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Who can beat this smurf team?

The Yncarne/GEoM is probably your best bet, with the former having better EE than the GEoM (which is so strong that 1-A's can't stop it) and is basically immune to most hax (the chaos gods can't do anything about him or even look at him)

Yakou: this may be a difficult fight tbh, since his precog is some bullshit, but i highly doubt all of his life stuff can overpower Yncarne's death stuff. Although, looking at Yncarne soul is a VERY bad idea and will probably kill him on the spot. Also, Yakou, if he existed in W40K, due to a bunch of shit i barely understand tbh, would end up killing all eldar (and everything else but whatever), which would then summon Ynnead and he would probably get poofed instantly.

Reinhard:

Reinhard throws his spear

Yncarene exists

Reinhard gets like 6 Final Deaths simultainiously


Cain: really only depends on whether Yncarne can either: kill the presense (unlikely tbh) or somehow negate his type 8 immortality (he could probably do this, but he'd probably have to deal with the presense on his ass for trying to kill Cain)

Jill: See above

All at once: Yncarne flexes rapidly (2 of them can't even hurt him and are just difficult to kill, the other 2 are actually pretty threatening, but Yncarne should win with mid-high difficulty)
 
ZacharyGrossman273 said:
The Emperor resists Fate manipulation from two 1-As at once
and Ynnead/Yncarne (Yncarne, basically an absurdly weaked version of Ynnead, is unable to be looked upon by the chaos gods and is anathema to the warp as a whole) stomps them, the other 2 chaos gods and GEoM easily.

@sand from what i can tell, jill is basically cain but she actually gets powers from the whole thing, and it still depends on whether Yncarne can take attacks from the presense/Basaros (they should be comparable if i'm reading it correctly)
 
SchroKatze said:
Reinhard's and Yakou's 1-A shit is above WH40k.
they are their tier 4/5 versions, which do have 1-A hax that is probably above W40K's, but neither have resistance ot death manip (Yncarne's death manip is mirrored on all parts of it's targets being, such as parts it would use to otherwise come back), Reinhard has worse regen (the same with Gladsheimr (Yakou has no specified regen)), Yncarne is straight up immune to mind manip and resistant to basically everything else iirc
 
Reinhard can easily ressurrect and "lol type 8". Gladsheimr is a singularity and a new law. Rein's tier 4 version is constantly evolving into a Hadou God, which in turn consumes everything around him with his Law.
 
SchroKatze said:
Reinhard can easily ressurrect and "lol type 8". Gladsheimr is a singularity and a new law. Rein's tier 4 version is constantly evolving into a Hadou God, which in turn consumes everything around him with his Law.
he's tier 5 now, but the version used isn't a Hadou god, and the fight would need to go on for very long in order for that to happen iirc

EDIT: he's tier 4 and 5 now (new key)
 
he's tier 5 now, but the version used isn't a Hadou god, and the fight would need to go on for very long in order for that to happen iirc

Nope. Theres no specification on which key is being used, which brings SBA into play. Also, his growth takes an hour or two at most
 
Anything caught in range is consumed by his Law, so unless Ynnead has a really good Law Manipulation resistance, he is now a part of Reinhard
 
Well thats a problem, since if we use 1-A Reinhard/Yakou, this isn't a smurf match anymore, it's just a 1-A battle royale

Also, speed being = makes this basically a hax-off, and should, imo, be changed
 
Something bothers me, Can Ynnead/Yncarne or GEoM use his power without Warp?

For what I know about Warhammer 40k these guys are Psyker, they draw power from Warp, And from last revision about Reinhard, he gains an ability to detach battlefield to outside universe.
 
Nobody below 1-A. Yakou alone inconclusived with the emprah, having to fght the other 3 alongside him is not going to go well. Presence and Masada are stronger 1-As than emprah and Ynnead as is.
 
Also remember that the Yncarne lost to Ahzek Ahriman once, and yakou should have the ability to do exactly what he did.
 
PsychoWarper said:
Umm question whats smurf mean.
a character that has a low tier listed (like 8), but has hax that is far more powerful than that (like literally every Masadaverse character)
 
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