Why is DBGT scaled above Multi Galaxy?

[Antvasima]

Aha. Would either of you be willing to handle it Medeus and AKM?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It was discussed above that Omega was stated to be 10x stronger than Syn; which was also agreed that simply being 10-40x weaker would still make base Syn 3-A. Though, willing to hear from AKM again just in case.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks. That seems fine then.

 

[AKM sama]

Yeah it was brought up in another previous thread. Syn being 10 times weaker would still put him at universe level.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Can you clarify this better in the profile please? A footnote is fine to use.

 

[Torrus_Silvèr]

Yeah it was brought up in another previous thread. Syn being 10 times weaker would still put him at universe level.

Even using the 10× statement, Omega charged up this attack. Theres nothing to suggest that this is his normal AP. So it shouldn't back scale to Syn.

I clarified anove that this is Dragonball. You should obide by the fictions scaling. The 10× Greater statement would be a reference to Power level, not attack potency.

Saying Omega is 40× 3A then dividing it by 10 to get Syn as 4 × 3A within the fiction isn't correct.

In Dragonball an Increase of 10× a Power level is enough to increase their attack potency many fold above 10×.

Therefore the reverse should also be true.

Syn is being highballed with no evidence to support it.

 

[AKM sama]

Power levels stopped being a thing after Freeza saga and no, unless it is explicitly mentioned that a character's battle power is X times higher/lower, we don't assume as such. A general statement about being X times stronger or faster is interpreted generally. Even kaioken is said to explicitly multiply strength, speed, etc and not battle power.

Though after looking into it, I think there's something that went unnoticed. The 40x comes from including the space between the main globe and the kaioshin realm as well. While that would be accurate if it were destroyed by an all encompassing omnidirectional blast which would have destroyed everything up to that point, it's not accurate for an energy that was meant to gradually destroy all matter in the universe without any omnidirectional blast.

In that case, Omega Shenron only talked about energy capable of destroying the main globe (8x regular universe) + kaioshin realm (0.1x main globe) = 8.8x regular universe. According to this, Syn would be at least 3-B.

 

[Torrus_Silvèr]

Kaioken does multiply Battle Power. Its just ignored here. Its explicitly stated that the Ki in his body is amplified and as a result, his speed and power increase. We have guidebooks that make this explicit, but if we are going to ignore them then thats up to you.

Strength/power has always been synonymous with Battle power if you read into the guides.

Seems I forgot guides are not used here.

Using the globe at all for distance scaling when Snake way is that large is pretty iffy in the first place.

 

[Antvasima]

AKM seems to make sense to me.

 

[KingPin0422]

I thought Dragon Ball's universes were calculated to be ~250x the size of the observable universe?

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Can you clarify this better in the profile please? A footnote is fine to use.

Anyway, about this...

 

[AKM sama]

I made another thread about the issue brought up here because this was outdated. That thread seems to be almost concluded. Therfore, I'll close this one.