Yhwach Low 5-B Upgrade

[Xulrev]

TataHakai created a new version of the Yhwach Lifting Wandenreich feat wherein we find out Yhwach does lift, bro: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:TataHakai/Bleach:_Yhwach_does_some_heavy_lifting

The end that seems to be agreed-upon is DMUA's 10-second end.

The profiles this would effect would be:

• Yhwach (Soul King Absorbed and Post-Power Absorption keys both go to 5-B)
• Sosuke Aize (EoS key scales to 5-B)
• Ichigo Kurosaki (True Shikai key scales to 5-B, True Bankai key scales to 5-B/likely higher)

Thoughts, input, and discussion are welcome before this gets applied to make sure nothing gets missed.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Its not 5-B, its Low 5-B.

However I agree with this. Looks pretty solid and everyone in the blog has no issues with applying this.

 

[Xulrev]

You are indeed correct Kukui, my apologies on the typo there

 

[Xulrev]

And rectified, thank you very much for pointing it out!

 

[Qawsedf234]

I thought the one planet push in the movie was what was going to be used to scale these characters.

 

[Xulrev]

The planet push from Memories of Nobody is evidence of the same level of feat to argue for consistency from what I understand; until that gets calc'd, we currently have Tata's calc that can be used as an accurate gauge of the God-tiers' strength for now I do believe.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Can some one link this planet push feat, please?

 

[Ovy7]

Can some one link this planet push feat, please?

Here. But from what I've seen in the MoN thread, it's probably for the better if the feat is recalced.

 

[Ovy7]

I also agree with the CRT.

 

[M3X_2.0]

Yeah I will recalc this, maybe today

 

[Ovy7]

Oh, sweet. Good luck then!

 

[1997KD]

If calcs are accepted,then i'm agree with this

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Not only does the feat need to be recalced, but only 1 of them can actually scale to anything im pretty sure.

Matt explained in better detail.

 

[USklaverei]

I also agree with the CRT.

I calculed this out and have 5-A, but it's been a few months.

 

[USklaverei]

On the calculation I pointed out an error, since Yhwach did not raise all the altitude but rather to surface.

 

[Xulrev]

On the calculation I pointed out an error, since Yhwach did not raise all the altitude but rather to surface.

IMade seemed to properly rebut this idea of an error, however. Seireitei has mountains, which would have been replaced by Wandenreich, so utilizing an average altitude for what was affected would be pretty appropriate and accurate.

 

[USklaverei]

So I came up with the idea of using the buildings as a base, but whatever, but I'm sure someone will use that as an argument forward, I'm just trying to prevent that from happening in the future.

 

[Zezu1995]

look i like memories but that will only scale to senna and prime SK.. no one else would get planet tier +

 

[KazuiK]

I did not quite understand why they would only climb to this feat, but I believe that Yhwach should climb, since he absorbed the Soul King that even without his organs was still capable of such a feat.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Not only that but he drained amped versions of the organs and drained Ichigo as well

 

[Zezu1995]

question if juha absorbed all the powers of the quincies ... is it possibly to add their tier to his or it dont work like that?

 

[KazuiK]

I believe that this would not be considered, he absorbed the powers of the 26 Quincys, so he would be 26 times stronger. You mean it?

 

[Zezu1995]

naw i mean like adding their tiers via addition to his current tier

 

[KazuiK]

While this sounds good, they probably will not.

 

[The_mysterious_man]

Last time a Thread like this was Made and they said they will wait for the novel crt because seriously what the point of this if they are going to be higher soon

 

[Xulrev]

This is redoing an already evaluated calc that was wrong. Its significantly different than an entirely new update.

 

[KazuiK]

Was the Last Calculus on Senna not 5-B and not Low 5-B?

 

[Yellaninjaa]

It seems this needs to be recalced

 

[Xulrev]

Why is that?

 

[TataHakai]

Senna's first feat is low 5-B but it wasn't senna doing the feat, she was just a catalyst, so that's further support for 5-B god tiers

the 5-A calc is wrong and needs to be recalced but i don't think there'll be a way to calc it, so i think someone's trying to calc stopping the 3 realms for collapsing which i'm sure will be 5-B again

 

[Xulrev]

Oh that yeah I completely agree with you and IMade that it need recalced

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

I've asked crimson to calc it.

 

[BlackeJan]

Wait don't yall have a 5B calc?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

No calc afaik, just the SK and Mimi holding back at least 3 planets

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

It needs to be calc'd, we just need to know how to do it or someone that does.

 

[TataHakai]

I'll just let it be put on record that the best way to calc holding 3 planets together is to use the 3 GBE's for the realms

Which makes the feat 5-B which is consistent with all the other feats like Yhwach being about to destroy the 3 realms, Yhwach lifting wandenreich etc.

though if someone actually does manage to calc it properly then i'll be fine with it as long as the calc is valid

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

It's more than holding them together as seen when Mimihagi stops them from merging and puts them back in 1 panel.

 

[TataHakai]

Yes and that's worthless in terms of quantification because there's no distance there, meaning speed which you need for KE can't be attained

The feat is done off panel as far as the planets are concerned (we never see them from the outside falling apart), so it's very much unquantifiable

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

I have an idea to calc it using info from the movie as well as manga for a timeframe.

 

[TataHakai]

Are you talking about Memories of nobody? If so i'm not sure how you'll do it but i look forward to it