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Doesn't matter he would still speed blitz the loli
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Tier 1 and 2 characters that beat Xeno Goku or vice versa
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She has no plot hax or madness. Can interact with it, and Goku can summon Chronoa (very common move) which has Time Power in layers, as well as he has a defensive RE for almost everything Shallow has.
So why does she beat Goku?
Killerdrone123
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Also remove monika and satsuki from goku's loose section goku would speed blitz both of them and goku can interact with monika
Fezzih_007
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Weird, last time i checked she did have
But then again, i might be confusing with her WN version.
Ok, i gonna change then.
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WN version's plot hax is 7D possibly 1-A bruhh
Fezzih_007
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I using her Low 1-C version.
Vietthai96
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Low 1-C version is LN version, WN have Low 1-C version, but it is 6D iirc, however the plot hax which is The Epilogue is 7D smurf, possibly 1-AI using her Low 1-C version.
Fezzih_007
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Well, It says in the page for the verse that the key i using she is 5D, and in her page It says most If her abilities are 5D.
Still, If her plot hax is the only thing that she have that is Smurf, she can stay.
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Speaking of which, this one has to go through the layer evaluation thread.
Furthermore, she has immortality at least 1-C. So I don't see why she would be in this topic (which seems to be only 5-D) since they have 1-C things without possibly being.
Fezzih_007
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True
You wording is a little confusing, you asking why she is here, If i said i not listing people who are above 5D who beat Goku? Because, yeah that's true i doing that, but If she only have 2 hax that are above 5D, i don't see why i should remove her.
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The list still ain’t updated?
Excellence616
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Because I solo
FoxySonicMaster108
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John Egbert and Caliborn would probably beat Xeno Goku. Hell, I actually think Caliborn murder stomps him with his passives.
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It was, what you mean?
Can you elaborate what exactly they can do?
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Outerversal level smurfs, with Caliborn's stuff being passive.
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I thought we agreed to remove Monika and Sayori say. Looks at watch… two weeks ago
FoxySonicMaster108
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Caliborn has Passive 1-A Plot, Fate, Probability, and Causality hax. That just makes it so he'll win in some way, it goes as far back as his base form, but he masters it in God Tier. He also cannot be killed at all unless "Paradox Space allows it", and I'm pretty sure he obtains actual control over the narrative in God Tier.
With John Egbert on the other hand, he doesn't have passives, but he has 1-A stuff as well. He basically has time travel on crack, he can travel/teleport across the narrative which is why he can end up in places that have been erased from existence, he can change stuff in the narrative, rewriting it entirely with his actions. He can also just zap you away somewhere else if he wanted, the BFR is 1-A in range.
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I don't think we're putting 1-A guys here.
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Oh yeah and I requested a while ago these characters get added to his victory section.
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I don’t see anything Qomolangma their profile he doesn’t already have or resist.
Oh and can Goku beat arale? Probably not high godly plot.
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I don’t see anything Qomolangma their profile he doesn’t already have or resist.
Oh and can Goku beat arale? Probably not high godly plot.
FoxySonicMaster108
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They have 1-A stuff in their 2-A keys though. Nothing was said that smurfs can't be used.
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How many time immeasurable are they? Xeno Goku is like a nonilion times above baseline.
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Perhaps Loki is debatable but I see no reason how those characters are not getting screwed easilyOh yeah and I requested a while ago these characters get added to his victory section.
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The Watcher is a mysterious and powerful cosmic being who observes events that transpires throughout the multiverse. He is the narrator of the "What If...?" series, where he shows the viewer multiple alternate scenarios of the main Marvel Cinematic Universe timeline. Tier: Low 1-C Name: Uatu,[1]...
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I don’t see anything Qomolangma their profile he doesn’t already have or resist.
Oh and can Goku beat arale? Probably not high godly plot.
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Well Caliborn's power retroactively rewrite the narrative, time, and a bunch of other stuff on a 1-A level to ensure that he will always have been guaranteed victory and any possibility where that isn't the case get deemed non-canon and unravels. Meanwhile, John can time travel, except it's not just time but the entire narrative; including a bunch of confusing stuff about canon and non-canon, and timelines that have already been retconed and replaced by new timelines and a bunch of other fun stuff.
Fezzih_007
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Yeah, i allowing Smurf, because is mostly not cut and dried like If the character is 6D all around.
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FoxySonicMaster108
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I'm not sure what the scaling on the speed is. But most God Tiers scale to Bec Noir in speed, and Caliborn is said to be faster than that, with Post Retcon Powers John being comparable since he actually beat him up once. But passives on Caliborn's side probably render the speed advantage kind of irrelevant. Also Caliborn & John both have immortality, so that's a problem.
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Oh okay you should probably put their actual names so it’s less confusing. I guess that the DDLC characters are the only thing that needs changing.
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Fezzih_007
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I assuming that is for the L section for Goku.
FoxySonicMaster108
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Caliborn and John Egbert gotta be added to the list too, from what I can see, Xeno Goku cannot do anything to neither of them.
Fezzih_007
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Btw, can you give me a joke about them, so the list is more funny?
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Yes.
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FoxySonicMaster108
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For Caliborn, just make it I-AM-YOUR-LORD
I don’t have a funny one for John, so ig just make it “jake stuffed in a blue windsock”
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Nobody said he nukes everything. Moot point.
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Continue damaging the flow of time and eventually you’ll nuke basically everything
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The effect SSJ4 Goku has on time is effectively unknown. So it's not really much of a point in your favor. We just know his Ki's influence can extend that far.
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Fair
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