach can Mimic nor Null the Infinity Stones
The Infinity Stones were created from the Big Bang which was initiated by the Celestials who are 4-D Beings and the stones themselves have power comparable to Celestials themselves
Yhwach Nulling 4-D power comparable to the Celestials is NLF
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Lesser beings who try to wield the power of the stones would face dire consequences:
Johann Schmidt was cursed to Vormir to guard the Soul Stone after touching an active Tesseract (Space Stone), Jane Foster became ill after being exposed to the Aether (Reality Stone), Carina exploded when she touched the Power Stone
Yhwach trying to wield stones power would end up killing him especially given the Higher Dimensional Nature of the Stones
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Not all powers from Infinity Stones are 4-D
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How so?
All of them were made from the Celestials Big Bang
And it takes beings as powerful as the Celestials to wield them Properly
And even ignoring that
Ultron still has all the stones right now
Yhwach would not be able to Null all of them
And trying to Mimic even one would kill him as the Celestials Power is far above him
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tier 7/6 characters can wield it with damaged Arm as the side effect
tier 6 characters can wield and control all of the infinity stones powers, Yhwach just need to steal it and he will be empowered by the stones powers, because thats how it works, wielders of the stones will be empowered
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Well, he can try to absorb it
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Ultron can Counter by Spamming Teleportation and DT
Time Stop with Time Stone
Galaxy Nuke
Or Large Size Type 7
Heavy Doubt on Yhwach absorbing Large Size Type 7
speedster352
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And use the almighty to take it or use the visionary to imaging himself with the stones.
speedster352
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The almighty
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Ultron resists Fate Hax
Plus its really iffy if he can use Hax on the Stones when they are 4-D by Nature
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I mean, Yhwach regen from galaxy nuke, and Ultron only stays large size for few seconds
Isnt it 3-D, touched by several 3-D characters? I mean sure, they together reach 4-D potency, but they still are physically 3-D
speedster352
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Yhwach can use the yourself to mimic ultron and his powers and imaging himself with the stones and gauntlet with the visionary
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True
Yhwach can likely Regen
But then he would have to fight Ultron in space
Space combat is something Ultron is use to but not Yhwach
Physically 3-D sure
I'm just saying that you can't Hax the stones outta Ultron
Many characters capable of doing so couldn't and when fighting Ultron for the Time Stone, everyone had to go after it physically rather than just haxing it to them
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Ohhh cool
Ultron is gonna use the Yourself and Visionary to create 4-D powered stones and grant himself 4-D powers
Yeah No
Not gonna happen
speedster352
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Yhwach has self sustenance 1 so he can fight in space
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Yhwach doesn't have feats nor Experience fighting in Space so we don't know how well he would do
Also, even if he can breath in space, Zero Gravity is gonna get the better of him and he's gonna be endlessly and uncontrollably drifting around
Ultron has the experience and has dominated Zero Gravity and can control himself and maneuver perfectly in space
So its still Ultron's advantage
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Is this serious? Yhwach dogwalks
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Care to explain why?
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based on the profiles he has far superior hax. But it could be a close one, I didn't see the "speed equalized" thing.
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So Yhwach dog walks Ultron because he has more Hax?
And yet your unable to identify how those haxs can be used to Defeat Ultron nor have you taken into account how many of Yhwach's haxs Ultron resists and can counteract?
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SC gets negged
Yhwachs Fate Hax is resisted
Yhwachs Passive Powernull cannot null 4D hax
Ultron Stomps here
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The damage doesn’t come from ap tho, it’s hax based, radiation I believe.
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Easy counter because of precog due to almighty.
Ultron never did this iirc and isn't listed on his profile, and even if he has, it isn't something he'd do even when bloodlusted, considering the fact that he didn't use it once while fighting the Avengers.
Doesn't work because of precog, reactive evolution, fate manipulation, and immortality with almighty.
See above
1. Ultron's fate hax resistance is pretty limited and pales in comparison to Yhwach's fate hax abilities. The mechanics of the watcher's fate hax is still vague and clearly limited, as he himself didn't even know if Clint and Nat were gonna find Zola. I guess they have fate resistance, too.
2. The stones themselves are 3-D, they have 4-D properties (which is something Yhwach has, too).
Read my other response:
"based on the profiles he has far superior hax. But it could be a close one, I didn't see the "speed equalized" thing."
I originally thought it was a stomp, but he still wins regardless.
Nope
Nope. See above
Why?
Not even close lmao
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So soul crush works on robots now lol
Yeah it’s still fate resistence make a CRT to make it limited
Yhwach has no feats of nulling 4-D shit
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No??? The fate limit isnt limited but is clearly less impressive and less versatile than Ywach
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None of the reasons I listed above have anything to do with soul crush, so it seems you didn't read what I actually typed. Either way, Ultron literally has a soul stone in his head.
This isn't a response. I never said he didn't have fate resistance, I said it's likely extremely limited, due to the watcher having a mysterious and vague cosmic awareness ability. We don't know the true mechanics of it, and we know it doesn't always work.
I never said he did. I said he had 4-Dimensional properties, which is pretty much undeniable
speedster352
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Like I said yhwach has all the schifts so that means intangibility and durabity negation with the x axis, reactive evolution and reactive power level and low godly regeneration with miracle and deathdealing and reality warping with the visionary and misfortune redirection with the balance.
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