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First of all at some point in researching Sonic I realized that the concepts of space and dimensions is implied to exist in the Sonic Verse because characters can think spatially.
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What is Spatial Thinking and what does it allow? (or imply?)
“Spatial thinking allows you to understand the location and dimension of objects, and how different objects are related. It also allows you to visualize and manipulate objects and shapes in your head.” - https://kids.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frym.2020.00050#:~:text=Spatial thinking allows you to,and shapes in your head.
“Spatial thinking is defined as the knowledge, skills, and habits of mind to use concepts of space, tools of representation like maps and graphs, and processes of reasoning to organize and solve problems (Downs and de Souza 2005).” - https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/...es/maps-and-spatial-thinking-skills-classroom
“Spatial thinking is thinking that finds meaning in the shape, size, orientation, location, direction or trajectory, of objects, processes or phenomena, or the relative positions in space of multiple objects, processes or phenomena. Spatial thinking uses the properties of space as a vehicle for structuring problems, for finding answers, and for expressing solutions (National Research Council, 2006).” - https://serc.carleton.edu/research_on_learning/synthesis/spatial.html.
“the committee defines spatial thinking as a constructive amalgam of three elements: concepts of space, tools of representation, and processes of reasoning. Space provides the conceptual and analytical framework within which data can be integrated, related, and structured into a whole. Representations—either internal and cognitive or external and graphic, linguistic, physical, and so forth—provide the forms within which structured information can be stored, analyzed, comprehended, and communicated to others. Reasoning processes provide the means of manipulating, interpreting, and explaining the structured information.” - https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/11019/chapter/4
This proves that 1. The Concepts of Dimensions and Size exists in the verse and 2. Space is a thing of multiple concepts in the Sonic Verse. It can basically have any number of dimensions in the verse based on how it works.
Sonic’s SpaceTime is composed of Continuous Time
CD알라딘보이니까 가능한 방대한 라운드 속을 소닉이 초광속으로 달려간다!
연속된 시간의 단편단편이 이어지는 시공간의 세계-
말로는 표현하기 어려운 신비의 세계를 직접 체험해 보시기 바랍니다!
CD Aladdin Boy, so Sonic runs at ultra-light speed through the vast rounds as possible!
The world of space-time, followed by fragments of continuous time-
Experience the mysterious world that is difficult to express!
https://comandgame.tistory.com/m/71
Continuous Time has infinite points within time, is bare minimum infinite dimensional, functions on every interval on the Real Line (in other words n-dimensional at least), and is Infinite in addition time is viewed as a continuous variable.
Basic Definitions. A continuous-time (CT) signal is a function, s(t), that is defined for all time t contained in some interval on the real line. - https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/continuous-time-signal#:~:text=Basic Definitions,are often called analog signals.
A continuous-time signal has values for all points in time in some (possibly infinite) interval. - https://www.princeton.edu/~cuff/ele301/files/lecture1_2.pdf
continuous time systems which contains the main examples and to which the basic finite dimensional systems facts extend in a reasonable fashion - https://mathweb.ucsd.edu/~helton/BILLSPAPERSscanned/H76b.pdf
theory of linear operators on infinite dimensional vector spaces as they occur in ... pendent of time, is composed of the mutually exclusive and constant. - https://people.math.osu.edu/gerlach.1/math/BVtypset
approximating infinite-dimensional systems with finite-dimensionalones has been ad- ... continuous-time infinite-dimensional system T(s). - https://corescholar.libraries.wright.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1002&context=ee
continuous-time LQR problem ... continuous-time system ˙x = Ax + Bu, x(0) = x0 ... ...an infinite-dimensional problem: (trajectory u : [0,T] → R. - https://stanford.edu/class/ee363/lectures/clqr.pdf
Suppose that a static-state feedback stabilizes a continuous-time linear infinite-dimensional control system. - https://math.unl.edu/~rrebarber1/S0002-9947-03-03142-8.pdf
introduce an L2(0, 1)–infinite dimensional torus T. For a class of ... two solutions differ by an integer, that property is preserved over time. - https://www.math.ucla.edu/~wgangbo/publications/VlasovMay11.pdf
fixed endpoints for some classes of linear infinite dimensional (discrete-time and continuous- time) control systems is considered - https://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/57430/1/MPRA_paper_57430.pdf
Continuous time views variables as having a particular value only for an infinitesimally short amount of time. Between any two points in time there are an infinite number of other points in time. The variable "time" ranges over the entire real number line, or depending on the context, over some subset of it such as the non-negative reals. Thus time is viewed as a continuous variable.
In contrast, continuous time views variables as having a particular value only for an infinitesimally short amount of time. Between any two points in time there are an infinite number of other points in time. The variable "time" ranges over the entire real number line, or depending on the context, over some subset of it such as the non-negative reals. Thus time is viewed as a continuous variable.
A continuous signal or a continuous-time signal is a varying quantity (a signal) whose domain, which is often time, is a continuum (e.g., a connected interval of the reals). That is, the function's domain is an uncountable set. The function itself need not to be continuous. To contrast, a discrete-time signal has a countable domain, like the natural numbers. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrete_time_and_continuous_time
A continuous variable is a variable that can take on infinitely many, uncountable values - https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/continuous-variable
Continuous time is a part of the SpaceTimes in Sonic keep this in mind
So bare minimum Time is Multiverse+-Low Outerverse and up in Sonic and the concepts of dimensions, space and time exist in Sonic (which will be important later on).
But let’s just pretend we didn’t see those things right?
Well
At 17:47 of Ian Flynn, the lore manager of Sonic The Hedgehog interprets Sonic Boom as being an alternate reality in the Game Sonic multiverse. And at 44:32 of Ian Flynn; the lore manager of Sonic The Hedgehog implies what he means by Sonic Boom being a Separate Canon is that it’s a different branch of the Game Sonic canon/universe.
(Note: Eitaro Toyoda liked my tweet proposing the different worlds of Sonic Media are connected
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https://twitter.com/tylerreneem/status/1608206553034772481?s=46&t=rdiTz-Y6DKqANDQOAFHNDw
^ I said
アートがとても素敵です。 飯塚隆は、ソ ニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグに関連するすべ てのメディアをひとつの大きなものにした いと聞いていますが、それは、たとえまっ たく異なる世界であっても、何らかの形で つながっていると感じられるようにするた めで、私としてはとても興味深いアイデアです。
Which means
The art is very nice. I have heard that Takashi Iizuka wants to make all the media related to Sonic the Hedgehog into one big thing, which is an interesting idea to me, to make even totally different worlds feel connected in some way.
And Ian Flynn said Sonic Media canon is inclusive: from https://youtu.be/L8D23AM3CDI. )
Sonic Boom is a different branch of the Sonic Canon and Universe https://venturebeat.com/games/dont-...ust-a-different-branch-of-the-sonic-universe/ https://www.gamespot.com/articles/s...-what-has-sega-done-to-knuckles/1100-6417572/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cy3XaFFHBk
I believe Sonic Boom is in the Sonic Encyclospeedia which would support this since the Encyclospeedia is meant to explore the Sonic The Hedgehog Universe.
Sonic Boom being stated to be a new branch of the Sonic Mythos/Universe in the Sonic The Hedgehog Encyclospeedia.
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Here’s the proof of the Sonic Encyclospeedia being centered around things in the Sonic The Hedgehog Expanding Universe in its product description
“Dive deep into the extensive lore and exhaustive detail of each game in Sonic's ever-expanding universe--from the beloved SEGA Genesis to the most bleeding-edge video game consoles. This tome leaves no stone unturned, showcasing in-depth looks at the characters, settings, and stories from each exciting installment!” - https://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Hedgehog-Encyclo-speed-ia-Ian-Flynn/dp/1506719279#:~:text=The%20book%20details%20all%20the,it%20is%20easy%20to%20recommend.&text=If%20you’re%20a%20Sonic,you%20everything%20you%20already%20know.
Sonic boom is a parallel universe to the games considered to be the third iteration of Sonic according to the official sonic 25th anniversary artbook even saying that the modern, classic and boom varieties coexist.
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Fun action Fleetway and Archie are stated to be in the same world as the Sonic spin-offs.
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(Source is the Sonic 25th anniversary artbook: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823056393665904651/1061407093837529208/Artbook_by_SEGA.PNG)
Sonic Boom has these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpxnJH_z6pc
https://youtu.be/wQfs4f0MzX0?t=560 Ian Flynn confirmed Boom Tails was talking about The Idea Of The Multiverse Theory In The Episode "Two Good To Be True" aka My Question!
Sonic Boom has String Theory
6:55 hedgehog day is string theory and Super string theory https://youtu.be/FX8oOqFWWlg For mombot, it's at 1:38 https://youtu.be/OKUQnHIojZI
Sonic Boom has different/higher planes of Existence
https://youtube.com/watch?v=S5IX2CsjTVI&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE&t=311
Ian Flynn confirms NiGHTS is part of the Sonic Universe even though he doesn’t like it at 1:13 of https://youtu.be/tbUfomWKc3k
Ian Flynn states "reality" in sonic is not concrete and isn't bound by parameters https://youtu.be/-rJzigYk1rY?t=5543
Ian Flynn states that Solaris can destroy the concept of spacetime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTgA7wsBS3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiST5vYq2zw
Ian Flynn also confirms the Chaos Emeralds grant the power to wreck everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBZYdYf80ZE&t=45s
Did you know that in the Japanese version of Sonic Generations it’s revealed that Time Eater also stole/erased the energy of things he put into the White Space? Sonic Generations: Sonic the restored time and energy of the world https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1042203160346902628/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1042203159512223865/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1042203160032313435/unknown.png
White Space is a realm between Dimensions that holds the universe together
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Sonic Scaling Time Eater
突然現れた謎のバケモノ。不思議な渦を作り出し、ソニックの仲間たちを次元の彼方に飛ばしてしまう。
Which according to DeepL means
A mysterious monster suddenly appears. It creates a mysterious vortex that sends Sonic's friends flying beyond the dimension.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1060408969333592155/IMG_2522.jpg
(Note: Translation might be iffy because others like Romajidesu claims Sonic’s friends were sent across dimensions which might mean White Space exists in every dimension or there’s a White Space in every dimension)
Ian Flynn also confirms that the White Space in Sonic Generations is an Aspatial and Atemporal realm
https://youtu.be/O3bD3fl3y_0
at 1:39:53 of https://youtu.be/TI0Jf3VssnU Ian Flynn said on a question of (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1038506225240911992/IMG_2903.png) that he thinks so and that he thinks MaginaryWorld (despite its ill defined limitations) covers all those basis’.
Basically dreams in Sonic can encompass any size, scope, range and concept and MaginaryWorld contains every single dream.
I asked Shiro Maekawa about whether or not each of the stories in the Arabian Nights were worlds of their own
ゲーム「ソニックと秘密のリング」の中で、千夜一夜物語の各話が独自の世界であることを示すヒントがあります。そう考えていいのでしょうか？
Which means
In the game "Sonic and the Ring of Secrets" there are hints that each story of the Thousand and One Nights is its own world. Is it safe to assume so?
^ So Shiro Maekawa liked my tweet basically confirming that each story in the One Thousand and One Nights book is a world of its own.
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Shiro Maekawa liked my tweet confirming that the Arabian Nights has an endless amount of dreams and worlds.
I asked this
ソニックと秘密のリング』では、『千夜一夜物語』の世界にはいろいろな世界があり、その世界には夢がいっぱいあることが暗示されていますが、それは無限にありうると考えていいのでしょうか。
In "Sonic and the Ring of Secrets," it is implied that there are many different worlds in the world of "One Thousand and One Nights," and that these worlds are full of dreams, but is it safe to assume that there could be an infinite number of them?
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Eitaro Toyoda agrees with the Thought that the Stories in the Arabian Nights are independent worlds. https://twitter.com/onepopdrop/status/1595439907589193729?s=46&t=ezSTZBdi8NDZzNj0yo0Gcg https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1595619969366384641?s=46&t=ezSTZBdi8NDZzNj0yo0Gcg
Ian Flynn believes MaginaryWorld can maybe hold an infinite number of dream-worlds: https://youtu.be/UNSt2BmGqx4?t=934
Eitaro Toyoda states that the teams in Sonic Heroes have infinite possibilities https://twitter.com/TylerreneeM/status/1598184737604263936?s=20&t=DDaXekt6iIeFeQJFx5K-ng https://twitter.com/E_Toyoda39/status/1598869030995365888?s=20&t=DDaXekt6iIeFeQJFx5K-ng
Shiro Maekawa liked my tweet asking whether or not Silver’s timeline is part of an Infinite number of timelines.
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Quantum Mechanics/Level III Parallel Universes (as well as the concepts of parallel universes) might exist in Sonic per Eitaro Toyoda’s answer to my Question saying he would like it to exist and liked my reply to his answer: https://twitter.com/onepopdrop/status/1598201412831219712?s=46&t=pP0skTWKhlUEYtSV4EebGw
Infinite Dimensional Parallel Universes confirmed to exist in Sonic. So while Eitaro Toyoda (who supervises the world setting of sonic the hedgehog) says he can’t mention anything that isn’t explained in the games, there are two interpretations here: he believes there is either an Infinite Number of Parallel Universes with an accompanying Infinite number of Dimensions or while he may not exactly know how many parallel universes exist in Sonic, he believes there are ones accompanied with infinite dimensions in Sonic The Hedgehog but believes “even if there were” (which implies it might be true by definition) they were as good as (meaning nearly but not quite) nonexistent unless observed and we can only hope Sonic will find them implying they’re out there for him to find. https://twitter.com/tylerreneem/status/1596261225536577539?s=46&t=Lmg98FQ8Vdc4whAqLXnU5g and https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1596435194990690304?s=46&t=Lmg98FQ8Vdc4whAqLXnU5g
The question was this
こんにちは。ソニック・ラッシュやソニック・ラッシュ・アドベンチャーでパラレルワールドの概念が出てきたときから、ずっと疑問に思っていたことがあります。ソニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグの世界には、無限の並行宇宙とそれに伴う無限の次元が存在する可能性があると思われますか？
Which means
Hello. I have been wondering something ever since the concept of parallel universes was introduced in Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure. Do you think it is possible that there could be an infinite number of parallel universes and the accompanying infinite number of dimensions in the world of Sonic the Hedgehog?
So this can be taken as possibly High Hyperversal bare minimum or easily High Hyperversal.
Eitaro Toyoda confirms The Concepts of Hyperspaces/Subspaces and Superspaces exist in the World Of Sonic as something known by Sonic and as a consideration not exactly explained in the games https://twitter.com/yutogt12/status/1603295257524723712?s=46&t=X-d9TDg1AZO3Ecji7ZUxjg ^
This was asked
“こんにちは。昔のソニックの資料には、ファング・ザ・スナイパーやフリッキーたちのいる場所など、亜空間たちのことがたくさん書かれていました。ソニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグの世界では、「亜空間たち」と「超空間たち」という概念そのものが本当に存在するのでしょうか？”
Which means
“Hello. In the old Sonic materials, there were many references to hyperspaces, such as the location of Fang the Sniper and Flicky and his friends. In the world of Sonic the Hedgehog, do the concepts of "hyperspaces" and "superspaces" themselves really exist?”
Eitaro Toyoda responded with
“うーん。どうでしょう？私もわからないです。ソニックのまわりには色々な世界があるので、知っていそうではありますが…。まあ、ゲームの中で説明されていないことは考察として楽しみましょう。
”
Which means
“Hmmm. What do you think? I don't know either. There are so many different worlds around Sonic, so it seems like he knows about them.... Well, let's enjoy what is not explained in the game as a consideration.
”
^ One of the definitions/concepts of a Superspace is a space of infinite dimensions:
https://www.google.com/search?q=superspace+definition&newwindow=1&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS974US975&hl=en-US&sxsrf=ALiCzsY7Llp__cybUTzBdlIAuJcUGCpCMQ%3A1671655430007&ei=BXCjY9GCPZzU5NoPgZmzyAE&oq=superspace+definition&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyCQgjECcQRhD5ATIFCAAQhgMyBQgAEIYDMgUIABCGAzIFCAAQogQyBwgAEB4QogQyBwgAEB4QogQyBQgAEKIEOgoIABBHENYEELADOgwIIxCwAhAnEEYQ-QFKBAhBGABQ-RNYhSFg4yRoAnAAeACAAW-IAZ8CkgEDMi4xmAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
So for the question for Bumblekast @BumbleKing Videos Does Sonic have Platonism, Carl Jung archetypes, Neoplatonism and quantum mechanics? Ian Flynn responds with maybe at 41:47 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FIGLrhV8kY
Ian Flynn confirms and agrees with Platonic Abstract Objects like Ideas, Concepts, and Numbers (with Thoughts and etc counting as Platonic Abstract Objects) existing in Sonic at 21:11 of https://youtu.be/xCLxoIOTOY4.
And before you say anything Ian Flynn states he read up on Plato (though at the time he didn't personally think it was applicable to Sonic) https://youtu.be/HjT_IUSejZM?t=1078
So one cannot make the argument that “he doesn’t know what Platonism is” that’s just not true.
Moreover
Shiro Maekawa liked my Tweet about assuming the philosophies of Plato and Aristotle exist in the world of Sonic
This is what I said
ソニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグ」をプレイしていたら、ギリシャの哲学者アリストテレスの話が出てきました。ソニックの世界にもアリストテレスやプラトンの哲学が存在すると考えていいのでしょうか？
I was playing "Sonic the Hedgehog" and came across a reference to the Greek philosopher Aristotle. Is it correct to think that the philosophies of Aristotle and Plato exist in the world of Sonic?
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Eitaro Toyoda confirmed Plato’s Ideas exist in Sonic! https://twitter.com/yasonicboi1/status/1602561448072429571?s=46&t=2QEU5LGFJFVV6AESnCb4_g
Specifically right here https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1602747535621517312?s=46&t=2QEU5LGFJFVV6AESnCb4_g
Note: If it (or in this case: I and Eitaro Toyoda) were referring to ideas in the general sense it (or we) would’ve used this: アイデア or 発想 Or other alternatives (but less common): 理念· 思想· 構想· はつい· 案· 趣向· 考案· そう· いこう· 思い付き· 意向· 想· ねん· いちあん· ちゃくい· りょうけん· 着意· 発意· しそう· 主意· りねん· 趣意· おもいつき· しゅこう· はつあん· 了見· 思いつき· はっそう· 料簡· 落想· アィディア· 匠· 意嚮· いっさく· 想念· イデー· こうあん· かんねん Yet we used “イデア” And Just “イデア” refers to Ideas of the Platonic Kind: https://jisho.org/search/イデア and https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/イデア The question also asked if Ideas exists as abstract objects in the World Of Sonic The Hedgehog. And Platonism is essentially the proposition that Ideas are Abstract Objects and that Abstract Objects exist.
Platonism is the view that there exist such things as abstract objects - https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/platonism/
Platonism is the view that there exist such things as abstract objects — where an abstract object is an object that does not exist in space or time and which is therefore entirely non-physical and non-mental. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonism#:~:text=Platonism%20is%20the%20view%20that,sense%20is%20a%20contemporary%20view.
If you want the translation to what I said then here’s this:
豊田栄太郎さん、こんにちは。ソニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグの世界について質問なのですが、あの世界には数字やイデアのような抽象的なオブジェクトは存在するのでしょうか？あり得ると思います。テイルスとエッグマンは暇なときに数字の概念などをいろいろと勉強するのでしょうか？
Which according to DeepL means
Hello Eitaro Toyoda. I have a question about the world of Sonic the Hedgehog. Are there abstract objects like numbers and ideas in that world? I think there can be. Do Tails and Eggman study various concepts such as numbers in their spare time?
Which Eitaro Toyoda responded with
文化と文明がある以上、文字はありますよ！ソニックも本を色々読んでましたし、ナックルズも（意外と？）古文書を読めたりしますよね。 イデアについては、精神と文化を持つ生物のグループなら持ってる物だと思うので、私は彼らにもあると信じています。 ※イデアと言えば『Nights』を連想しますね！
Which according to DeepL means
As long as there's culture and civilization, there's writing! Sonic read a lot of books, and Knuckles (surprisingly?) read a lot of books too. Knuckles can also (surprisingly?) read ancient texts. As for Ideas, I believe they have it because it is something that any group of creatures with a spirit and culture would have. *Speaking of Ideas, I think of "Nights!"
It’s basically a double confirmation for NiGHTS and Sonic that they have Platonic Ideas. And before you say anything…. Eitaro Toyoda was a writer for a few sonic games and is in charge of managing the world setting according to his twitter profile: https://twitter.com/E_Toyoda39?s=20&t=DDaXekt6iIeFeQJFx5K-ng
Also do note that the NiGHTS Into Dreams series itself has used that Kanji to describe the Ideyas Such as
そのイデアの光がナイトビアという世界を創り出すのじゃ!
The light of that Idea creates the world of Nightbeer! https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1052327809915297922/image.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1052327810418618489/image.png
And
この白い光が... ホワイトイデア...
This white light... White Idea... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1052329151710892132/image.png https://media.discordapp.net/attach...6384/a9e8c351-1d5a-4580-90b0-eb5279910366.png
The Ideyas exist in Sonic as shown in Sonic Pinball party at 10:55 of https://youtu.be/pJ7aKdZkT0M
Shiro Maekawa liked and/or agreed with my tweet asking if the idea of Platonic Worlds existing in the world of Sonic The Hedgehog was correct. And for anyone thinking I’m "capping" on the Platonic Worlds existing in Sonic then put the kanji in Jisho and you’ll find this (last link)
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^ My question says
“前川司郎さん、こんにちは。ソ ニックの世界について質問です。 ソニック の世界には、たくさんの異世界、夢、魔 法、可能性が詰まっています。 そのため、 ソニックの世界にも理念世界が存在するの ではと思いました。 このように考えていい のでしょうか”
Which means
“Hello, Shiro Maekawa. I have a question about the sonic world. The world of Sonic is filled with many other worlds, dreams, magic, and possibilities. Therefore, I thought that there might be worlds of philosophy in Sonic's world as well. Is this correct?”
Although it can be translated as “a world of philosophy” as well since the kanji doesn’t specify how much of them or a specific plural.
and keep in mind “philosophy” refers to Platonic ideals here according to Jisho.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867972170905702430/1060330271234330654/IMG_3774.png
(Note: for NiGHTS Yuji Naka liked my tweet proposing that Archetypes from the NiGHTS into dreams game are unbound by Concepts Of Space and Time!
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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/663470398486216726/1029791456359088268/IMG_2728.png)
It should be noted that metaphysics was touched upon in Sonic And The Secret Rings
Yes there’s Metaphysics in Sonic.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1061853172534087700/IMG_3824.png
Wizeman
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Mephistus/Wizeman
Stated by himself to "easily" destroy the entirety of Nightmare without any sort of long delay at all suggested which would have his destruction revert this multiverse back to before he had created it:https://imgur.com/a/8yZdzuY
Turning it all back into a state of primordial nonexistence prior to time having ever existed (The NiGHTS Dimension existed when nothing existed):https://imgur.com/a/F21I7yB
This realm collectively is all of the bad dream worlds. These bad dream worlds are called nightmares and the collective number of bad dream worlds is as much as the modern-day human population numbering in the billions that experience the phenomena of having nightmares, if not more due to the number of humans being continually born per day, with an example of single bad dream world created by Chamelan being stated as infinite in its size. Dream worlds are entire real universes that are each cosmic duplicates of the real world and parallel bubbles to each other with each dream world being their own reality and there are many made per person, with each good dream world made being called a dream or a Nightopia and/or dreams having nightopias. Wizeman displays the power to destroy the background environment of where he is fought from with his energy from a starry sky containing many galaxies into a purple blank void and then recreate the starry sky back into existence again while during his battles with two dualized NiGHTS. Nightopias have no dimension of space are described as Platonic Realms.
All scans here and below:https://imgur.com/leGSZ37
https://imgur.com/wGQ9BN1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_NnCkXt7KQ&t=244s
https://imgur.com/rNEwiBu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeSod4FT0ws&t=2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFxH6-g8FGQ&t=2964s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeSod4FT0ws&t=21s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_NnCkXt7KQ&t=6434s
https://imgur.com/T2yk1wv
https://imgur.com/a/e9MVgxg
https://imgur.com/leGSZ37
https://imgur.com/nq3axuu
https://imgur.com/luRBBsZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czlv4fk2dmw&t=794s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq8YjUypxa4&t=279s
The Jungian Archetype stuff comes from NiGHTS (which is related to Sonic’s fictional universe) The bosses in NID are Jungian archetypes, but significantly so, NiGHTS is a Jungian Archetype Of The Shadows.Wizeman can create things like this individualize consciousness and so on so forth things like that https://youtu.be/r_NnCkXt7KQ?t=5795 So Wizeman could be considered conceptual or have Conceptual abilities
The "dreams" in Nights Into Dreams Are Dreams/Worlds Of Both Collective Consciousness And Unconsciousness Let's also note Nights Dimensions is specifically mentioned as one of these assets in a scan https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/992235289647009912/unknown.png and It’s said the cosmology derives from the psychologists and their works, the main ones brought out was Jung, Holtz and Freud: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/992235757722939483/unknown.png and then these interviews: http://www.nightsintodreams.com/?p=1343 and http://shmuplations.com/nights/ and https://easternmind.tumblr.com/post/254302563/heydaysofnaka
Lizuka Proves that this analysis is correct and even Says Carl Jung’s works is the primary foundation: https://youtu.be/fkEufRFp5Y8 and 5:56 of https://youtu.be/VrqsdYKay_c proves it even further.
Here’s Some Interview samples (which also says that the dream worlds are the mysterious worlds of the unconscious)
Nidcom: What were some of the challenges of creating this “dream world”?
Naka: Well, the very first designs that Oshima drew were very different from where we ended up. He interpreted the theme in a more fantastic way, a fantasy world of dreams. When I saw that, I told him that no one really has dreams like that. Dreams are usually closer to reality, and bear more of a resemblance to one’s inner psyche and subconscious. Everyone dreams, so I said let’s try and create a more natural image, something closer to the dreams we all have. The world of NiGHTS (in this game at least) derives from that way of thinking.
Iizuka: Since this was a world of “dreams” we were depicting—the mysterious world of the unconscious—we had to understand the whole thing before we could begin creating it. Take an island. If it’s a real island, it’s easy enough to create. Once we settled on the “dream” concept, though, it meant we had to design and create every detail of that island ex nihilo.
Nidcom: NiGHTS is considered to be one of the most magical, inspiring and mischievous characters Sonic Team ever created, continuing on through dreams long after the game has been won. Has NiGHTS ever appeared in your own dreams?
Yuji Naka: Of course. NiGHTS came from your dreams too. Being so, NiGHTS will keep living for a long time.
Nidcom: NiGHTS into Dreams has a lot of symbolism, you and Sonic Team did a lot of research into dream studies and Jung's Dream Archetypes. It is speculated that each character in NiGHTS is influenced by a specific Archetype. What Archetype inspired NiGHTS, if any?
Yuji Naka: NiGHTS, a hero, originated in “Shadow” which means another side of the self as defined by Jung in his dream definitions. Elliot and Claris, who have strayed from the dream world, originated from Jung’s Animus and Anima. Persona items that appear in the Wii version originate from Jung's dream theory, too.
Dreams in NiGHTS are Dreamworlds and Parallel Realities
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It's from this link, there was also some additional scans where they also had a brief history on dreaming (which included different philosophies and gods of dreams) interestingly enough.
https://retrocdn.net/images/7/76/MeanMachinesSega44UK.pdf
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...48136/Mean_Machines_SEGA_44_UK_Parallel_4.png
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Dreams contain dreamworlds (and NiGHTS exists in Sonic)
夢の世界を舞台にした 『NiGHTS』とのコラボステージ。
ソニックの夢の中に、 ナイトメアンと六鬼衆たちが現れる!
色を奪われた夢の世界を救い出せ!
A collaborative stage with "NiGHTS" set in a dream world.
In Sonic's dream, Nightmarean and the Six Demons appear!
Rescue the dream world deprived of color!
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/945033918036459531/1061125749014278194/IMG_2763.jpg
(Extras: Legend Of Zelda and Yoshi's worlds exist in the Sonic-Verse
任天堂の大人気シリーズ 「ゼルダの伝説」の世界が『ソニックロストワールド』に登場!
謎を解き明かし、神殿に眠るトライフォースを探し出せ!
今、伝説の舞台を「音速の勇者」が駆け巡る!
The world of Nintendo's popular series "The Legend of Zelda" is coming to "Sonic Lost World"!
Solve the mystery and find the Triforce that lies in the temple!
Now, the "hero of the speed of sound" runs around the legendary stage!
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/945033918036459531/1061124604812333096/IMG_2765.jpg
任天堂の人気キャラクター「ヨッシー」と夢の共演!
パッチワークのような明るく楽しい世界を、ソニックがヨッシーのタマゴを探して走りまわる。
Dream collaboration with Nintendo's popular character "Yoshi"!
Sonic runs around the bright and fun patchwork-like world in search of Yoshi's eggs.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/945033918036459531/1061124690669735946/IMG_2764.jpg )
Nightopians are born every time Ideya collide as well. Balls of light are Ideya so Sun and others balls of light are Ideya?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965834954573496363/1060058501029830697/image.png
Nightopians and Nightmarens are born from Light and Darkness
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823056393665904651/1060108112952049696/latest.png
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Keep in mind Light is infinite in Sonic.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823056393665904651/1060062084206960651/IMG_2370-1.jpg
Nightopians and Nightmarens create dreams and nightmares
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059626659122262026/1059629829596643338/image.png
The 2nd tier Nightmaren can create worlds
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823056393665904651/1060064292910665748/latest.png
So there would be an infinite number of nightmarens and nightopians that can create worlds even if a fraction of them created worlds it should be noted that a fraction of infinity is still infinity.
Keep in mind NiGHTS was stated to have endless dreams in its world
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...00/1056727280119988345/Nights_Print_Ad_KR.png
^ it says
자유롭게 하늘을 날며, 끝없는 꿈속의 환상세계로 모험을 떠나자! 환상적인 그래픽 박진감 넘치는 액션- 3차원 액션게임 나이츠
Which means
Fly freely in the sky and embark on an adventure into the fantasy world of endless dreams! Fantastic graphics Exciting action - 3D action Game NiGHTS
It is from a Korean ad poster
https://segaretro.org/NiGHTS_into_Dreams/Promotional_material
So there’s an Infinite number of dreams in Sonic/NiGHTS.
Eitaro Toyota implies my claim about The Phantom Ruby not being restricted by dimensionality (and the possibility that it transcends the concept of dimensions as a question) is an insight into the Phantom Ruby’s nature https://twitter.com/tylerreneem/status/1592937788936450048?s=46&t=jB1WCRWEINwkwefiSBoXoA and https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1594188408515354624?s=46&t=jB1WCRWEINwkwefiSBoXoA
Eitaro Toyoda confirms Null Space is a place where Scientific Approaches aren’t possible.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1049816765959516170/image.png
^ He said
それについては、エッグマンが敗走しインフィニット も消息が絶えた今、 わからなくなってしまいました エッグマンがああまで言うからには、科学的なアプ ローチでは出られない場所だったのでしょう 「無」の定義自体、とても難しいテーマです。いつか エッグマン本人から解説してもらいたいですね
Google says
About that, now that Eggman has been defeated and Infinite has disappeared, I don't know. From what Eggman said, it must have been a place where a scientific approach would not be possible. The definition of "nothingness" itself is a very difficult subject. I'd like to see Eggman himself explain it someday
DeepL says
We don't know that now that Eggman has been defeated and Infinite has disappeared. Eggman's statement to the contrary suggests that there was no scientific approach to getting out of the place. The definition of "nothingness" itself is a very difficult subject. I would love to have Eggman himself explain it to us someday.
Romajidesu says
As for that, now that Eggman has been defeated and Infinite has disappeared, I've lost track of it. If Eggman goes so far as to say so, it must have been a place where a scientific approach would not be possible. The definition of "nothingness" itself is a very difficult subject. I'd like to see Eggman himself explain it someday.
Shiro Maekawa liked my tweet basically confirming whether or not Eggman and Eggman Nega were using the Chaos Emeralds and Sol Emeralds to create an Eggman Land that transcends the concepts of dimensions
ソニック ラッシュ』では、カオスエメラルドとソルエメラルドを使って次元の概念を超えたエッグマンランドを作ろうとするエッグマンとエッグマンネガに対して、ソニックとブレイズが協力してそれぞれの世界を救うところでゲームが終わっています。ということでよろしいでしょうか。
Which means
In "Sonic Rush," the game ends with Sonic and Blaze working together to save their respective worlds against Eggman and Eggman Nega, who are trying to create an Eggman Land that transcends dimensional concepts using the Chaos Emeralds and Sol Emeralds. Is that correct?
And here: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1038939876214718594/IMG_2923.png and https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1038939876558647367/IMG_2924.png
^ Shiro Maekawa likes my tweet confirming it.
Transfinite Numbers/Mathematics and The Concepts of Parallel Universes in Sonic https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/951340955284406323/IMG_1082.png
^^^ right there James Wallis confirmed String Theory and Quantum Mechanics was in the book and that Transfinite Numbers/Cardinals came from Rudy Ruckers Infinity and The Mind https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/715638914328559678/image0.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/715638914760704100/image1.png
And according to Rudy Rucker’s Infinity and The Mind, Large Cardinals are part of it (plus The Mindscape). https://www.rudyrucker.com/infinityandthemind/
James Wallis States That The Martin Adams Sonic Books is set in the universe of Sonic 1 and 2 and that it is exists in the same continuity as the games https://twitter.com/jameswallis/status/1546245937550475264?s=21&t=PrSNR58y-ZVkEnHfwPKA_Q
Eitaro Toyoda confirms All Mathematical Concepts of Sequences and Sets exist in Sonic. https://mobile.twitter.com/YaSonicBoi1/status/1602916366775975937 and https://twitter.com/yasonicboi1/status/1603965106055811072?s=46&t=R61JncDOHu0PLaPQ6omp1A
He answers here: https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1604808318085500928?s=46&t=R61JncDOHu0PLaPQ6omp1A
^ Meaning all Transfinite Numbers/Infinite Sets exist in the verse!.
Before anyone says he said “It’s just a guess” it actually means legally valid or likely true. https://mobile-dictionary.reverso.net/en/english-definition/it's+just+a+guess https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/guess
A set is the mathematical model for a collection of different things; a set contains elements or members, which can be mathematical objects of any kind: numbers, symbols, points in space, lines, other geometrical shapes, variables, or even other sets. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_(mathematics)#:~:text=A%20set%20is%20the%20mathematical,variables%2C%20or%20even%20other%20sets.
Btw having the concepts of sets (which Sonic has) is broken
The concept of set is one that suffices as the basis on which all abstract notions in mathematics can be built
https://www.math.mcgill.ca/makkai/MATH3182007/318071S1.pdf (specifically this: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1058219946632560670/IMG_3674.png)
^ Mathematical Universe Hypothesis (aka Type/Level 4 Multiverse) is basically built from this alone lmfao.
Eitaro Toyoda implies the Concepts Of The Multiverse exist in Sonic saying it is a good subject for inspiration (meaning a brilliant idea) and that it will be hard to control https://twitter.com/tylerreneem/status/1601061572386127872?s=46&t=MyOhFUBpII47cdYVqzztCg https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1602751481496895489?s=46&t=MyOhFUBpII47cdYVqzztCg
According to Eitaro Toyoda the concepts of arithmetic and mathematics exists in the world of Sonic
https://twitter.com/tylerreneem/status/1611508597275475968?s=46&t=sd8bFXFAgDrBOrb6dlXs5g and https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1612538997733232640?s=46&t=sd8bFXFAgDrBOrb6dlXs5g
Metal Sonic has specs and functions that takes into account and operates on Mathematically Logical properties
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1059579851276820490/E6SOCP0WQAENgeS.png
The kanji in that scan is 論理演算 which means Logic Operator/Operation and is used commonly to refer to Mathematical Logic (both will be important for later and gives heavy implications)
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1059280743941021766/IMG_3702.png
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Metal_Sonic
And the areas and/or branches of Mathematical Logic includes Proof Theory, Recursion Theory, Model Theory, Set Theory and etc: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_logic
https://mathematics.huji.ac.il/mathematical-logic
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_theory
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_theory
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computability_theory
Mathematical Logic is built from Logic Operators/Operations
http://web.stanford.edu/class/archive/cs/cs103/cs103.1152/lectures/07/Slides07.pdf
A logical operator (or connective) on mathematical statements is a word or combination of words that combines one or more mathematical statements to make a new mathematical statement. A compound statement is a statement that contains one or more operators. - https://math.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Mathematical_Logic_and_Proof/Book:_Mathematical_Reasoning__Writing_and_Proof_(Sundstrom)/02:_Logical_Reasoning/2.01:_Statements_and_Logical_Operators#:~:text=A logical operator (or connective,contains one or more operators.
Mathematics typically involves combining true (or hypothetically true) statements in various ways to produce (or prove) new true statements. - https://www.whitman.edu/mathematics/higher_math_online/section01.01.html
Mathematical logic is the study of formal logic within mathematics. Major subareas include model theory, proof theory, set theory, and recursion theory. Research in mathematical logic commonly addresses the mathematical properties of formal systems of logic such as their expressive or deductive power. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_logic
Basic Mathematical Logical Operators. The three logical operators used in Mathematics are: Conjunction (AND); Disjunction (OR); Negation (NOT). - https://byjus.com/maths/mathematical-logic/
Logic Operators/Operations includes the concepts of negation, implication, disjunction, conjunction, equality and etc
https://www.mathreference.org/index/page/id/58/lg/en
They are the very principles of mathematics
m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Mathematical_Proof_and_the_Principles_of_Mathematics/Logic/Logical_connectives
Logic operators/operations are called Logic connectives
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_connective
These are the categories of Logic connectives
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Logical_connectives
Which include Modal operators/logic
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_operator
Which includes the likes of modal realism (MR) and extended modal realism (EMR)
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_realism
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_modal_realism
(Note: Ian Flynn confirms the concepts of logic operators/operations, mathematical logic and arithmetic exist in the world of Sonic at 3:25 of https://youtu.be/sha_ln_Q9kw)
It should also be noted that since the collective unconscious (that Sonic has) is the matrix of all metaphysical statements of all mythology and all philosophy ( here: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1015510451930533909/IMG_1929-1.png ) it would contain the concepts of modal realism and extended modal realism (plus Modal metaphysics as a whole) since they are metaphysical statements and are philosophical. There would be an infinite amount of these collective unconsciousness as well as their numbers are determined by the number of dreams/dream-worlds which are infinite.
Eitaro Toyoda also confirms the statement of The Chaos Emeralds being Super Substantials is official
https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1604787515017162752?s=46&t=R61JncDOHu0PLaPQ6omp1A
He answers here: https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1604787515017162752?s=46&t=R61JncDOHu0PLaPQ6omp1A
You're probably wondering what "Super Substance" or "SuperSubstantial" is
It basically means you’re above all substances. Substance is either the ultimate reality or underlying nature of a thing or the basic “stuff” of which things are composed (especially the world). Matter is a kind of substance as it is the underlying nature of material objects. Another example is Plato’s Forms which is a substance above the substance known as Matter (which is the way Plato refers to “Substance” in his context) and is an unchanging substance. “To account for the fundamental whatness of a thing, Plato posited an unchanging form or idea as the underlying and unchanging substance.” - https://openstax.org/books/introduction-philosophy/pages/6-1-substance#:~:text=To account for the fundamental,be located within this world. Some types of substances are listed here https://www.britannica.com/topic/substance-philosophy There are many different types of substances Material substances Immaterial substances primary substances secondary substances eternal substances (which is the ultimate reality of things like Plato’s Forms) Etc. I assume this would either grant a lot of conceptual manipulation haxxes or Outerversal due to its applications and this would particularly apply to the Chaos Emeralds since its whole gimmick is it manipulates/creates ideas and thoughts and turns them into power or forms miracles plus the fact they are super substance/super substantial outright stated in the old material. It’s a very broken thing to be classified as.
On a lesser note
Eitaro Toyoda confirms without Affirmation or Denial that The Chaos Emeralds may have the ability to affect all concepts of Space and Time https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1600850095985291264?s=46&t=kyg4r1xlWtjXhaGHDwpJyg
MaginaryWorld is a place that has dreams from every space/plane (and the universe dreams?)
支 撐 整 個 奇 妙 世 界 Maginary Whirl 的 能 量 石 Precioustones 突 然 被 邪 惡 的 Void 偷 去 ， 它 其 實 是 由 各 個 不 同 空 間 的 生 物 的 夢 想 所 組 成 ， 內 裡 包 含 了 全 宇 宙 的 願 望 。 守 護 天 使 Illumina 於 是 立 即 召 集 Sonic 及 其 他 同 伴 展 開 一 場 能 量 石 的 爭 奪 戰 ， 免 得 全 宇 宙 的 夢 想 落 入 Void 的 魔 掌 之 中 。
Which according to DeepL means
The Precioustones, the energy stones that support the Maginary Whirl, are suddenly stolen by the evil Void, and are actually composed of the dreams of beings from all different planes, containing the wishes of the entire universe. The guardian angel Illumina immediately summons Sonic and other companions to fight for the energy stone before the dreams of the universe fall into the clutches of the Void.
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...4611/1943c77d-78e6-426b-8dae-f446883144c1.png
From: https://web.archive.org/web/20010305011202/http://www.sega.com.hk/b5/info/decgame/sonic.htm
Note: You might notice that a noticeable amount of the WOG stuff (from Shiro Maekawa) is them liking my questions/posts/claims/assertions
So at first you might think “Those are likes they don’t mean much”
But they do mean something
To like something is to find it agreeable or satisfactory
And in context of social media it’s a mark of approval:
https://www.google.com/search?q=like+definition&newwindow=1&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS974US975&hl=en-US&sxsrf=ALiCzsYWAStdbWTnYAyZrvqVDkFiHaXbCQ%3A1671656769302&ei=QXWjY6DvEZqu5NoP_r67mA8&oq=like+def&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIJCCMQJxBGEPkBMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDoHCCMQ6gIQJzoECCMQJzoFCAAQkQI6EQguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOhQILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARDRAxDUAjoLCC4QgAQQsQMQgwE6CAgAEIAEELEDOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToECAAQQzoICAAQsQMQkQI6BwgAELEDEEM6CwguEIAEELEDENQCOgQIABADOgUILhCABEoECEEYAFD9CljgIGCPJmgDcAB4AIABmwGIAbIGkgEDNi4ymAEAoAEBsAEPwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
Particularly this:
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So these should easily apply and prove the scale does exist.
Note 1: Eitaro Toyoda agrees with the thought that Sonic lives in a world parallel to the Sega Universes
https://twitter.com/tylerreneem/status/1597489630064316416?s=46&t=rdiTz-Y6DKqANDQOAFHNDw and https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1597531670781251589?s=46&t=rdiTz-Y6DKqANDQOAFHNDw
With that comes more proof Sonic has Platonism because of Yakuza
Plato's theory of forms is mentioned and there’s mentions of a SEGA professor having Sonic among them as part of the studies with even Sonic being popular in the world.
-Yakuza like a Dragon
連回中のスタッフを
お呼びください
Staff in a row
Please call us
-From a Tails sign in Yakuza Kiwami
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mentions stuff on an enlightenment of giving up material things, it also mentions transcendental beauty
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ionRGzrtpDo&ab_channel=SteelOfBallsMoments
The transcendentals (Latin: transcendentalia, from transcendere "to exceed") are the properties of being, nowadays commonly considered to be truth, beauty, and goodness[citation needed]. The concept arose from medieval scholasticism. Viewed ontologically, the transcendentals are understood to be what is common to all beings. From a cognitive point of view, they are the "first" concepts, since they cannot be logically traced back to something preceding them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendentals
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What is Spatial Thinking and what does it allow? (or imply?)
“Spatial thinking allows you to understand the location and dimension of objects, and how different objects are related. It also allows you to visualize and manipulate objects and shapes in your head.” - https://kids.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frym.2020.00050#:~:text=Spatial thinking allows you to,and shapes in your head.
“Spatial thinking is defined as the knowledge, skills, and habits of mind to use concepts of space, tools of representation like maps and graphs, and processes of reasoning to organize and solve problems (Downs and de Souza 2005).” - https://apcentral.collegeboard.org/...es/maps-and-spatial-thinking-skills-classroom
“Spatial thinking is thinking that finds meaning in the shape, size, orientation, location, direction or trajectory, of objects, processes or phenomena, or the relative positions in space of multiple objects, processes or phenomena. Spatial thinking uses the properties of space as a vehicle for structuring problems, for finding answers, and for expressing solutions (National Research Council, 2006).” - https://serc.carleton.edu/research_on_learning/synthesis/spatial.html.
“the committee defines spatial thinking as a constructive amalgam of three elements: concepts of space, tools of representation, and processes of reasoning. Space provides the conceptual and analytical framework within which data can be integrated, related, and structured into a whole. Representations—either internal and cognitive or external and graphic, linguistic, physical, and so forth—provide the forms within which structured information can be stored, analyzed, comprehended, and communicated to others. Reasoning processes provide the means of manipulating, interpreting, and explaining the structured information.” - https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/11019/chapter/4
This proves that 1. The Concepts of Dimensions and Size exists in the verse and 2. Space is a thing of multiple concepts in the Sonic Verse. It can basically have any number of dimensions in the verse based on how it works.
Sonic’s SpaceTime is composed of Continuous Time
CD알라딘보이니까 가능한 방대한 라운드 속을 소닉이 초광속으로 달려간다!
연속된 시간의 단편단편이 이어지는 시공간의 세계-
말로는 표현하기 어려운 신비의 세계를 직접 체험해 보시기 바랍니다!
CD Aladdin Boy, so Sonic runs at ultra-light speed through the vast rounds as possible!
The world of space-time, followed by fragments of continuous time-
Experience the mysterious world that is difficult to express!
https://comandgame.tistory.com/m/71
Continuous Time has infinite points within time, is bare minimum infinite dimensional, functions on every interval on the Real Line (in other words n-dimensional at least), and is Infinite in addition time is viewed as a continuous variable.
Basic Definitions. A continuous-time (CT) signal is a function, s(t), that is defined for all time t contained in some interval on the real line. - https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/continuous-time-signal#:~:text=Basic Definitions,are often called analog signals.
A continuous-time signal has values for all points in time in some (possibly infinite) interval. - https://www.princeton.edu/~cuff/ele301/files/lecture1_2.pdf
continuous time systems which contains the main examples and to which the basic finite dimensional systems facts extend in a reasonable fashion - https://mathweb.ucsd.edu/~helton/BILLSPAPERSscanned/H76b.pdf
theory of linear operators on infinite dimensional vector spaces as they occur in ... pendent of time, is composed of the mutually exclusive and constant. - https://people.math.osu.edu/gerlach.1/math/BVtypset
approximating infinite-dimensional systems with finite-dimensionalones has been ad- ... continuous-time infinite-dimensional system T(s). - https://corescholar.libraries.wright.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=&httpsredir=1&article=1002&context=ee
continuous-time LQR problem ... continuous-time system ˙x = Ax + Bu, x(0) = x0 ... ...an infinite-dimensional problem: (trajectory u : [0,T] → R. - https://stanford.edu/class/ee363/lectures/clqr.pdf
Suppose that a static-state feedback stabilizes a continuous-time linear infinite-dimensional control system. - https://math.unl.edu/~rrebarber1/S0002-9947-03-03142-8.pdf
introduce an L2(0, 1)–infinite dimensional torus T. For a class of ... two solutions differ by an integer, that property is preserved over time. - https://www.math.ucla.edu/~wgangbo/publications/VlasovMay11.pdf
fixed endpoints for some classes of linear infinite dimensional (discrete-time and continuous- time) control systems is considered - https://mpra.ub.uni-muenchen.de/57430/1/MPRA_paper_57430.pdf
Continuous time views variables as having a particular value only for an infinitesimally short amount of time. Between any two points in time there are an infinite number of other points in time. The variable "time" ranges over the entire real number line, or depending on the context, over some subset of it such as the non-negative reals. Thus time is viewed as a continuous variable.
In contrast, continuous time views variables as having a particular value only for an infinitesimally short amount of time. Between any two points in time there are an infinite number of other points in time. The variable "time" ranges over the entire real number line, or depending on the context, over some subset of it such as the non-negative reals. Thus time is viewed as a continuous variable.
A continuous signal or a continuous-time signal is a varying quantity (a signal) whose domain, which is often time, is a continuum (e.g., a connected interval of the reals). That is, the function's domain is an uncountable set. The function itself need not to be continuous. To contrast, a discrete-time signal has a countable domain, like the natural numbers. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrete_time_and_continuous_time
A continuous variable is a variable that can take on infinitely many, uncountable values - https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/continuous-variable
Continuous time is a part of the SpaceTimes in Sonic keep this in mind
So bare minimum Time is Multiverse+-Low Outerverse and up in Sonic and the concepts of dimensions, space and time exist in Sonic (which will be important later on).
But let’s just pretend we didn’t see those things right?
Well
At 17:47 of Ian Flynn, the lore manager of Sonic The Hedgehog interprets Sonic Boom as being an alternate reality in the Game Sonic multiverse. And at 44:32 of Ian Flynn; the lore manager of Sonic The Hedgehog implies what he means by Sonic Boom being a Separate Canon is that it’s a different branch of the Game Sonic canon/universe.
(Note: Eitaro Toyoda liked my tweet proposing the different worlds of Sonic Media are connected
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https://twitter.com/tylerreneem/status/1608206553034772481?s=46&t=rdiTz-Y6DKqANDQOAFHNDw
^ I said
アートがとても素敵です。 飯塚隆は、ソ ニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグに関連するすべ てのメディアをひとつの大きなものにした いと聞いていますが、それは、たとえまっ たく異なる世界であっても、何らかの形で つながっていると感じられるようにするた めで、私としてはとても興味深いアイデアです。
Which means
The art is very nice. I have heard that Takashi Iizuka wants to make all the media related to Sonic the Hedgehog into one big thing, which is an interesting idea to me, to make even totally different worlds feel connected in some way.
And Ian Flynn said Sonic Media canon is inclusive: from https://youtu.be/L8D23AM3CDI. )
Sonic Boom is a different branch of the Sonic Canon and Universe https://venturebeat.com/games/dont-...ust-a-different-branch-of-the-sonic-universe/ https://www.gamespot.com/articles/s...-what-has-sega-done-to-knuckles/1100-6417572/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cy3XaFFHBk
I believe Sonic Boom is in the Sonic Encyclospeedia which would support this since the Encyclospeedia is meant to explore the Sonic The Hedgehog Universe.
Sonic Boom being stated to be a new branch of the Sonic Mythos/Universe in the Sonic The Hedgehog Encyclospeedia.
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Here’s the proof of the Sonic Encyclospeedia being centered around things in the Sonic The Hedgehog Expanding Universe in its product description
“Dive deep into the extensive lore and exhaustive detail of each game in Sonic's ever-expanding universe--from the beloved SEGA Genesis to the most bleeding-edge video game consoles. This tome leaves no stone unturned, showcasing in-depth looks at the characters, settings, and stories from each exciting installment!” - https://www.amazon.com/Sonic-Hedgehog-Encyclo-speed-ia-Ian-Flynn/dp/1506719279#:~:text=The%20book%20details%20all%20the,it%20is%20easy%20to%20recommend.&text=If%20you’re%20a%20Sonic,you%20everything%20you%20already%20know.
Sonic boom is a parallel universe to the games considered to be the third iteration of Sonic according to the official sonic 25th anniversary artbook even saying that the modern, classic and boom varieties coexist.
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Fun action Fleetway and Archie are stated to be in the same world as the Sonic spin-offs.
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(Source is the Sonic 25th anniversary artbook: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823056393665904651/1061407093837529208/Artbook_by_SEGA.PNG)
Sonic Boom has these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpxnJH_z6pc
https://youtu.be/wQfs4f0MzX0?t=560 Ian Flynn confirmed Boom Tails was talking about The Idea Of The Multiverse Theory In The Episode "Two Good To Be True" aka My Question!
Sonic Boom has String Theory
6:55 hedgehog day is string theory and Super string theory https://youtu.be/FX8oOqFWWlg For mombot, it's at 1:38 https://youtu.be/OKUQnHIojZI
Sonic Boom has different/higher planes of Existence
https://youtube.com/watch?v=S5IX2CsjTVI&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE&t=311
Ian Flynn confirms NiGHTS is part of the Sonic Universe even though he doesn’t like it at 1:13 of https://youtu.be/tbUfomWKc3k
Ian Flynn states "reality" in sonic is not concrete and isn't bound by parameters https://youtu.be/-rJzigYk1rY?t=5543
Ian Flynn states that Solaris can destroy the concept of spacetime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTgA7wsBS3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiST5vYq2zw
Ian Flynn also confirms the Chaos Emeralds grant the power to wreck everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBZYdYf80ZE&t=45s
Did you know that in the Japanese version of Sonic Generations it’s revealed that Time Eater also stole/erased the energy of things he put into the White Space? Sonic Generations: Sonic the restored time and energy of the world https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1042203160346902628/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1042203159512223865/unknown.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1042203160032313435/unknown.png
White Space is a realm between Dimensions that holds the universe together
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Sonic Scaling Time Eater
突然現れた謎のバケモノ。不思議な渦を作り出し、ソニックの仲間たちを次元の彼方に飛ばしてしまう。
Which according to DeepL means
A mysterious monster suddenly appears. It creates a mysterious vortex that sends Sonic's friends flying beyond the dimension.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1060408969333592155/IMG_2522.jpg
(Note: Translation might be iffy because others like Romajidesu claims Sonic’s friends were sent across dimensions which might mean White Space exists in every dimension or there’s a White Space in every dimension)
Ian Flynn also confirms that the White Space in Sonic Generations is an Aspatial and Atemporal realm
https://youtu.be/O3bD3fl3y_0
at 1:39:53 of https://youtu.be/TI0Jf3VssnU Ian Flynn said on a question of (https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1038506225240911992/IMG_2903.png) that he thinks so and that he thinks MaginaryWorld (despite its ill defined limitations) covers all those basis’.
Basically dreams in Sonic can encompass any size, scope, range and concept and MaginaryWorld contains every single dream.
I asked Shiro Maekawa about whether or not each of the stories in the Arabian Nights were worlds of their own
ゲーム「ソニックと秘密のリング」の中で、千夜一夜物語の各話が独自の世界であることを示すヒントがあります。そう考えていいのでしょうか？
Which means
In the game "Sonic and the Ring of Secrets" there are hints that each story of the Thousand and One Nights is its own world. Is it safe to assume so?
^ So Shiro Maekawa liked my tweet basically confirming that each story in the One Thousand and One Nights book is a world of its own.
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Shiro Maekawa liked my tweet confirming that the Arabian Nights has an endless amount of dreams and worlds.
I asked this
ソニックと秘密のリング』では、『千夜一夜物語』の世界にはいろいろな世界があり、その世界には夢がいっぱいあることが暗示されていますが、それは無限にありうると考えていいのでしょうか。
In "Sonic and the Ring of Secrets," it is implied that there are many different worlds in the world of "One Thousand and One Nights," and that these worlds are full of dreams, but is it safe to assume that there could be an infinite number of them?
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Eitaro Toyoda agrees with the Thought that the Stories in the Arabian Nights are independent worlds. https://twitter.com/onepopdrop/status/1595439907589193729?s=46&t=ezSTZBdi8NDZzNj0yo0Gcg https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1595619969366384641?s=46&t=ezSTZBdi8NDZzNj0yo0Gcg
Ian Flynn believes MaginaryWorld can maybe hold an infinite number of dream-worlds: https://youtu.be/UNSt2BmGqx4?t=934
Eitaro Toyoda states that the teams in Sonic Heroes have infinite possibilities https://twitter.com/TylerreneeM/status/1598184737604263936?s=20&t=DDaXekt6iIeFeQJFx5K-ng https://twitter.com/E_Toyoda39/status/1598869030995365888?s=20&t=DDaXekt6iIeFeQJFx5K-ng
Shiro Maekawa liked my tweet asking whether or not Silver’s timeline is part of an Infinite number of timelines.
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Quantum Mechanics/Level III Parallel Universes (as well as the concepts of parallel universes) might exist in Sonic per Eitaro Toyoda’s answer to my Question saying he would like it to exist and liked my reply to his answer: https://twitter.com/onepopdrop/status/1598201412831219712?s=46&t=pP0skTWKhlUEYtSV4EebGw
Infinite Dimensional Parallel Universes confirmed to exist in Sonic. So while Eitaro Toyoda (who supervises the world setting of sonic the hedgehog) says he can’t mention anything that isn’t explained in the games, there are two interpretations here: he believes there is either an Infinite Number of Parallel Universes with an accompanying Infinite number of Dimensions or while he may not exactly know how many parallel universes exist in Sonic, he believes there are ones accompanied with infinite dimensions in Sonic The Hedgehog but believes “even if there were” (which implies it might be true by definition) they were as good as (meaning nearly but not quite) nonexistent unless observed and we can only hope Sonic will find them implying they’re out there for him to find. https://twitter.com/tylerreneem/status/1596261225536577539?s=46&t=Lmg98FQ8Vdc4whAqLXnU5g and https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1596435194990690304?s=46&t=Lmg98FQ8Vdc4whAqLXnU5g
The question was this
こんにちは。ソニック・ラッシュやソニック・ラッシュ・アドベンチャーでパラレルワールドの概念が出てきたときから、ずっと疑問に思っていたことがあります。ソニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグの世界には、無限の並行宇宙とそれに伴う無限の次元が存在する可能性があると思われますか？
Which means
Hello. I have been wondering something ever since the concept of parallel universes was introduced in Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure. Do you think it is possible that there could be an infinite number of parallel universes and the accompanying infinite number of dimensions in the world of Sonic the Hedgehog?
So this can be taken as possibly High Hyperversal bare minimum or easily High Hyperversal.
Eitaro Toyoda confirms The Concepts of Hyperspaces/Subspaces and Superspaces exist in the World Of Sonic as something known by Sonic and as a consideration not exactly explained in the games https://twitter.com/yutogt12/status/1603295257524723712?s=46&t=X-d9TDg1AZO3Ecji7ZUxjg ^
This was asked
“こんにちは。昔のソニックの資料には、ファング・ザ・スナイパーやフリッキーたちのいる場所など、亜空間たちのことがたくさん書かれていました。ソニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグの世界では、「亜空間たち」と「超空間たち」という概念そのものが本当に存在するのでしょうか？”
Which means
“Hello. In the old Sonic materials, there were many references to hyperspaces, such as the location of Fang the Sniper and Flicky and his friends. In the world of Sonic the Hedgehog, do the concepts of "hyperspaces" and "superspaces" themselves really exist?”
Eitaro Toyoda responded with
“うーん。どうでしょう？私もわからないです。ソニックのまわりには色々な世界があるので、知っていそうではありますが…。まあ、ゲームの中で説明されていないことは考察として楽しみましょう。
”Which means
“Hmmm. What do you think? I don't know either. There are so many different worlds around Sonic, so it seems like he knows about them.... Well, let's enjoy what is not explained in the game as a consideration.
^ One of the definitions/concepts of a Superspace is a space of infinite dimensions:
https://www.google.com/search?q=superspace+definition&newwindow=1&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS974US975&hl=en-US&sxsrf=ALiCzsY7Llp__cybUTzBdlIAuJcUGCpCMQ%3A1671655430007&ei=BXCjY9GCPZzU5NoPgZmzyAE&oq=superspace+definition&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAMyCQgjECcQRhD5ATIFCAAQhgMyBQgAEIYDMgUIABCGAzIFCAAQogQyBwgAEB4QogQyBwgAEB4QogQyBQgAEKIEOgoIABBHENYEELADOgwIIxCwAhAnEEYQ-QFKBAhBGABQ-RNYhSFg4yRoAnAAeACAAW-IAZ8CkgEDMi4xmAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
So for the question for Bumblekast @BumbleKing Videos Does Sonic have Platonism, Carl Jung archetypes, Neoplatonism and quantum mechanics? Ian Flynn responds with maybe at 41:47 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FIGLrhV8kY
Ian Flynn confirms and agrees with Platonic Abstract Objects like Ideas, Concepts, and Numbers (with Thoughts and etc counting as Platonic Abstract Objects) existing in Sonic at 21:11 of https://youtu.be/xCLxoIOTOY4.
And before you say anything Ian Flynn states he read up on Plato (though at the time he didn't personally think it was applicable to Sonic) https://youtu.be/HjT_IUSejZM?t=1078
So one cannot make the argument that “he doesn’t know what Platonism is” that’s just not true.
Moreover
Shiro Maekawa liked my Tweet about assuming the philosophies of Plato and Aristotle exist in the world of Sonic
This is what I said
ソニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグ」をプレイしていたら、ギリシャの哲学者アリストテレスの話が出てきました。ソニックの世界にもアリストテレスやプラトンの哲学が存在すると考えていいのでしょうか？
I was playing "Sonic the Hedgehog" and came across a reference to the Greek philosopher Aristotle. Is it correct to think that the philosophies of Aristotle and Plato exist in the world of Sonic?
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Eitaro Toyoda confirmed Plato’s Ideas exist in Sonic! https://twitter.com/yasonicboi1/status/1602561448072429571?s=46&t=2QEU5LGFJFVV6AESnCb4_g
Specifically right here https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1602747535621517312?s=46&t=2QEU5LGFJFVV6AESnCb4_g
Note: If it (or in this case: I and Eitaro Toyoda) were referring to ideas in the general sense it (or we) would’ve used this: アイデア or 発想 Or other alternatives (but less common): 理念· 思想· 構想· はつい· 案· 趣向· 考案· そう· いこう· 思い付き· 意向· 想· ねん· いちあん· ちゃくい· りょうけん· 着意· 発意· しそう· 主意· りねん· 趣意· おもいつき· しゅこう· はつあん· 了見· 思いつき· はっそう· 料簡· 落想· アィディア· 匠· 意嚮· いっさく· 想念· イデー· こうあん· かんねん Yet we used “イデア” And Just “イデア” refers to Ideas of the Platonic Kind: https://jisho.org/search/イデア and https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/イデア The question also asked if Ideas exists as abstract objects in the World Of Sonic The Hedgehog. And Platonism is essentially the proposition that Ideas are Abstract Objects and that Abstract Objects exist.
Platonism is the view that there exist such things as abstract objects - https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/platonism/
Platonism is the view that there exist such things as abstract objects — where an abstract object is an object that does not exist in space or time and which is therefore entirely non-physical and non-mental. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonism#:~:text=Platonism%20is%20the%20view%20that,sense%20is%20a%20contemporary%20view.
If you want the translation to what I said then here’s this:
豊田栄太郎さん、こんにちは。ソニック・ザ・ヘッジホッグの世界について質問なのですが、あの世界には数字やイデアのような抽象的なオブジェクトは存在するのでしょうか？あり得ると思います。テイルスとエッグマンは暇なときに数字の概念などをいろいろと勉強するのでしょうか？
Which according to DeepL means
Hello Eitaro Toyoda. I have a question about the world of Sonic the Hedgehog. Are there abstract objects like numbers and ideas in that world? I think there can be. Do Tails and Eggman study various concepts such as numbers in their spare time?
Which Eitaro Toyoda responded with
文化と文明がある以上、文字はありますよ！ソニックも本を色々読んでましたし、ナックルズも（意外と？）古文書を読めたりしますよね。 イデアについては、精神と文化を持つ生物のグループなら持ってる物だと思うので、私は彼らにもあると信じています。 ※イデアと言えば『Nights』を連想しますね！
Which according to DeepL means
As long as there's culture and civilization, there's writing! Sonic read a lot of books, and Knuckles (surprisingly?) read a lot of books too. Knuckles can also (surprisingly?) read ancient texts. As for Ideas, I believe they have it because it is something that any group of creatures with a spirit and culture would have. *Speaking of Ideas, I think of "Nights!"
It’s basically a double confirmation for NiGHTS and Sonic that they have Platonic Ideas. And before you say anything…. Eitaro Toyoda was a writer for a few sonic games and is in charge of managing the world setting according to his twitter profile: https://twitter.com/E_Toyoda39?s=20&t=DDaXekt6iIeFeQJFx5K-ng
Also do note that the NiGHTS Into Dreams series itself has used that Kanji to describe the Ideyas Such as
そのイデアの光がナイトビアという世界を創り出すのじゃ!
The light of that Idea creates the world of Nightbeer! https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1052327809915297922/image.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1052327810418618489/image.png
And
この白い光が... ホワイトイデア...
This white light... White Idea... https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1052329151710892132/image.png https://media.discordapp.net/attach...6384/a9e8c351-1d5a-4580-90b0-eb5279910366.png
The Ideyas exist in Sonic as shown in Sonic Pinball party at 10:55 of https://youtu.be/pJ7aKdZkT0M
Shiro Maekawa liked and/or agreed with my tweet asking if the idea of Platonic Worlds existing in the world of Sonic The Hedgehog was correct. And for anyone thinking I’m "capping" on the Platonic Worlds existing in Sonic then put the kanji in Jisho and you’ll find this (last link)
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/663470398486216726/1050644720818323496/IMG_3196.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/663470398486216726/1050644721074180146/IMG_3197.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/663470398486216726/1050644721334239302/IMG_3198.png
^ My question says
“前川司郎さん、こんにちは。ソ ニックの世界について質問です。 ソニック の世界には、たくさんの異世界、夢、魔 法、可能性が詰まっています。 そのため、 ソニックの世界にも理念世界が存在するの ではと思いました。 このように考えていい のでしょうか”
Which means
“Hello, Shiro Maekawa. I have a question about the sonic world. The world of Sonic is filled with many other worlds, dreams, magic, and possibilities. Therefore, I thought that there might be worlds of philosophy in Sonic's world as well. Is this correct?”
Although it can be translated as “a world of philosophy” as well since the kanji doesn’t specify how much of them or a specific plural.
and keep in mind “philosophy” refers to Platonic ideals here according to Jisho.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/867972170905702430/1060330271234330654/IMG_3774.png
(Note: for NiGHTS Yuji Naka liked my tweet proposing that Archetypes from the NiGHTS into dreams game are unbound by Concepts Of Space and Time!
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/663470398486216726/1029791456073883719/IMG_2727.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/663470398486216726/1029791456359088268/IMG_2728.png)
It should be noted that metaphysics was touched upon in Sonic And The Secret Rings
Yes there’s Metaphysics in Sonic.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1061853172534087700/IMG_3824.png
Wizeman
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Mephistus/Wizeman
Stated by himself to "easily" destroy the entirety of Nightmare without any sort of long delay at all suggested which would have his destruction revert this multiverse back to before he had created it:https://imgur.com/a/8yZdzuY
Turning it all back into a state of primordial nonexistence prior to time having ever existed (The NiGHTS Dimension existed when nothing existed):https://imgur.com/a/F21I7yB
This realm collectively is all of the bad dream worlds. These bad dream worlds are called nightmares and the collective number of bad dream worlds is as much as the modern-day human population numbering in the billions that experience the phenomena of having nightmares, if not more due to the number of humans being continually born per day, with an example of single bad dream world created by Chamelan being stated as infinite in its size. Dream worlds are entire real universes that are each cosmic duplicates of the real world and parallel bubbles to each other with each dream world being their own reality and there are many made per person, with each good dream world made being called a dream or a Nightopia and/or dreams having nightopias. Wizeman displays the power to destroy the background environment of where he is fought from with his energy from a starry sky containing many galaxies into a purple blank void and then recreate the starry sky back into existence again while during his battles with two dualized NiGHTS. Nightopias have no dimension of space are described as Platonic Realms.
All scans here and below:https://imgur.com/leGSZ37
https://imgur.com/wGQ9BN1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_NnCkXt7KQ&t=244s
https://imgur.com/rNEwiBu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeSod4FT0ws&t=2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFxH6-g8FGQ&t=2964s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeSod4FT0ws&t=21s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_NnCkXt7KQ&t=6434s
https://imgur.com/T2yk1wv
https://imgur.com/a/e9MVgxg
https://imgur.com/leGSZ37
https://imgur.com/nq3axuu
https://imgur.com/luRBBsZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Czlv4fk2dmw&t=794s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq8YjUypxa4&t=279s
The Jungian Archetype stuff comes from NiGHTS (which is related to Sonic’s fictional universe) The bosses in NID are Jungian archetypes, but significantly so, NiGHTS is a Jungian Archetype Of The Shadows.Wizeman can create things like this individualize consciousness and so on so forth things like that https://youtu.be/r_NnCkXt7KQ?t=5795 So Wizeman could be considered conceptual or have Conceptual abilities
The "dreams" in Nights Into Dreams Are Dreams/Worlds Of Both Collective Consciousness And Unconsciousness Let's also note Nights Dimensions is specifically mentioned as one of these assets in a scan https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/992235289647009912/unknown.png and It’s said the cosmology derives from the psychologists and their works, the main ones brought out was Jung, Holtz and Freud: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/992235757722939483/unknown.png and then these interviews: http://www.nightsintodreams.com/?p=1343 and http://shmuplations.com/nights/ and https://easternmind.tumblr.com/post/254302563/heydaysofnaka
Lizuka Proves that this analysis is correct and even Says Carl Jung’s works is the primary foundation: https://youtu.be/fkEufRFp5Y8 and 5:56 of https://youtu.be/VrqsdYKay_c proves it even further.
Here’s Some Interview samples (which also says that the dream worlds are the mysterious worlds of the unconscious)
Nidcom: What were some of the challenges of creating this “dream world”?
Naka: Well, the very first designs that Oshima drew were very different from where we ended up. He interpreted the theme in a more fantastic way, a fantasy world of dreams. When I saw that, I told him that no one really has dreams like that. Dreams are usually closer to reality, and bear more of a resemblance to one’s inner psyche and subconscious. Everyone dreams, so I said let’s try and create a more natural image, something closer to the dreams we all have. The world of NiGHTS (in this game at least) derives from that way of thinking.
Iizuka: Since this was a world of “dreams” we were depicting—the mysterious world of the unconscious—we had to understand the whole thing before we could begin creating it. Take an island. If it’s a real island, it’s easy enough to create. Once we settled on the “dream” concept, though, it meant we had to design and create every detail of that island ex nihilo.
Nidcom: NiGHTS is considered to be one of the most magical, inspiring and mischievous characters Sonic Team ever created, continuing on through dreams long after the game has been won. Has NiGHTS ever appeared in your own dreams?
Yuji Naka: Of course. NiGHTS came from your dreams too. Being so, NiGHTS will keep living for a long time.
Nidcom: NiGHTS into Dreams has a lot of symbolism, you and Sonic Team did a lot of research into dream studies and Jung's Dream Archetypes. It is speculated that each character in NiGHTS is influenced by a specific Archetype. What Archetype inspired NiGHTS, if any?
Yuji Naka: NiGHTS, a hero, originated in “Shadow” which means another side of the self as defined by Jung in his dream definitions. Elliot and Claris, who have strayed from the dream world, originated from Jung’s Animus and Anima. Persona items that appear in the Wii version originate from Jung's dream theory, too.
Dreams in NiGHTS are Dreamworlds and Parallel Realities
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...17717/Mean_Machines_SEGA_44_UK_Parallel_2.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...88078/Mean_Machines_SEGA_44_UK_Parallel_3.png
It's from this link, there was also some additional scans where they also had a brief history on dreaming (which included different philosophies and gods of dreams) interestingly enough.
https://retrocdn.net/images/7/76/MeanMachinesSega44UK.pdf
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...48136/Mean_Machines_SEGA_44_UK_Parallel_4.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...11722/Mean_Machines_SEGA_44_UK_Parallel_5.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...71260/Mean_Machines_SEGA_44_UK_Parallel_6.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823056393665904651/1030550498840940604/unknown.png
Dreams contain dreamworlds (and NiGHTS exists in Sonic)
夢の世界を舞台にした 『NiGHTS』とのコラボステージ。
ソニックの夢の中に、 ナイトメアンと六鬼衆たちが現れる!
色を奪われた夢の世界を救い出せ!
A collaborative stage with "NiGHTS" set in a dream world.
In Sonic's dream, Nightmarean and the Six Demons appear!
Rescue the dream world deprived of color!
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/945033918036459531/1061125749014278194/IMG_2763.jpg
(Extras: Legend Of Zelda and Yoshi's worlds exist in the Sonic-Verse
任天堂の大人気シリーズ 「ゼルダの伝説」の世界が『ソニックロストワールド』に登場!
謎を解き明かし、神殿に眠るトライフォースを探し出せ!
今、伝説の舞台を「音速の勇者」が駆け巡る!
The world of Nintendo's popular series "The Legend of Zelda" is coming to "Sonic Lost World"!
Solve the mystery and find the Triforce that lies in the temple!
Now, the "hero of the speed of sound" runs around the legendary stage!
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/945033918036459531/1061124604812333096/IMG_2765.jpg
任天堂の人気キャラクター「ヨッシー」と夢の共演!
パッチワークのような明るく楽しい世界を、ソニックがヨッシーのタマゴを探して走りまわる。
Dream collaboration with Nintendo's popular character "Yoshi"!
Sonic runs around the bright and fun patchwork-like world in search of Yoshi's eggs.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/945033918036459531/1061124690669735946/IMG_2764.jpg )
Nightopians are born every time Ideya collide as well. Balls of light are Ideya so Sun and others balls of light are Ideya?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965834954573496363/1060058501029830697/image.png
Nightopians and Nightmarens are born from Light and Darkness
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823056393665904651/1060108112952049696/latest.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/965834954573496363/1060058501327638608/image.png
Keep in mind Light is infinite in Sonic.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823056393665904651/1060062084206960651/IMG_2370-1.jpg
Nightopians and Nightmarens create dreams and nightmares
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1059626659122262026/1059629829596643338/image.png
The 2nd tier Nightmaren can create worlds
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823056393665904651/1060064292910665748/latest.png
So there would be an infinite number of nightmarens and nightopians that can create worlds even if a fraction of them created worlds it should be noted that a fraction of infinity is still infinity.
Keep in mind NiGHTS was stated to have endless dreams in its world
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...00/1056727280119988345/Nights_Print_Ad_KR.png
^ it says
자유롭게 하늘을 날며, 끝없는 꿈속의 환상세계로 모험을 떠나자! 환상적인 그래픽 박진감 넘치는 액션- 3차원 액션게임 나이츠
Which means
Fly freely in the sky and embark on an adventure into the fantasy world of endless dreams! Fantastic graphics Exciting action - 3D action Game NiGHTS
It is from a Korean ad poster
https://segaretro.org/NiGHTS_into_Dreams/Promotional_material
So there’s an Infinite number of dreams in Sonic/NiGHTS.
Eitaro Toyota implies my claim about The Phantom Ruby not being restricted by dimensionality (and the possibility that it transcends the concept of dimensions as a question) is an insight into the Phantom Ruby’s nature https://twitter.com/tylerreneem/status/1592937788936450048?s=46&t=jB1WCRWEINwkwefiSBoXoA and https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1594188408515354624?s=46&t=jB1WCRWEINwkwefiSBoXoA
Eitaro Toyoda confirms Null Space is a place where Scientific Approaches aren’t possible.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1049816765959516170/image.png
^ He said
それについては、エッグマンが敗走しインフィニット も消息が絶えた今、 わからなくなってしまいました エッグマンがああまで言うからには、科学的なアプ ローチでは出られない場所だったのでしょう 「無」の定義自体、とても難しいテーマです。いつか エッグマン本人から解説してもらいたいですね
Google says
About that, now that Eggman has been defeated and Infinite has disappeared, I don't know. From what Eggman said, it must have been a place where a scientific approach would not be possible. The definition of "nothingness" itself is a very difficult subject. I'd like to see Eggman himself explain it someday
DeepL says
We don't know that now that Eggman has been defeated and Infinite has disappeared. Eggman's statement to the contrary suggests that there was no scientific approach to getting out of the place. The definition of "nothingness" itself is a very difficult subject. I would love to have Eggman himself explain it to us someday.
Romajidesu says
As for that, now that Eggman has been defeated and Infinite has disappeared, I've lost track of it. If Eggman goes so far as to say so, it must have been a place where a scientific approach would not be possible. The definition of "nothingness" itself is a very difficult subject. I'd like to see Eggman himself explain it someday.
Shiro Maekawa liked my tweet basically confirming whether or not Eggman and Eggman Nega were using the Chaos Emeralds and Sol Emeralds to create an Eggman Land that transcends the concepts of dimensions
ソニック ラッシュ』では、カオスエメラルドとソルエメラルドを使って次元の概念を超えたエッグマンランドを作ろうとするエッグマンとエッグマンネガに対して、ソニックとブレイズが協力してそれぞれの世界を救うところでゲームが終わっています。ということでよろしいでしょうか。
Which means
In "Sonic Rush," the game ends with Sonic and Blaze working together to save their respective worlds against Eggman and Eggman Nega, who are trying to create an Eggman Land that transcends dimensional concepts using the Chaos Emeralds and Sol Emeralds. Is that correct?
And here: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1038939876214718594/IMG_2923.png and https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1038939876558647367/IMG_2924.png
^ Shiro Maekawa likes my tweet confirming it.
Transfinite Numbers/Mathematics and The Concepts of Parallel Universes in Sonic https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/951340955284406323/IMG_1082.png
^^^ right there James Wallis confirmed String Theory and Quantum Mechanics was in the book and that Transfinite Numbers/Cardinals came from Rudy Ruckers Infinity and The Mind https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/715638914328559678/image0.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/715638914760704100/image1.png
And according to Rudy Rucker’s Infinity and The Mind, Large Cardinals are part of it (plus The Mindscape). https://www.rudyrucker.com/infinityandthemind/
James Wallis States That The Martin Adams Sonic Books is set in the universe of Sonic 1 and 2 and that it is exists in the same continuity as the games https://twitter.com/jameswallis/status/1546245937550475264?s=21&t=PrSNR58y-ZVkEnHfwPKA_Q
Eitaro Toyoda confirms All Mathematical Concepts of Sequences and Sets exist in Sonic. https://mobile.twitter.com/YaSonicBoi1/status/1602916366775975937 and https://twitter.com/yasonicboi1/status/1603965106055811072?s=46&t=R61JncDOHu0PLaPQ6omp1A
He answers here: https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1604808318085500928?s=46&t=R61JncDOHu0PLaPQ6omp1A
^ Meaning all Transfinite Numbers/Infinite Sets exist in the verse!.
Before anyone says he said “It’s just a guess” it actually means legally valid or likely true. https://mobile-dictionary.reverso.net/en/english-definition/it's+just+a+guess https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/guess
A set is the mathematical model for a collection of different things; a set contains elements or members, which can be mathematical objects of any kind: numbers, symbols, points in space, lines, other geometrical shapes, variables, or even other sets. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_(mathematics)#:~:text=A%20set%20is%20the%20mathematical,variables%2C%20or%20even%20other%20sets.
Btw having the concepts of sets (which Sonic has) is broken
The concept of set is one that suffices as the basis on which all abstract notions in mathematics can be built
https://www.math.mcgill.ca/makkai/MATH3182007/318071S1.pdf (specifically this: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1058219946632560670/IMG_3674.png)
^ Mathematical Universe Hypothesis (aka Type/Level 4 Multiverse) is basically built from this alone lmfao.
Eitaro Toyoda implies the Concepts Of The Multiverse exist in Sonic saying it is a good subject for inspiration (meaning a brilliant idea) and that it will be hard to control https://twitter.com/tylerreneem/status/1601061572386127872?s=46&t=MyOhFUBpII47cdYVqzztCg https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1602751481496895489?s=46&t=MyOhFUBpII47cdYVqzztCg
According to Eitaro Toyoda the concepts of arithmetic and mathematics exists in the world of Sonic
https://twitter.com/tylerreneem/status/1611508597275475968?s=46&t=sd8bFXFAgDrBOrb6dlXs5g and https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1612538997733232640?s=46&t=sd8bFXFAgDrBOrb6dlXs5g
Metal Sonic has specs and functions that takes into account and operates on Mathematically Logical properties
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1059579851276820490/E6SOCP0WQAENgeS.png
The kanji in that scan is 論理演算 which means Logic Operator/Operation and is used commonly to refer to Mathematical Logic (both will be important for later and gives heavy implications)
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664653902742028300/1059280743941021766/IMG_3702.png
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Metal_Sonic
And the areas and/or branches of Mathematical Logic includes Proof Theory, Recursion Theory, Model Theory, Set Theory and etc: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_logic
https://mathematics.huji.ac.il/mathematical-logic
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_theory
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_theory
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computability_theory
Mathematical Logic is built from Logic Operators/Operations
http://web.stanford.edu/class/archive/cs/cs103/cs103.1152/lectures/07/Slides07.pdf
A logical operator (or connective) on mathematical statements is a word or combination of words that combines one or more mathematical statements to make a new mathematical statement. A compound statement is a statement that contains one or more operators. - https://math.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Mathematical_Logic_and_Proof/Book:_Mathematical_Reasoning__Writing_and_Proof_(Sundstrom)/02:_Logical_Reasoning/2.01:_Statements_and_Logical_Operators#:~:text=A logical operator (or connective,contains one or more operators.
Mathematics typically involves combining true (or hypothetically true) statements in various ways to produce (or prove) new true statements. - https://www.whitman.edu/mathematics/higher_math_online/section01.01.html
Mathematical logic is the study of formal logic within mathematics. Major subareas include model theory, proof theory, set theory, and recursion theory. Research in mathematical logic commonly addresses the mathematical properties of formal systems of logic such as their expressive or deductive power. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_logic
Basic Mathematical Logical Operators. The three logical operators used in Mathematics are: Conjunction (AND); Disjunction (OR); Negation (NOT). - https://byjus.com/maths/mathematical-logic/
Logic Operators/Operations includes the concepts of negation, implication, disjunction, conjunction, equality and etc
https://www.mathreference.org/index/page/id/58/lg/en
They are the very principles of mathematics
m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Mathematical_Proof_and_the_Principles_of_Mathematics/Logic/Logical_connectives
Logic operators/operations are called Logic connectives
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_connective
These are the categories of Logic connectives
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Logical_connectives
Which include Modal operators/logic
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_operator
Which includes the likes of modal realism (MR) and extended modal realism (EMR)
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modal_realism
m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_modal_realism
(Note: Ian Flynn confirms the concepts of logic operators/operations, mathematical logic and arithmetic exist in the world of Sonic at 3:25 of https://youtu.be/sha_ln_Q9kw)
It should also be noted that since the collective unconscious (that Sonic has) is the matrix of all metaphysical statements of all mythology and all philosophy ( here: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1015510451930533909/IMG_1929-1.png ) it would contain the concepts of modal realism and extended modal realism (plus Modal metaphysics as a whole) since they are metaphysical statements and are philosophical. There would be an infinite amount of these collective unconsciousness as well as their numbers are determined by the number of dreams/dream-worlds which are infinite.
Eitaro Toyoda also confirms the statement of The Chaos Emeralds being Super Substantials is official
https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1604787515017162752?s=46&t=R61JncDOHu0PLaPQ6omp1A
He answers here: https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1604787515017162752?s=46&t=R61JncDOHu0PLaPQ6omp1A
You're probably wondering what "Super Substance" or "SuperSubstantial" is
It basically means you’re above all substances. Substance is either the ultimate reality or underlying nature of a thing or the basic “stuff” of which things are composed (especially the world). Matter is a kind of substance as it is the underlying nature of material objects. Another example is Plato’s Forms which is a substance above the substance known as Matter (which is the way Plato refers to “Substance” in his context) and is an unchanging substance. “To account for the fundamental whatness of a thing, Plato posited an unchanging form or idea as the underlying and unchanging substance.” - https://openstax.org/books/introduction-philosophy/pages/6-1-substance#:~:text=To account for the fundamental,be located within this world. Some types of substances are listed here https://www.britannica.com/topic/substance-philosophy There are many different types of substances Material substances Immaterial substances primary substances secondary substances eternal substances (which is the ultimate reality of things like Plato’s Forms) Etc. I assume this would either grant a lot of conceptual manipulation haxxes or Outerversal due to its applications and this would particularly apply to the Chaos Emeralds since its whole gimmick is it manipulates/creates ideas and thoughts and turns them into power or forms miracles plus the fact they are super substance/super substantial outright stated in the old material. It’s a very broken thing to be classified as.
On a lesser note
Eitaro Toyoda confirms without Affirmation or Denial that The Chaos Emeralds may have the ability to affect all concepts of Space and Time https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1600850095985291264?s=46&t=kyg4r1xlWtjXhaGHDwpJyg
MaginaryWorld is a place that has dreams from every space/plane (and the universe dreams?)
支 撐 整 個 奇 妙 世 界 Maginary Whirl 的 能 量 石 Precioustones 突 然 被 邪 惡 的 Void 偷 去 ， 它 其 實 是 由 各 個 不 同 空 間 的 生 物 的 夢 想 所 組 成 ， 內 裡 包 含 了 全 宇 宙 的 願 望 。 守 護 天 使 Illumina 於 是 立 即 召 集 Sonic 及 其 他 同 伴 展 開 一 場 能 量 石 的 爭 奪 戰 ， 免 得 全 宇 宙 的 夢 想 落 入 Void 的 魔 掌 之 中 。
Which according to DeepL means
The Precioustones, the energy stones that support the Maginary Whirl, are suddenly stolen by the evil Void, and are actually composed of the dreams of beings from all different planes, containing the wishes of the entire universe. The guardian angel Illumina immediately summons Sonic and other companions to fight for the energy stone before the dreams of the universe fall into the clutches of the Void.
https://media.discordapp.net/attach...4611/1943c77d-78e6-426b-8dae-f446883144c1.png
From: https://web.archive.org/web/20010305011202/http://www.sega.com.hk/b5/info/decgame/sonic.htm
Note: You might notice that a noticeable amount of the WOG stuff (from Shiro Maekawa) is them liking my questions/posts/claims/assertions
So at first you might think “Those are likes they don’t mean much”
But they do mean something
To like something is to find it agreeable or satisfactory
And in context of social media it’s a mark of approval:
https://www.google.com/search?q=like+definition&newwindow=1&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS974US975&hl=en-US&sxsrf=ALiCzsYWAStdbWTnYAyZrvqVDkFiHaXbCQ%3A1671656769302&ei=QXWjY6DvEZqu5NoP_r67mA8&oq=like+def&gs_lcp=ChNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwEAEYADIJCCMQJxBGEPkBMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDoHCCMQ6gIQJzoECCMQJzoFCAAQkQI6EQguEIAEELEDEIMBEMcBENEDOhQILhCABBCxAxCDARDHARDRAxDUAjoLCC4QgAQQsQMQgwE6CAgAEIAEELEDOgsIABCABBCxAxCDAToECAAQQzoICAAQsQMQkQI6BwgAELEDEEM6CwguEIAEELEDENQCOgQIABADOgUILhCABEoECEEYAFD9CljgIGCPJmgDcAB4AIABmwGIAbIGkgEDNi4ymAEAoAEBsAEPwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
Particularly this:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/965834954573496363/1043956293683118260/IMG_2926.png
So these should easily apply and prove the scale does exist.
Note 1: Eitaro Toyoda agrees with the thought that Sonic lives in a world parallel to the Sega Universes
https://twitter.com/tylerreneem/status/1597489630064316416?s=46&t=rdiTz-Y6DKqANDQOAFHNDw and https://twitter.com/e_toyoda39/status/1597531670781251589?s=46&t=rdiTz-Y6DKqANDQOAFHNDw
With that comes more proof Sonic has Platonism because of Yakuza
Plato's theory of forms is mentioned and there’s mentions of a SEGA professor having Sonic among them as part of the studies with even Sonic being popular in the world.
-Yakuza like a Dragon
連回中のスタッフを
お呼びください
Staff in a row
Please call us
-From a Tails sign in Yakuza Kiwami
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/823056393665904651/1033176109921087648/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/823056393665904651/1033176110235652106/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/823056393665904651/1033176110529257592/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/823056393665904651/1033176110898348122/unknown.png
mentions stuff on an enlightenment of giving up material things, it also mentions transcendental beauty
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/823056393665904651/1062562286318915624/image.png
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ionRGzrtpDo&ab_channel=SteelOfBallsMoments
The transcendentals (Latin: transcendentalia, from transcendere "to exceed") are the properties of being, nowadays commonly considered to be truth, beauty, and goodness[citation needed]. The concept arose from medieval scholasticism. Viewed ontologically, the transcendentals are understood to be what is common to all beings. From a cognitive point of view, they are the "first" concepts, since they cannot be logically traced back to something preceding them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendentals
