Yhwach vs Gilgamesh

[ScarletFirefly]

Yeah considering this thread has descended into tomfoolery, with people posting memes and changing votes just for joking, I am considering to lock this. Anyone interested in genuine debate might do so in another thread.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Gilgamesh for reasons above

I'd love to count this, but can you say what reasons? Shouldn't take more than a few lines.

 

[FateAlbane]

@Scarlet If it's a good enough suggestion, offtopic replies from now on could be deleted. Since Matthew is following the thread already, he could do so.

Otherwise, I don't have anything to say against it, really.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@ScarletFirefly

I would rather not close this because it devolved because of one user or another. There are still plenty here who are debating this seriously, albeit with a sense of humor as well.

I'm not including Rice on my vote count, and I've asked for those who just said "For reasons above" to specify them.

 

[Schnee_One]

I feel like there's still enough actual debating to count this, and Matt has properly counted the votes.

That said, if that's what must be done, then alright.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

If you can filter out the joke votes and whatnot fine.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

People who voted "X for reasons above" and therefore will not be counted unless they specify.

Unite My Rice (Also just joke votes), Zensum, Shadowbokunohero, ZeedMillenniummon89, AllanSaiyan

This in turn makes the vote count like:

Gilgamesh: 9 (Monarch Laciel, Matthew Schroeder, Ramesses the Sun King, ThisIsMySwagPack, Aizenishere, Burning Full Fingers, William Shadow, Rin Rokudo, ZeedMillenniummon89)

Yhwach: 4 (LordAizenSama, Yomi Shwarze, Bepo4151, AppleLord)

 

[ZeedMillenniummon89]

Gilgamesh for reasons above

I'd love to count this, but can you say what reasons? Shouldn't take more than a few lines.

Yours and Monarch's. This is why I hate these kinds of threads, the ones that are just full of debating with no solid votes

 

[Schnee_One]

There's quite a lot of votes here Zeed.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Zeed

Thank you.

 

[Stick695]

yhwach touches gilgamesh w/ the almighty/ visionary & gains all information about him which causes him to evolve & gain all of gilgamesh's powers w/ the compulsory

there.

 

[AllanSaiyan]

Yhwach for above reasons.

Via almighty, sternitter powers and existence erasure.

 

[ThisIsMySwagPack]

Imagine Yhwach using Enuma Elish and killing himself in the process.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

yhwach touches gilgamesh w/ the almighty/ visionary & gains all information about him which causes him to evolve & gain all of gilgamesh's powers w/ the compulsory
there.

That's quite a NLF there. Firstly you'd have to assume it would even work, considering BB which is basically Almighty 2.0 couldn't defeat Gilgamesh.

I also see that few people are taking in account the sheer gap in raw power between the characters. Yhwach is at best 5-B, while Gilgamesh is 5-A. In addition, Yhwach's durability is 5-C.

Gil is also a much better fighter and could take Yhwach down before he could act.

 

[Schnee_One]

I don't know about Gil being a better fighter.

 

[Stick695]

yhwach touches gilgamesh w/ the almighty/ visionary & gains all information about him which causes him to evolve & gain all of gilgamesh's powers w/ the compulsory
there.

That's quite a NLF there. Firstly you'd have to assume it would even work, considering BB which is basically Almighty 2.0 couldn't defeat Gilgamesh.
I also see that few people are taking in account the sheer gap in raw power between the characters. Yhwach is at best 5-B, while Gilgamesh is 5-A. In addition, Yhwach's durability is 5-C.

Gil is also a much better fighter and could take Yhwach down before he could act.

you seem to be forgetting that pernida parngjass was able to use it on an opponent that was far more powerful then him & still gain information about him & evolve.

take yhwach down w/ imagination realization, fate manipulation, future manipulation & omni precognition, power immunity/negation?

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

"Omni precognition" lol

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

That's literally useless here.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

How will any of Yhwach's powers work on Gil when he beat both BB and Kiara who have much better powers as well as the advantadge in raw strength.

 

[AppleLord]

Isn't 5-A a stomp? None of Yhwach's powers will work on Gilga because people will call it a NLF and I can't remember if people above already claimed that. This is a a stomp on Gilga's favor the thread needs to be close now.

 

[Golden_Void]

Yhwach uses The Yourself, effectively turning himself into Gil, stacked with The Almighty and sternritter powers, Gil >>>>> Gil

Gil stomps.

 

[Schnee_One]

They won't work because people will call it an NLF?

 

[Stick695]

How will any of Yhwach's powers work on Gil when he beat both BB and Kiara who have much better powers as well as the advantadge in raw strength.

ichigo w/ his bankai was clearly superior in strength, but that didn't hold yhwach from raping him.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

By the way, in regard to Yhwach's Precognition powers...

Gilgamesh has that too.

It's called Sha Nagba Imuru.

 

[AppleLord]

How will any of Yhwach's powers work on Gil when he beat both BB and Kiara who have much better powers as well as the advantadge in raw strength.

ichigo w/ his bankai was clearly superior in strength, but that didn't hold yhwach from raping him.

That isn't true at all. Ichigo isn't Planet level on his profile.

 

[Stick695]

& we haven't talked about royd & loyd who's powers he both possesses which means that he can literally turn into gilgamesh himself, this was used on yhwach even though yhwach is on another level.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Ichigo isn't stronger than Yhwach. Even I know this.

 

[Golden_Void]

& we haven't talked about royd & loyd who's powers he both possesses which means that he can literally turn into gilgamesh himself, this was used on yhwach even though yhwach is on another level.

"Yhwach uses The Yourself, effectively turning himself into Gil, stacked with The Almighty and sternritter powers, Gil >>>>> Gil

Gil stomps."


Ninja'd :^)

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

If the only way you can possibly beat your opponent is by turning into your opponent, then that says a lot to begin with.

 

[Stick695]

Ichigo isn't stronger than Yhwach. Even I know this.

in terms of raw strength he is lmao... did you read the same chapter as i did?, w/o the almighty yhwach would've gotten stomped into the dirt by cihigo's bankai, if yhwach was superior in terms of strength then he never owuld've used the almighty in the first place.

 

[Golden_Void]

If the only way you can possibly beat your opponent is by turning into your opponent, then that says a lot to begin with.

Didn't stop Zamasu :^)

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Ichigo is 5-C

Yhwach is 5-B

 

[AppleLord]

Ichigo isn't stronger than Yhwach. Even I know this.

in terms of raw strength he is lmao... did you read the same chapter as i did?, w/o the almighty yhwach would've gotten stomped into the dirt by cihigo's bankai.

Planet level Ichigo Confirmed. :^) Quick make an upgrade thread. OvO

 

[Austrian-Man-Meat]

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

"The Yourself" only copies techniques and powers so he won't get Gil's equipment that being Ea and GoB which requires a key so Gil still wins regardless.

 

[Stick695]

Ichigo is 5-C
Yhwach is 5-B

then tell me, why did yhwach activate the almighty in the first place if yhwach is superior to him?

yhwach even said so himself that he didn't want to use it against his long awaited meeting w/ his "child", but he was forced to due to ichigo's superior strength.

https://gyazo.com/0c38c8d0792ba81924f2c98bacdb1cfc

 

[Schnee_One]

Because he only has 5C durability.

 

[Stick695]

i mean like, please yhwach could just imagine a thousand people & kill them all which will give him huge powerboosts due to the overkill then the miracle after he happens to get "killed" & regenerates, imagine some clones that cheer for him for the superstar in order to gain another powerboost... this is yhwach w/ all of his powers not just the almighty lul.

he can literally imagine clones of himself & absorb them.

 

[Ramesses_the_Sun_King]

Ea can kill 4-B beings that lack the concept of death. What is a shitty power boost from thousands of random fodder going to do.

 

[Stick695]

Ea can kill 4-B beings that lack the concept of death. What is a shitty power boost from thousands of random fodder going to do.

lmao

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