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Nice. Can she do that in the face of an instant Kamehameha?C2 of Omegon said:
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Wonder Woman vs Son Goku
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He goes into H2H first and mostly, and doesnt abuse range, so he'll eventually get traped by the lassoMilly Rocking Bandit said:
The lasso supposedly have infinite length so trying to dodge that might be uh
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Again, analytical prediction. I'll say it as many times as I need to. Also, I'm not sure how we quantify infinite length. Since lol, Hazama and D have weapons with infinite length. Even so, Goku has afterimages and teleportation so again, good luck with that.Oblivion Of The Endless said:
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No, if anything being H2H all the time diminish the chance of that, WW always used her lasso for mid rang, rarely for long range and even more rarely in H2H, her trying to even start throwing it while in H2H would leave her wide open for an heavy attack or even a killing blow.Oblivion Of The Endless said:
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Why do people think she's just going to stay stationary and not move and respond with what Goku does?Nitro90 said:
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The fact that we're arguing this means she isn't standing still though??C2 of Omegon said:
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Because Goku's attacks are homing so she'll have to block them with her bracelets at some point and IT kinda make moving around a moot point to avoid his attacks.C2 of Omegon said:
It's not arguing she'll stand still as much as saying it's basicaly sure she'll have to block stuff with her bracelets.
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I think people are overrating Goku's analytical prediction. Goku just predicted where he would go and reacted before Hit could hit him. Martial artists can do this based on body movements. But it isn't infallible. It isn't something Goku uses a lot anyway and pretty much exclusively used it for Hit.
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Range is literally non-factor here.
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Hit was quite literally moving forward in time, so that's moot. Secondly I'm not sure how he doesn't use it, it's not like it's an active ability.EmperorRorepme said:
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For you, sure. Everyone else? No.EmperorRorepme said:
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I'm voting Goku fra
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Goku has the edge when it comes to dodging thanks for analytical prediction, and has the edge when it comes to landing attacks thanks to IT. IT also makes escaping any situation much much easier. So Goku's chances of surprising her with an IT Kamehameha or dodging most of her attacks are quite high imo.
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Emperor is completely right. It's being hyped up to high heavens even though Goku still lost the fight where he's being hyped up to predict time. Not to mention the...countless times the dude's been tagged despite this borderline precognition.
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Wow! Amazing
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12-5-0.
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Also is Diana's atom splitting sword being neglected here or...
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Milly, explain how range is a factor.
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Analytical prediction says hi.
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That's Post-Flashpoint. This is Post-Crisis.The real cal howard said:
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The fact that Goku isn't against using it?EmperorRorepme said:
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Analytical Prediction is being wanked to high heavens here lol
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Lol, okay?? You do know that's half Goku Black, someone who should have the same abilities as him right?Adem Warlock69 said:Great
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Diana's stamina is better because after fighting Hit for a a short period in Super Sayain he started to tire. This means Goku cannot use prediction for long. So even in the case that Goku just "precog ggs" Diana, she can just endure the beating until Goku tires out from analytical prediction and beat him.
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Yea it doesn't negate speed advantage or the opponent having similar skill lvl or higher.The real cal howard said:
Jiren? Better in every way. Goku Black/Fused Zamasu? Literally using Goku's own body and moveset against him lol. Beerus/Whis? Better in every way as well. Hit? Himself evolved during the battle.
Context matters.
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Analytical Prediction was litteraly made into what changed a stomp in Hit's favor into a fair Match Goku gave up instead of losing due to GoD intervention and the same was done all the way back to Dragon Ball, reactive power level and analytical prediction are very much portrayed as a big deal when close in skill and / or power.Oblivion Of The Endless said:
I mean trying to imply it's useless in such a situation when the final fight of a whole arc just scream it make all the difference in such a situation is frankly a weird argument.
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The Goku who fought Hit=/=The Goku we're using now.EmperorRorepme said:
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So is there any proof his stamina got better? Or the time he can use analytical prediction? Because after this Goku just powers up and Hit's time hax doesn't work against stronger opponents so he didn't use it.
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Piccolo Jr. Raditz. Vegeta. Frieza. Majin Buu. Many many many times in the tournament of power. Heck, Jiren tagged him in Ultra Instinct, the form made for dodging, and Goku had at worst a slight stat disadvantage then. Yet instinctive reaction on top of analytical prediction still allowed him to be tagged.
Goku Black having his body means nothing in this context. Analytical Prediction isn't based on the body but the mind. Zamasu doesn't have Goku's mind.
Goku Black having his body means nothing in this context. Analytical Prediction isn't based on the body but the mind. Zamasu doesn't have Goku's mind.
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The fact that Goku isn't against using it?
When has Goku abused range? In every manga fight I've read he prefers hand to hand before anything else.
When has Goku abused range? In every manga fight I've read he prefers hand to hand before anything else.
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Yes, the fact that he's going back to back with even stronger opponents. It's not like Goku's stamina was inferior to begin with, he endured super poison for 9 hours straight as a child with no sleep, and then immediately fought someone comparable to him afterwards.EmperorRorepme said:
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Either way Diana could just do the same thing. As people have mentioned before she is so skilled she closes strength and speed gaps.
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They litteraly say they fixed the issue, same for SSJB's issue IIRC.EmperorRorepme said:
Toyotaro pretty much re-introduced the stamina issue that was corrected in the Cell arc and almost immediatly course corrected.
Also Goku wasn't tired from analytical prediction, he was tired from fighting Hit, analytical prediction is something Goku constantly does, it's not an additional strain on his stamina.
Also Manga Goku litteraly has a feat of non-stop training for Spirit control on Yardrat for like 150 days.
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Gogeta has all of Goku's moveset. So Fused Zamasu should have all of Goku Black's abilities and skills as well.The real cal howard said:
And why are you mentioning DBZ enemies? This is super Goku. He's evolved a lot as a martial artist since he faced any of these opponents.
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