Why are platonic concepts, transfinite mathematics, and jungian archetypes faulty when it comes to outer scaling?

[TylerOfChaosYT]

I'm genuinely curious, as I come across a lot of people who use it to get beings like Solaris from Sonic 06 to outer, and then immediately get countered by a person saying it's stupid or faulty to use. And personally, I agree. Most people wanna use them when they start losing a debate.

 

[Guardian_Doge]

Yeah, people primarily call the sonic ones stupid because they are! But, for the most part it usually defaults to a portrayal the work uses in itself, that's how consistency works (i.e we don't just assume ALL properties apply because of well, a lack of them). However, there's also the dumb dumbs of the powerscaling community, that make just outright awful arguments in attempt to disregard the original interpretation of these ideas (For example, People call archetypes or platonic concepts "subjective" to say they don't actually scale anywhere, which is bogus). So it's a combination of disingenuity and idiocy.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Here are threads (since this is not the first time); I recommend reading them

• https://vsbattles.com/threads/question-regarding-platonic-concepts.153117/
• https://vsbattles.com/threads/addressing-1-a-concepts.142654/
• https://vsbattles.com/threads/rimuru-transcending-platonic-concepts.128091/
• https://vsbattles.com/threads/platonic-concepts-issues.23752/
• https://vsbattles.com/threads/are-platonic-ideal-concepts-1-a.104717/

 

[TylerOfChaosYT]

I'm genuinely curious, as I come across a lot of people who use it to get beings like Solaris from Sonic 06 to outer, and then immediately get countered by a person saying it's stupid or faulty to use. And personally, I agree. Most people wanna use them when they start losing a debate.

Here are threads (since this is not the first time); I recommend reading them

• https://vsbattles.com/threads/question-regarding-platonic-concepts.153117/
• https://vsbattles.com/threads/addressing-1-a-concepts.142654/
• https://vsbattles.com/threads/rimuru-transcending-platonic-concepts.128091/
• https://vsbattles.com/threads/platonic-concepts-issues.23752/
• https://vsbattles.com/threads/are-platonic-ideal-concepts-1-a.104717/

Thanks