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Why is DBGT scaled above Multi Galaxy?

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Super Android 17 is Multi Galaxy+ after he absorbs the 10× Kamehameha. But i fail to understand how that's enough evidence to conclude Multi Galaxy+.

I have the same issue with Syn and Omega shenron. They just randomly hecome Universal, without any concrete evidence.

Taking Elder Kai's statement to be a Universal evidence is pretty bad, especially when everyone questions 1 shot for other statements like that.

The Universe was going to corrode and destroy itself because ofbthe fact he emits negative energy which NATRUALLY decays things. Its like how god Ki naturally cant be sensed by mortals. Its just a property.
 
You can ask DarkDragonMedeus, and the other staff members listed in the above verse pages, to comment here.
 
It's mentioned on Syn Shenron's profile that Omega's final attack would nuke the entire universe. And we have calculated Dragon Ball's universe to be larger than the observable universe. Combined with the fact that one-shotting the universe from the edge of the universe inherently makes the feat multitudes more impressive. Earth and the milky way galaxy are both located at the edge of the universe based on the official cosmology of Dragon Ball; which has remained consistent with both canon and non-canon versions of Dragon Ball.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
It's mentioned on Syn Shenron's profile that Omega's final attack would nuke the entire universe. And we have calculated Dragon Ball's universe to be larger than the observable universe. Combined with the fact that one-shotting the universe from the edge of the universe inherently makes the feat multitudes more impressive. Earth and the milky way galaxy are both located at the edge of the universe based on the official cosmology of Dragon Ball; which has remained consistent with both canon and non-canon versions of Dragon Ball.
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Yeah, but why are we assuming hes going to one shot the Universe. He just said he'd destroy the entire Universe, which can be overtime.
 
It outright states enough energy to destroy the universe concentrated in a single blast; implying it's a Universal Big Bang like attack. The speed of the blast could be up for debate, but the bottom line is that it still casually one-shots the universe which is 3-A however it's looked at.
 
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It outright states enough energy to destroy the universe concentrated in a single blast; implying it's a Universal Big Bang like attack.
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I see. I managed to find the thread of Wing god archon or something explaining this.

However I'm still confused on Multi Galaxy + Super android 17
 
I believe that comes from some awkward mid scaling; I don't mind if that needs to be changed but it appears that was decided here
 
@Medeus

Do you have suggestions for how to adjust inappropriately scaled characters?
 
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I believe that comes from some awkward mid scaling; I don't mind if that needs to be changed but it appears that was decided here
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The arguements in that post are all about backward scaling.

Backward scaling doesnt work in Dragonball because of the inconsistency between power levels and attack potency.

Still don't see why Super android 17 is 3B+. They didnt know who was stronger between Syn and Super 17 and decided to give Super 17 the benefit of the doubt.
 
I didn't have any input on the Multi-Galaxy scaling; you'd need to consult Dark for that one. As for the Universal Omega scaling, it's been explained above.
 
Yeah, I don't mind Super 17 being downgraded to At least 3-B with no "+" sign. Same with the Dragon Fist. AKM Sama is also knowledgeable on the topic, so you could ask him.
 
Omega being Universal has been cleared up.

Now its more so of why other Charecters are scaled to Multi Galaxy+ like Super 17, Syn and others.
 
Well, Medeus apparently accepted a downgrade.
 
@Medeus & Kepekley

Are either of you willing to handle these revisions?
 
Wouldn't it make more sense for backscaling from a few times above baseline 3-A to be closer to the above midway through 3-B aka 3-B+ rather than them eclipsing from 3-B to over the entire 3-B+ and straight into 3-A? Legit question
 
I said I was fine with 17's justification, and didn't really say anything regarding Syn Shenron about agreeing with a downgrade. Omega was stated to be 10x stronger, but even if Syn was 40x weaker, he'd still be 3-A as explained above.

But as I said, I prefer to here AKM Sama and/or Dark649's thoughts before doing anything. I know the latter has been inactive and that they were both contacted via message walls. So I suppose we can wait just a little longer or bump the given messages.
 
Wait...I was not contacted about this thread.

Anyway, I don't know where the + sign came from. We only use that when there is a calc with results in the upper half of a tier.
 
Oh, you weren't? I thought the OP said he did, but I guess he contacted the wrong person.
 
I trust your judgements to properly revise the statistics.
 
I know, imo destroying an entire universe and beyond should be low 2-C, even overtime (3D level power could never destroy spacetime over time).
 
There's only context that Omega was going to destroy all physical matter with the big explosion; not all of space-time. There's like 5 different definitions of universe in Japanese, and Dragon Ball was specifically referring to the Cosmos. He wasn't causing the Space-Time fabric to collapse, it was just a big explosion. Anyway, I agree with AKM Sama that the 3-B+ does need to go.
 
@Medeus

Feel free to adjust the relevant profiles accordingly then.
 
Yes. Thanks. Should we close this thread then?
 
Actually, that's false. The physical matter was never mentioned, instead it was "entire universe". Unless you are arguing Dragon Ball's universes are 3-Dimensional, but that's up to the CRT. @AKM sama
 
Apologies,if I contacted the wrong person.

But just to be clear, are we all in agreement that Omega is 3A and everyone else bellow is just 3B, not 3B+.

If thats the case then this thread can be closed

Edit: Syn Shenron being 3A still bugs me. Omega shenron 3A is fine, but I don't agree with Dragonball Back scaling.

Its like if we back scaled charecters from 4D in DB, every charecter would be 4D.

We also know the measure of strength in DB is not Attack potency, but Battle power. Battle power increases are not linear, so we shouldn't back scale in linear fashion either.
 
It seems like the profiles have been adjusted accordingly, yes.
 
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