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I could very well be misremembering but didn’t Feath mention something about Piece Maria, in the domain of humans, manifesting an internal gameboard? I imagine that counts for something towards human domain r>f.
 
Catzlaflame said:
I could very well be misremembering but didn’t Feath mention something about Piece Maria, in the domain of humans, manifesting an internal gameboard? I imagine that counts for something towards human domain r>f.
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Yep, she did, though pretty sure that was just an analogy to her mindset, in which Sakutaro stopped existing because she (Maria) accepted him as dead.

Kinda similar to when Dlanor and Erika discussed the gameboard of the infidelity of Erika's ex in the 6th game
 
Ovy7 said:
Won't that be a downwards hierachy? Cause if so, the Human Domain already has those (Higanbana).
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Indeed it would, but it would be supporting evidence of the idea that game-boards can exist within game-boards — which would go a long way in proving high-1A witch domain.

On that note, with your current proposal, would this mean that ep 8 cast would get a High-1A key for manifesting in the COB
 
There are other things that can qualify the Witch Domain as H1-A. For example, the Depths of Oblivion, which weren't mentioned in the thread, but envelops the entire hierarch of the Witch Domain. I imagine that for now the main focus is to put Umineko as a whole back at H1-A and after that revise The profiles P&A, so this can be left for later.
 
I just realized about restrictions that's fewer in the higher layer in Witch domain. However, if Featherine's study/City of books are still bounded by restrictions even if they're above and outside of the witch domain?

It seems a contradiction when Featherine is outside/above the hierachy but still have the restriction but only Creator are freed from all restrictions
 
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I'm planning on using Battler Ushiromiya or Erika Furudo in a fight that's actually betting. How (and how much) do they use plot manip (this Truth thing for Battler and Detective Authority for Erika)? How do they work?
 
Battler's Truth is one of his first move alongside his Endless Nine, he uses it to counter anything non-scientific like he did against Higanbana

Erika's Plot Manipulation is passive as long as she's proclaimed to be the detective. So, as long as she has the detective authority, she has passive plot manipulation (she can proclaim to have it at any time, though).
Nekobako said:
I just realized about restrictions that's fewer in the higher layer in Witch domain. However, if Featherine's study/City of books are still bounded by restrictions even if they're above and outside of the witch domain?

It seems a contradiction when Featherine is outside/above the hierachy but still have the restriction but only Creator are freed from all restrictions
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Pretty sure Wankbreaker answered that on the thread already. Don't have time to search the comment, though.
Kaiou1991 said:
Are there any plans to revamp the powers and abilities sections on the profiles?
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Not in my part, from now. I think I heard Ovy was working on them, though I'm not sure
 
Now that I think of it, I wonder if we could get some short of 1-A to the Human Domain? Or, at least, give the pieces a 1-A key to their "higher world" key.

The place where pieces fight within the Human Domain making usage of the Red and Blue Truth acts as a meta-like space from which reasonings are made to discuss the events of the tale. Also notice that said Beato is just piece Beato, compared to her higher plane self which was in coma during that game. It is even said she is a piece compared to Lambdadelta even from within said meta-like space

This isn't that much inconsistent either, since truths cannot be used in the Human World. I remember it being said in the main 8 chapters, though maybe it is a Mandela effect.

Though in a promotional manga of Golden Fantasia it is explicitely stated anyway.

Btw, if it wasn't clear enough, this supports even more 1-A Witch Domain
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
Now that I think of it, I wonder if we could get some short of 1-A to the Human Domain? Or, at least, give the pieces a 1-A key to their "higher world" key.

The place where pieces fight within the Human Domain making usage of the Red and Blue Truth acts as a meta-like space from which reasonings are made to discuss the events of the tale. Also notice that said Beato is just piece Beato, compared to her higher plane self which was in coma during that game. It is even said she is a piece compared to Lambdadelta even from within said meta-like space

This isn't that much inconsistent either, since truths cannot be used in the Human World. I remember it being said in the main 8 chapters, though maybe it is a Mandela effect.

Though in a promotional manga of Golden Fantasia it is explicitely stated anyway.

Btw, if it wasn't clear enough, this supports even more 1-A Witch Domain
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we just should use that higurashi mei scans tbh
 
It seems there is some people working on it in the 07th expansion Wiki discord. Sad I can't help since my knowledge over japanese and vn programming is null
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
Now that I think of it, I wonder if we could get some short of 1-A to the Human Domain? Or, at least, give the pieces a 1-A key to their "higher world" key.

The place where pieces fight within the Human Domain making usage of the Red and Blue Truth acts as a meta-like space from which reasonings are made to discuss the events of the tale. Also notice that said Beato is just piece Beato, compared to her higher plane self which was in coma during that game. It is even said she is a piece compared to Lambdadelta even from within said meta-like space

This isn't that much inconsistent either, since truths cannot be used in the Human World. I remember it being said in the main 8 chapters, though maybe it is a Mandela effect.

Though in a promotional manga of Golden Fantasia it is explicitely stated anyway.

Btw, if it wasn't clear enough, this supports even more 1-A Witch Domain
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Although truths cannot be used in the Human Domain, Featherine used a Red Truth in the manga
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
Yeah, but Featherine is something else. She writes the script as she wants
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Do you have the scans mentioning that the Truths can be only used in the Witch Domain?

Because this is actually a supporting evidence for FAA transcendence over both domains. The fact that she can break such a rule/law that even voyagers must follow so casually.
 
I might be confusing myself, but didn't Battler actually use a Blue Truth while in the Human Domain against Erika? And so does the Eiserne Jungfrau with Red Truths?
 
They were in the higher plane I was talking before. Which, as I said, is treated as a meta-space compared to the gameboard in which the plot happen.

The only possible contradiction of that statement may be when Erika proclaimed to be the detective with the Red Truth in episode 5. Though you could just say that is an exception to the rule, due to it being Erika accepting the role of being a detective
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
Now that I think of it, I wonder if we could get some short of 1-A to the Human Domain? Or, at least, give the pieces a 1-A key to their "higher world" key.

The place where pieces fight within the Human Domain making usage of the Red and Blue Truth acts as a meta-like space from which reasonings are made to discuss the events of the tale. Also notice that said Beato is just piece Beato, compared to her higher plane self which was in coma during that game. It is even said she is a piece compared to Lambdadelta even from within said meta-like space

This isn't that much inconsistent either, since truths cannot be used in the Human World. I remember it being said in the main 8 chapters, though maybe it is a Mandela effect.

Though in a promotional manga of Golden Fantasia it is explicitely stated anyway.

Btw, if it wasn't clear enough, this supports even more 1-A Witch Domain
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If this gets accepted, then Game Masters having R>F over their gameboard is blatant, since Battler when he became a Game Master could create a higher plane (like the one where the debates take place) beyond the Meta-World where he created Chick Beatrice
 
エウアのいる空間は、全知にして万能なる彼女の偉大さに
The space in which Eua exists is filled with the greatness of her omniscient and all-powerful self.
エウアのいる空間は、全知にして万能なる彼女の偉大さには相応しくないほどに殺風景である。
The space Eua is in is so barren that it is unbecoming of her greatness, who is omniscient and omnipotent.
カケラの海にぞんざいに浮かべた床と、その上にほんのいくつかの洋風家具を置いただけなのだ。
It was just a floor floating roughly in a sea of fragments and a few pieces of Western-style furniture placed on top of it.
望めば、山より高い荘厳な宮殿も、地の彼方まで広がる庭園も、瞬きひとつで生み出せるのに、である。
If you wanted, you could create a majestic palace higher than a mountain or a garden that stretches to the far reaches of the earth in the blink of an eye.
まさにこの荒涼とした光景こそが、退屈の病の、荒み切った末期症状なのだ。
This desolate scene is the harsh final symptom of the disease of boredom.
それは、どれほど偉大な魔女であっても逃れることの出来め、死のIt's a deadly disease that no matter how great a witch is, she can't escape it.
全知全能であればあるほど、神の力に近ければ近いほどに罹りやすく、抗うことが難しいのだ。
The more omniscient and omnipotent you are, and the closer you are to the power of God, the more susceptible you are to it, and the more difficult it is to resist it.
だからこそ。神なる者は存在しないのだ。全知全能であるならばこそ、この病に罹り、カケラの海に沈んで藻屑と消える。
That's why. God does not exist. If you are omniscient and omnipotent, you will contract this disease, sink into the sea of fragments, and disappear into dust.
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I realized about the last sentence when she said that God/Creator doesn't exist but it's just the same context as Nep1 from Meta-Being physiology
so we should bring a Creator profile again due to this reasoning?
 
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We shouldn't, actually. Now that I think about it, it would be really funny to spread the misinformation about "Creator is a rank of witches" a lil bit longer
 
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