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Well...That's all you had to do bro
Ig so, seeing as I have no proof to argue against that I'll continue doing research on dimensionality...Well what you thought is not how things work here and unless you got a better argument to offer then Yhwach gets negged by Keysword
Nope, good talk man. I'm gonna go see more about dimensional tieringWell...
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Bleach and Dragon Ball fans should not be allowed to interact with each other
For real its like when One Piece & Naruto fans interact with eachotherBleach and Dragon Ball fans should not be allowed to interact with each other
Mustache FRA (if it was mustacheman vs composite db then there might be the possibility of having a debate)
Me, I guess:Bleach and Dragon Ball fans should not be allowed to interact with each other
that's because most hate Bleach fanboys, on Facebook the most hated fanbase of all, most of them just say nonsense things, like Aizen being 5D and suchBleach and Dragon Ball fans should not be allowed to interact with each other
Except for that yhwach, while being 3-d was able to absorb 4-d hax, the almighty is 4-d either way, and his almighty is what grants him his powernull.Dormant Keysword still has 4-D powernull
4-D is infinitely greater than 3-D
Attaching the word CONCEPT to a 3-D Hax doesnt make it a percent better than a 4-D hax cause a 4-D hax operates at an infinitely higher level
Which 4-D Hax did Yhwach absorb exactly? Please name itwhile being 3-d was able to absorb 4-d hax
Fate Hax is 4-D but the beings Goku can summon either have Acausal 4 or Resist 4-D Fate Hax anyways so Moot. Plus Yhwach Powernull is tied to Fate Hax. If Fate Hax doesn’t occur/ is resisted that Powernull which is a Sub Effect of Fate Hax doesn’t occur either. And even then many characters still resist 4-D Powernull as wellthe almighty is 4-d either way, and his almighty is what grants him his powernull
It’s an argument because Yhwachs Fate Hax can’t do to them and the summons can go to town on him with him being able to do little to nothing to stop them. And winning via summons is allowed hereWhat does summoning beings that are acasual, or resist fate hax have to do with goku? summoning doesn't make him acasual, or resistant to fate hax, don't see how that's an argument.
Soul Crush for all its layers and what not is still a 3-D Hax. Even if I were to give Yhwach the benefit of saying it’s a 4-D Hax, Goku already resists 4-D Energy/Dark Magic Soul Hax. Even if I were to still give Yhwach the benefit of saying his Soul Hax was Layered 4-D, Goku still has the Keysword which still ends up Powernull soul crush or can just IT outta range. Since Goku already has decent soul resistant Soul Crush won’t insta-vape him and all Goku needs is a split second to use IT, get out of Yhwach range and then summon. And this is assuming Keysword doesn’t just Powernull it all together. This is even more so assuming the Soul Crush is even 4-D.Does goku even have layered soul resistance?
If not yhwach passively disintegrates him
Yhwach absorbed the soul king, who pretty much had an upgraded version of the almighty, and was able to resist yhwach's almighty / precog. After absorbing the soul king, yhwach gained another pupil in the Almighty.Which 4-D Hax did Yhwach absorb exactly? Please name it
Fate Hax is 4-D but the beings Goku can summon either have Acausal 4 or Resist 4-D Fate Hax anyways so Moot. Plus Yhwach Powernull is tied to Fate Hax. If Fate Hax doesn’t occur/ is resisted that Powernull which is a Sub Effect of Fate Hax doesn’t occur either. And even then many characters still resist 4-D Powernull as well
It’s an argument because Yhwachs Fate Hax can’t do to them and the summons can go to town on him with him being able to do little to nothing to stop them. And winning via summons is allowed here
Soul Crush for all its layers and what not is still a 3-D Hax. Even if I were to give Yhwach the benefit of saying it’s a 4-D Hax, Goku already resists 4-D Energy/Dark Magic Soul Hax. Even if I were to still give Yhwach the benefit of saying his Soul Hax was Layered 4-D, Goku still has the Keysword which still ends up Powernull soul crush or can just IT outta range. Since Goku already has decent soul resistant Soul Crush won’t insta-vape him and all Goku needs is a split second to use IT, get out of Yhwach range and then summon. And this is assuming Keysword doesn’t just Powernull it all together. This is even more so assuming the Soul Crush is even 4-D.
What stopping Ywhach from getting sealed the same way Mechikabura didDoes goku resist 4-d power absorption btw?
Not ready for deployment yethow about Seint Seiya character
Correction. He absorbed a VASTLY depowered Soul King who going by the profile did not even have the almighty. Also Depowered Soul King doesn’t have resistance to Yhwachs Precog….. that was specifically the Mihigami. And even if he did that only proves resistance to 4-D Fate Hax not that the Soul King specifically had 4-D AP or Hax himselfYhwach absorbed the soul king, who pretty much had an upgraded version of the almighty, and was able to resist yhwach's almighty / precog. After absorbing the soul king, yhwach gained another pupil in the Almighty.
He doesn’t but nothing stops the summons from fighting Yhwachyeah, the beings goku summons have those resistances, you're right, but that doesn't mean that goku has them though?
SO abilities that Yhwach would not resort to regularly but I’ll ignore that for nowCan those summons get past layered intangibility, NEP, HGR
Soul crush could have infinite layers lolz. A 3-D Hax ain’t getting pass a 4-D resistance. Worse the Keysword is still there to Powernull the Soul Crush anyways, passive layered soul crush
Unless Yhwach absorbed a 4-D being or a 4-D structure then his Absorption is 3-D. People like Mechi who can absorb literal timelines THAT is a 4-D absorption.4-d power absorption
YeahSoul resistance doesn't work that way afaik with the changes that were made a while ago. there is no such thing as 2-A soul hax, it's counted as the range now.
Soul resistance works with layers now.
Why must you be like thatArale plot hax gg
Deploy your troops GeneralNot ready for deployment yet
Don't know if it helps, but Time Power users have possibly Nonexistent (Nature Type 1) Erasure, so someone like True Form Tokitoki or Chronoa could maybe do something.NEP No: Not sure how NEP would be useful to Yhwach anyways since if he did erase himself from perception and memory, Goku would still detect him once he becomes existent again. Yhwach can’t fight (he can act thou) in a Nonexistent state. Once he becomes existent thou Goku can pick up on him easy and Goku can also sense intent so Goku would know he is bad news. Point being NEP ain’t doing Yhwach any favors except looking for a incon by remaining Nonexistent the entire fight which he would not even do cause NEP is 1/10 chance something he’d resort to
Yeah they canDon't know if it helps, but Time Power users have possibly Nonexistent (Nature Type 1) Erasure, so someone like True Form Tokitoki or Chronoa could maybe do something.
Mate, did you see the eyes of the soul king? do you even know what you're talking about?Correction. He absorbed a VASTLY depowered Soul King who going by the profile did not even have the almighty. Also Depowered Soul King doesn’t have resistance to Yhwachs Precog….. that was specifically the Mihigami. And even if he did that only proves resistance to 4-D Fate Hax not that the Soul King specifically had 4-D AP or Hax himself
Point being
Yhwach absorbing the Soul king (Depowered) did not give him 4-D Hax nor did the Soul king at that time possess 4-D Hax except Cosmic Awareness
He doesn’t but nothing stops the summons from fighting Yhwach
SO abilities that Yhwach would not resort to regularly but I’ll ignore that for now
Intangibility Yes: Ki can interact with Abstract Beings (NOT CONCEPTUAL ABSTRACTS for those who might be raising eyebrows). No amount of Intangibility is gonna put Yhwach on the level of an Abstarct Being
NEP No: Not sure how NEP would be useful to Yhwach anyways since if he did erase himself from perception and memory, Goku would still detect him once he becomes existent again. Yhwach can’t fight (he can act thou) in a Nonexistent state. Once he becomes existent thou Goku can pick up on him easy and Goku can also sense intent so Goku would know he is bad news. Point being NEP ain’t doing Yhwach any favors except looking for a incon by remaining Nonexistent the entire fight which he would not even do cause NEP is 1/10 chance something he’d resort to
HGR Yes: Sealing still works lol. HGR doesn’t stop sealing his ass away
Soul crush could have infinite layers lolz. A 3-D Hax ain’t getting pass a 4-D resistance. Worse the Keysword is still there to Powernull the Soul Crush anyways
Unless Yhwach absorbed a 4-D being or a 4-D structure then his Absorption is 3-D. People like Mechi who can absorb literal timelines THAT is a 4-D absorption.
Yeah
And guess what?
3-D soul Hax with infinite layers < Baseline 4-D Soul Resistance
And even then Soul Hax still gets 4-D powernulled
Yhwach has NEP nature type 1 and 3, and Aspect type 1,3 and 4, so yeah that's not enough.Don't know if it helps, but Time Power users have possibly Nonexistent (Nature Type 1) Erasure, so someone like True Form Tokitoki or Chronoa could maybe do something.
This has been debated to hell and back before on Bleach threads before and no he doesn’t have almighty. If he did it would be on his profile that Depowered Soul King has Almighty. And it’s against the rules powers not the profile so if you wanna argue Depowered Soul King has Almighty then make a CTR and applying it before using it as a valid argumentMate, did you see the eyes of the soul king? do you even know what you're talking about?
Yhwach literally stated that the soul king had already foreseen all the events that were happening, a million years before they happened, which obviously indicates the almighty,
Yeah cause Yhwach is weak. The Soul kings Powernull expresses that he can only Null beings vastly weaker than himself. How would Yhwach use that to his advantage against Goku?It doesn't matter that he was depowered, the fact that he was able to neg yhwach's almighty and precog says enough.
Really now? Not after the 999 prophecy…. Only after absorbing the soul king?Yhwach gained his 4-d almighty after he absorbed the soul king.
Hence why he is 4-A, possibly 3-A to Low 2-C not indefinitely Low 2-CThe same soul king who was passively holding the entire verse together with its presence.
Lack of feats he can use Hax while nonexistent plus no slight indication he could do soYhwach has thought based hax, so how exactly would he not be able to fight with his NEP exactly?
No he doesn’tSealing works sure, if yhwach doesn't resist it with the almighty.
TT merges with Goku and gives him 4-D Fate Hax resistance plus TPwhich goku wouldn't be able to do either way, only his summons can.
IZ GGAnd ki can only interact with ghosts, which are intangible, but not on the same level as bleach. you'd have to prove that they're on the same level. as in bleach, you have souls not being able to interact with souls, who can't interact with yet again another soul. I'd like to see proof of Ki being able to interact with an AE1 being.
So you not know how dimensional potency works?No, as i said soul resistance doesn't work that way anymore, otherwise yhwach would have 4-d soul hax, from being able to manipulate an infinite amount of souls. It just counts as the range of the soul hax, not the potency, the potency is done through layers.
That’s literally not how it worksAnd like i said, Yhwach absorbed a being with 4-d hax, therefore he has 4-d absorption simple.
He doesn’t like Aspect 5 HistoryYhwach has NEP nature type 1 and 3, and Aspect type 1,3 and 4, so yeah that's not enough.
Goku can summon beings with 4-D Fate Hax and Resistance so good luck
Yeah that works, but Goku can summon Acausal 4 beings so hard counter to Precog.
After his haxed he does Summoning? Won't he have to resist the attacks first before he summons and how often does he do Summoning?Goku also has Keysword with insane levels of 4-D Powernull. Most of Yhwach's Hax are 3-D so the Keysword easily 360 no scopes most of them on arrival. Any Hax the Keysword somehow cant deal with can be dealt with by Summons. Not to mention with Keysword goku can Powernull and/or Seal Yhwach. The only thing that would stop that iis Precog and Fate Hax, both of which can be countered by Summons
With the Keysword… Goku Powernulls 90% of Yhwach Hax due to them being 3-D Hax against a 4-D Powernull.After his haxed he does Summoning? Won't he have to resist the attacks first before he summons and how often does he do Summoning?
Keysword isn't a standard equipment on goku profile.#1 Check Goku's profile
#2 He doesnt need to kill him. Just seal him away with Keysword or have one of his summons seal him and GG
Also, Im surprised if Yhwach could do anything at all with DD affecting him
NLFYhwach can copy all of Goku's summons including Goku himself
OP said Full Power/All Out/ All at their Peak of Performance so that would include KeyswordKeysword isn't a standard equipment on goku profile.
Keysword is No factor here as it's not a standard gear equipment and OP never said Goku has Keysword.