Xeno vs Xeno... or something (Xeno Goku vs FR Shulk)

[Joycap]

Basically what it says on the tin.

Speed Equalised
FR Shulk explicitly used
Allowing all Xeno Goku forms (duh?)

Shulk: 1 ( @Ottavio_Merluzzo, )

Goku: 0

Abstain: 1

(I know absolutely nothing about Dragon Ball, so that abstain is me right off the bat)

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Haxed 1-C vs Barely haxed Low 1-C?

 

[Joycap]

Probably. I didn't think 'half a rank' was that big of a distinction

Is Goku that low on hax?

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Probably. I didn't think 'half a rank' was that big of a distinction

It's an uncountably infinite difference.

 

[Joycap]

I mean in the context of T2-C+, you're actually right.

Just checking if there's anything else

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Goku's got no hax that could possibly win this fight for him. And Shulk does. So this is a stomp.

 

[RoninSlayer200]

Whats stopping shulk from one tapping xeno goku

 

[Joycap]

Whats stopping shulk from one tapping xeno goku

How liberal is Goku with time travel/BFR?

 

[Robo432343]

A 1-C vs Low 1-C
i wonder whose gonna win

 

[ChoursDropoff]

Isn’t Shulk 6D? Xeno Goku is only 5D and haxless here.

He doesn’t even have the Keysword

 

[Robo432343]

make speed unequal

 

[Joycap]

Isn’t Shulk 6D? Xeno Goku is only 5D and haxless here.

He doesn’t even have the Keysword

Odd. I could have sworn I gave Goku access to that

 

[Joycap]

make speed unequal

Not sure how much that'd help. Endless now makes Shulk Infinite speed by our standards.

 

[Robo432343]

Not sure how much that'd help. Endless now makes Shulk Infinite speed by our standards.

goku is immeasurable speed
shulk is infinite speed

 

[Joycap]

Right. I think the question I'm trying to ask here is which is "faster", an incalculable speed figure, or just straight up ignoring the speed formula

 

[Robo432343]

Right. I think the question I'm trying to ask here is which is "faster", an incalculable speed figure, or just straight up ignoring the speed formula

immeasurable speed>infinite speed

Speed

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[Joycap]

And how much would the result change if I applied that here?

 

[Robo432343]

And how much would the result change if I applied that here?

it would at least stop some of the bleeding for goku seeing how much of a stomp this is for shulk

 

[Joycap]

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Unequal speed makes Xeno see Shulk in stopped time but he can't hurt him due to his higher dimensionality. This is a mismatch

 

[Joycap]

Likely. Lemme see if @JoshSSJGod / @CloverDragon03 or others from the XC3 thread have much else to say

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This is a stomp both AP AND Hax. And Speed unequal makes this a stalemate; it's not a doable match either way. I am going to have to close this. Apologies for inconvenience.