Xeno Goku (DBH) vs Rimuru (Web Novel) / (7-0-0) / [Third Rematch?]

[Phsccarvalho]

Xeno Goku (DBH) VS Rimuru (Web Novel) [Third Rematch?]​

Character	Key (and equipment)
Son Goku (Xeno)​	Ultra God Mission [Super Full Power Saiyan 4 Limit Broken + Keysword]
Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel)​	End of Series

Why did I make this match?

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This match is recreating the previous one.

Apparently this Goku can now interact with type 1 concepts.

So he can probably interact with Rimuru who has AE type 1 (based on concept)

Rules:

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Speed: Is Equalized
Everything else: SBA

Votes:

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Son Goku (Xeno): (7) @AwkguyDB, @TheGreatBanana, @speedster352, @Undylan, @Greatsage13th, @Killerdrone123, @Dragonite007

Rimuru Tempest (Web Novel):

Inconclusive:

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Ok, so, let's start with the usual questions: how many layers does Keysword Power Null have? Can Rimuru resist it?

 

[MrTim]

NEP(nature 1; aspect 2,4), Resistence to CM1, ND(type 1) exists...

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Those Xeno Goku even have any wincons?

 

[Killerdrone123]

NEP(nature 1; aspect 2,4), Resistence to CM1, ND(type 1) exists...

And you know what xeno goku can interact with it now time power has nep nature 1 aspect type 2 erasure and it is layered along with info type 2 and cm type 1

 

[Vietthai96]

And you know what xeno goku can interact with it now time power has nep nature 1 aspect type 2 erasure and it is layered along with info type 2

Wtf, no Time Power didn't have NEP1, it can interact with one, not having one. Seriously are you guys even know DBH at all to debate???

 

[Killerdrone123]

Wtf, no Time Power didn't have NEP1, it can interact with one, not having one. Seriously are you guys even know DBH at all to debate???

I wrote erasure after it

NEP nature 1 aspect type 2 erasure I think i should have added erasure first

 

[Vietthai96]

I wrote erasure after it

Again Time Power have nothing to do with Xeno Goku

 

[Killerdrone123]

Again Time Power have nothing to do with Xeno Goku

Doesn't key sword has time power and he is using it here

 

[Vietthai96]

Doesn't key sword has time power and he is using it here

No, Xeno Goku only have access to Dormant Keysword, Dormant Keysword don't have Time Power, only Awakened one have it, and by no mean Xeno Goku has access to the Awakened version, seriously i explain all this on profile

And seriously i want to sleep, but you guys keep spread misinformation

 

[Killerdrone123]

No, Xeno Goku only have access to Dormant Keysword, Dormant Keysword don't have Time Power, only Awakened one have it, and by no mean Xeno Goku has access to the Awakened version, seriously i explain all this on profile

Ok then my bad

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

It doesn't at its Dormnant key, though Xeno Goku can summon Toki Toki and Chronoa, who have it

 

[Vietthai96]

It doesn't at its Dormnant key, though Xeno Goku can summon Toki Toki and Chronoa, who have it

Tokitoki can't use the sword (he don't have hand to use), and Chronoa need to power it up, also Xeno Goku summon is always not his first move

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Tokitoki can't use the sword (he don't have hand to use), and Chronoa need to power it up,

I mean they do have Time Power

 

[Killerdrone123]

So all it comes down to how potent xeno goku power null is

 

[MusicRelaxing]

You know, you can just switch it to Universe Tree CC Goku who has Time Power.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

You know, you can just switch it to Universe Tree CC Goku who has Time Power.

I know, I wanted to do it with Xeno because it's a fight that has happened before.

And I was informed that now Xeno Goku can interact with type 1 conceptual.

Furthermore, he can summon guys with time power.

 

[Omegabronic]

You know, you can just switch it to Universe Tree CC Goku who has Time Power.

how about wait for a debate between both character's supporters first before changing anything?

 

[MusicRelaxing]

I know, I wanted to do it with Xeno because it's a fight that has happened before.

And I was informed that now Xeno Goku can interact with type 1 conceptual.

Furthermore, he can summon guys with time power.

Fair. Even though I think a UTSSJB Goku vs Rimuru would go harder then a Xeno one

how about wait for a debate between both character's supporters first before changing anything?

Aight.

 

[Brogeefrong]

So all it comes down to how potent xeno goku power null is

His powernull without the keysword, is more just buff negation, and with it it has like too many layers

 

[Brogeefrong]

Btw for last match why was it incon? I see speed is unequal, and did it have anything to do with that

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Btw for last match why was it incon? I see speed is unequal, and did it have anything to do with that

It was incon because Goku wouldn't be able to interact with Rimuru, but since Goku had immeasurable speed (uneven speed), Rimuru couldn't do anything either.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Xeno Goku couldn't interact with Rimuru since he lacked CM and NPI capable of touching NEP

 

[Brogeefrong]

It was incon because Goku wouldn't be able to interact with Rimuru, but since Goku had immeasurable speed (uneven speed), Rimuru couldn't do anything either.

What could rimuru have done if speed was equal at that time

 

[Phsccarvalho]

What could rimuru have done if speed was equal at that time

I do not remember. But he could definitely do something.

 

[Brogeefrong]

If it was incon before, wouldnt Rimuru likely pull off something before Goku could do the time power stuf

 

[Killerdrone123]

What could rimuru have done if speed was equal at that time

If speed was equal rimuru would have killed goku since xeno goku cant interact with rimuru and rimuru can kill him later on but now he can interact with rimuru.I know rimuru has immortality type 9 but I was told that xeno goku has enough range to deal with it

 

[Vietthai96]

Rimuru type 9 is 2-A range, Xeno Goku has the same range, so he can reach Rimuru. Anyway Dormant Keysword Power Null iirc have like 6 - 7 layers and it now can nullify conceptual abilities. Xeno Goku first move with Keysword is power null and then seal, summoning will be his third move. Idk what Rimuru moves is???

 

[AwkguyDB]

Voting Goku

 

[Killerdrone123]

Can you call rimuru supporters here or atleast post this on there discussion thread

 

[Brogeefrong]

Rimuru type 9 is 2-A range, Xeno Goku has the same range, so he can reach Rimuru. Anyway Dormant Keysword Power Null iirc have like 6 - 7 layers and it now can nullify conceptual abilities. Xeno Goku first move with Keysword is power null and then seal, summoning will be his third move. Idk what Rimuru moves is???

Dormant Keysword cant interact with rimuru tho, cause npi stuf for type 1 nep only the awakened has

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Voting Goku

Calm down, expect to have at least one decent discussion.

I wouldn't want this to become a fra on any side, be it Goku or Rimuru (although that would distort votes)

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Snip

Just to be clear, does Goku have the awakened keysword, or not?

 

[MusicRelaxing]

No, Xeno Goku only have access to Dormant Keysword, Dormant Keysword don't have Time Power, only Awakened one have it, and by no mean Xeno Goku has access to the Awakened version, seriously i explain all this on profile

And seriously i want to sleep, but you guys keep spread misinformation

Just to be clear, does Goku have the awakened keysword, or not?

You know, you can just switch it to Universe Tree CC Goku who has Time Power.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Just to be clear, does Goku have the awakened keysword, or not?

No, he can't even use it.

Keysword: Has access to the Dormant Keysword and all of its abilities and resistance

 

[Omegabronic]

Just to be clear, does Goku have the awakened keysword, or not?

This goku doesn't have access to the awakened one

 

[Brogeefrong]

he can still summon bozos with time powers tho

 

[TheGreatBanana]

What are Rimuru's wincons/starting moves?

 

[Killerdrone123]

he can still summon bozos with time powers tho

That will take time though he has to keep rimuru at bay while they awakened his keysword and summon is not his first move he would lead with powernul

 

[Killerdrone123]

The main question is can rimuru resist xeno goku keysword powernull