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Thanks.The thread got missed in just a few days.
Keeping this brief, I would be fine if the criteria were based on KLOL506's updated criteria above.
What's left?Bump
Basically, wording the criteria for tackling the power-scaling aspect of non-UES stuff which basically allows them to qualify if they follow the same criteria as UES.What's left?
Are these situations extensive enough that we can't just say "if it meets the UES conditions without explicitly being one, it should be considered a UES for the character in question"Basically, wording the criteria for tackling the power-scaling aspect of non-UES stuff which basically allows them to qualify if they follow the same criteria as UES.
Are these situations extensive enough that we can't just say "if it meets the UES conditions without explicitly being one, it should be considered a UES for the character in question"
Seems like it.Ok so we've decided to use KLOL's rewording? In that case, after that edit is made could we add the proposed page to the Wiki?
Sweet. gimme a secSeems like it.
Perhaps we can have the criteria but add a note at the bottom linking to the Creation Feats page for more elaboration?I'm still not fully sure on how we should add Criteria 7. It's very specifically tailored for Creation Feats in general and me personally I think it fits better on the Creation Feats page (Specifically the types of evidence one would use to qualify for the criteria). Should we just add this criteria to the Creation Feats page and then link to the UES page beside it?
Sure, I guess.Sweet. gimme a sec
Perhaps we can have the criteria but add a note at the bottom linking to the Creation Feats page for more elaboration?
I think its excellent, both detailed and comprehensible."Scaling a person's unique individual supernatural power (Like a genetic mutation for example) connected to a separate individual's internal energy source to their physical strength is a case-by-case basis. If the character qualifies the above criteria used to determine the validity of scaling UES-based feats to one physicals, it can be safely assumed that the character's unique abilities scale to his own physical strength as well. If not, it would be safer to assume that the person's abilities scale above their physical strength unless proven otherwise via powerscaling."
Done. New draft has been edited to our specifications.I think its excellent, both detailed and comprehensible.
Usually in most verses the superpower is connected to the character's stamina source which in turn also influences the character's physical attacks, but I suppose I wouldn't be above adding some additional info about connecting to the character's own energy source and their own physical strength.I'd expect that it's pretty rare that a person's unique individual supernatural power would be connected to a different individual's energy source, and then to some individual's physical strength. Is that really something worth mentioning? Shouldn't that text more talk about connecting to the own character's energy source and their own physical strength?
I bolded my problem I have with your wording."Scaling a person's unique individual supernatural power (Like a genetic mutation for example) connected to a separate individual's internal energy source to their physical strength is a case-by-case basis. If the character qualifies the above criteria used to determine the validity of scaling UES-based feats to one physicals, it can be safely assumed that the character's unique abilities scale to his own physical strength as well. If not, it would be safer to assume that the person's abilities scale above their physical strength unless proven otherwise via powerscaling."
Oh, that?Let me just quote your post:
I bolded my problem I have with your wording.
It implies that this applies when there are two characters, character A and character B.
Character A has a unique individual super power, which is connected to character B's internal energy source, which is connected to the physical strength of one of those characters.
I'd expect most cases to not have a second character, so to have the wording based around there being two characters is really weird.
It being a note is better. Fits in line with the non-UES stuff.Might have been addressed before but I’m thinking of adding a note for verses with multiple magic or schools of power system.
Basically character A fits all the criteria but his power has entirely different properties from the majority of the verse, whom don’t fit the criteria. Surely it wouldn’t be fair to use Character A to make everyone else fit the criteria right, ignoring their own properties
Granted this is more for verses with multiple types of magic ala the Marvel universe or even stuff like God of War (you have the magic of Greece, the Runes and the Seior magic). I don’t know whether this should be a factor or if this should just be a note; what y’all think?
Speaking of this, a quick question about the power system of Devil May Cry.Done. New draft has been edited to our specifications.
Both are used interchangeable as terms throughout series.Why it is called Demonic Energy, when instead its referred as Magic
I wouldn't make that broad of a comparison. Though there are many fundamental similarities, demonic energy and magic for all intents and purposes are same, differences are trivial.So its something akin to God of War? Magic be the actual power system, while Godly Energy of the gods/demigods/mythical creatures its what powering up.
This probably needs to be made in a staff thread. The thread is too long to make sense of it, and since it is about a wiki-wide standard, most of the staff members need to participate, which I don't see in this thread.What are the staff and honorary staff (Agnaa and KLOL506) conclusions regarding the suggestions here so far?
Okay. That is fine with me. Are any staff or honorary staff members here willing to create such a thread, which explains the relevant arguments so far in the first post?This probably needs to be made in a staff thread. The thread is too long to make sense of it, and since it is about a wiki-wide standard, most of the staff members need to participate, which I don't see in this thread.
@KLOL506 and @Agnaa are most aware of topic at hand, along with staff members @DarkDragonMedeus and @UchihaSlayer96Okay. That is fine with me. Are any staff or honorarystaff members here willing to create such a thread, which explains the relevant arguments so far in the first post?
On the new staff thread from looks of it. So you'll need permission after it is created.Do I still get to make my final comment on it tho?
I guess you can make a final comment when it is made.Do I still get to make my final comment on it tho?
I can contact the staff members that agreed with my original response to check out the new draft then.This probably needs to be made in a staff thread. The thread is too long to make sense of it, and since it is about a wiki-wide standard, most of the staff members need to participate, which I don't see in this thread.
Colonel Krukov, Elizhaa, KingTempest, LordGriffin, Glassman, UchihaSlayer, DemonGodMitchAubin and DDM were all present to give a response to my original response to Hellbeast's draft and to the new one. Bambu also gave kudos to my original response, I believe.This probably needs to be made in a staff thread. The thread is too long to make sense of it, and since it is about a wiki-wide standard, most of the staff members need to participate, which I don't see in this thread.
Well technically it's Hellbeast's draft, I just got editing access and added a bunch of the criteria I proposed and somesuch.KLOL506 has made new draft taking into account new arguements after the discussion and its conclusion. So he is most suited for the job.