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Warhammer 40,000: Discussione Generalis III
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@Azzy
Question:
I was reading on Eldar Mythology today, and I came to wonder...
Did Eldanesh and Ulthanesh actually exist or is the Eldar War in Heaven 100% mythical?
Question:
I was reading on Eldar Mythology today, and I came to wonder...
Did Eldanesh and Ulthanesh actually exist or is the Eldar War in Heaven 100% mythical?
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@Az i found the Black Legion book!!!
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@Matt
Eldanesh and Ulthanesh were almost certainly real people, but we don't know exactly which parts of their stories are literal and which parts are meant to be allegory. For instance, Khaine and the Nightbringer's fight actually happened, but parts of it are spoken more allegorically than literally (ex. "Kaelis Ra cannot truly die, for it is death incarnate.").
@Morkar
Post it, if you wish.
Eldanesh and Ulthanesh were almost certainly real people, but we don't know exactly which parts of their stories are literal and which parts are meant to be allegory. For instance, Khaine and the Nightbringer's fight actually happened, but parts of it are spoken more allegorically than literally (ex. "Kaelis Ra cannot truly die, for it is death incarnate.").
@Morkar
Post it, if you wish.
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@Az i am sorry for annoying, but i think i found the PDF
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Is...this related to Nobledark Imperium?
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Yes. That's the design of the Emperor in it.
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Interesting. Like the suit.
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Nobledark Imperium is a very interesting setting, I would say. Probably the best out of all the Warhammer AU fanfics.
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That's quite high praise, considering a good number of them are pretty damn well thought out.
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Well, I don't know many of them.
It's basically Warhammer 40,000 that we know of, but:
1) Scaled is generally dialed back a bit (Barely any higher-dimensional shenanigans and whatnot), to make characters such as the Emperor seem more human and relatable
2) People don't make stupid decisions like not telling their sons about the existence of the Ruinous Powers or why you're leaving the Crusade
3) A lot of backstories are changed, mostly in regards to the Emperor and the Primarchs. Basically, as I think you can infer from the Emperor's look, they are much more brilliant military leaders and tacticians than living gods destroying entire armies, though the Emperor can be the later too.
4) Also, Aliance of the Imperium with Xenos is possible and happens, since Horus Heresy didn't occur and Isha is Emprah's waifu
It's basically Warhammer 40,000 that we know of, but:
1) Scaled is generally dialed back a bit (Barely any higher-dimensional shenanigans and whatnot), to make characters such as the Emperor seem more human and relatable
2) People don't make stupid decisions like not telling their sons about the existence of the Ruinous Powers or why you're leaving the Crusade
3) A lot of backstories are changed, mostly in regards to the Emperor and the Primarchs. Basically, as I think you can infer from the Emperor's look, they are much more brilliant military leaders and tacticians than living gods destroying entire armies, though the Emperor can be the later too.
4) Also, Aliance of the Imperium with Xenos is possible and happens, since Horus Heresy didn't occur and Isha is Emprah's waifu
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the **** u just say to meMatthew Schroeder said:
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Okay, so in Nobledark Imperium, The Emperor is last remainying of the Man of Gold, a group of incredibly-advanced psychic-cyborgs made in the Dark Age of Technoloy, designed to manipulate the Warp itself to allow for nearly instantaneous FTL travel. Malcador found The Emperor, serial name Oscar, and activated it.
So since Nobledark Emperor is specifically a man-made entity who's not that old in terms of life compared to the Real Emperor who's an immortal Warp god incarnated, he simply... Lacks knowledge of the Warp initially. He understands what it basically is and knows the threat of Chaos, but he lacks infomation on the deepr specifics.
Because of this, he actively seeks an alliance with the Eldar during the Great Crusade, because he's a reasonably minded non-xenophobic person unlike every human in 40K, since they are a millions old species with ancient archives filled with knowledge that no human could ever hope to obtain otherwise. The Eldar, who here have their arrogance downplayed but their sorrow and regret played up, are reluctant at first. Eldrad Ulthran comes to talk with the Emperor, and they discuss a way to form an alliance.
The two come to the conclusion that the best way to gain the favor of the Eldar would be to return the last survivor of their old pantheon to them, and so The Emperor + Eldrad + A fuckton of armies storm the Warp through the Eye of Terror, Empreror + Eldrad punch Nurgle in the face, (I told you the power levels are nerfed) and rescue Isha who incarnates in the material world. After this happens, Eldrad basically insists that the Emperor and Isha make a political marriage, because that would guarantee that the Human / Eldar alliance would last forever. And so they do, and have ruled the Imperium ever since.
So since Nobledark Emperor is specifically a man-made entity who's not that old in terms of life compared to the Real Emperor who's an immortal Warp god incarnated, he simply... Lacks knowledge of the Warp initially. He understands what it basically is and knows the threat of Chaos, but he lacks infomation on the deepr specifics.
Because of this, he actively seeks an alliance with the Eldar during the Great Crusade, because he's a reasonably minded non-xenophobic person unlike every human in 40K, since they are a millions old species with ancient archives filled with knowledge that no human could ever hope to obtain otherwise. The Eldar, who here have their arrogance downplayed but their sorrow and regret played up, are reluctant at first. Eldrad Ulthran comes to talk with the Emperor, and they discuss a way to form an alliance.
The two come to the conclusion that the best way to gain the favor of the Eldar would be to return the last survivor of their old pantheon to them, and so The Emperor + Eldrad + A fuckton of armies storm the Warp through the Eye of Terror, Empreror + Eldrad punch Nurgle in the face, (I told you the power levels are nerfed) and rescue Isha who incarnates in the material world. After this happens, Eldrad basically insists that the Emperor and Isha make a political marriage, because that would guarantee that the Human / Eldar alliance would last forever. And so they do, and have ruled the Imperium ever since.
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"After this happens, Eldrad basically insists that the Emperor and Isha make a political marriage, because that would guarantee that the Human / Eldar alliance would last forever."
Just as planned.
Just as planned.
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So basically, Nobledark Imperium is one giant excuse to allow for human/eldar writefaggotry. a pretty neat AU.
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>giant excuse to allow human/eldar writefaggotry
>pretty neat AU
>pretty neat AU
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Also, since Horus Heresy didn't happened, the great war that nearly destroyed the Imperium was a Chaos Empowered War of the Beast.
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That's metal as ****, dude.
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@Matt did you give the pdf and epub to dear Az?
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GUYS! THE TYPHUS MODEL HAS BEEN REVEALED:
Source A40kAuthor
oh and new art as well
i found context why the updates
Source A40kAuthor
oh and new art as well
i found context why the updates
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New Death Guard Codex be coming.
Edit: Heck Gorkamorka beat me to it.
Edit: Heck Gorkamorka beat me to it.
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Question. How do the Necrons play?
Because Ancient Egyptian Space Terminators just appeal to me on a fundamental level
Because Ancient Egyptian Space Terminators just appeal to me on a fundamental level
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@Morkar
The style looks in-line with the current one, and the guy's a professional artist, so I'm pretty sure it is. Looks great, too.
@Monarch
Necrons play a lot like the Terminator. They're kinda slow, but if they get close enough to shoot you, you're dead. Most actual Necrons in the army have the ability the revive themselves from the dead as long as the whole unit isn't wiped out, and single characters or constructs can usually heal themselves. Different non-necron units (vehicles, wraith constructs, C'tan shards, etc.) can add different things to your army.
The style looks in-line with the current one, and the guy's a professional artist, so I'm pretty sure it is. Looks great, too.
@Monarch
Necrons play a lot like the Terminator. They're kinda slow, but if they get close enough to shoot you, you're dead. Most actual Necrons in the army have the ability the revive themselves from the dead as long as the whole unit isn't wiped out, and single characters or constructs can usually heal themselves. Different non-necron units (vehicles, wraith constructs, C'tan shards, etc.) can add different things to your army.
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@Azzy
What do you think of the complaint that Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition is Age of Sigmar?
What do you think of the complaint that Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition is Age of Sigmar?
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well...if that was a complaint and was legit I would be disturbed.
Hey @Az, look what i have found (i know it is not from GW, but still)
Hey @Az, look what i have found (i know it is not from GW, but still)
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.... Khârn profile....
4/10 not disgusting enough.
MorkarBaroque said:
4/10 not disgusting enough.
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Btw why some of warhammer fans think that malal is doesn't even exist? I thought it's just a joke.
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Mala doesn't exist because he was erased from existence.
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So let me guess.. GW erase him out of existence...
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Not Jim Sterling said:
- Retcon
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Caved and bought a physical copy of Black Legio. I can't just not own the sequel to one of my favorite Black Library stories of all time. Plus, the cover art is awesome. Not to mention Aaron's purposefully shitty MS Paint rendition is incredible. I will still try and snag the digital version, as well.
Anyway, been looking for Titan feats, and found some pretty interesting stuff. A single shot from a Warlord's Plasma Destructor levels an entire ruined city just from the aftershock of it firing, which is the least impressive thing it does. Don't know if I'll find anything that can be calced at well above the Conversion Beamer, which they'll already be scaled to, but it's something.
Anyway, been looking for Titan feats, and found some pretty interesting stuff. A single shot from a Warlord's Plasma Destructor levels an entire ruined city just from the aftershock of it firing, which is the least impressive thing it does. Don't know if I'll find anything that can be calced at well above the Conversion Beamer, which they'll already be scaled to, but it's something.
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Would The Beast scale to the Ork Warboss who beat up Horus? I hear that he is the strongest Ork of all time.
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If he is confirmed to be the stronkest ork of ell tiem, I be purty darn sure an oomie cud scale em to the nob hoo beat that armless bloke.
But i'd double check if it heavily alludes that he is; with what the size of his WAAAAGH! was it might be true.
But i'd double check if it heavily alludes that he is; with what the size of his WAAAAGH! was it might be true.
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DAMMIT! Az i am so goddamn jaleous of you! i cannot buy Black Legion 
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Also in gaming news, BRING FORTH MY EXTERMINATUS .
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Probably not as strong as Gharkul Blackfang, who nearly wiped out three entire legions and their Primarchs with his armies, but the Beast(s) scales directly to Vulkan, as the two duelled to a stalemate before Vulkan basically blew the both of them up.
Probably not as strong as Gharkul Blackfang, who nearly wiped out three entire legions and their Primarchs with his armies, but the Beast(s) scales directly to Vulkan, as the two duelled to a stalemate before Vulkan basically blew the both of them up.
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@Azzy
Odd that the biggest Ork Threat in the history of the Galaxy isn't led by the strongest Ork.
Odd that the biggest Ork Threat in the history of the Galaxy isn't led by the strongest Ork.
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