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I agree that using the official art looks better, only cos most artists tend to draw there own way, so it’s better to see the original style
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Vs battles wiki pet peeves
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We're all gonna die sad and lonely while arguing who punches harder in fiction. Just face the truth
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At least I'll die doing what I kind of love sometimes not really :/
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No. No. No in the top tiers matchs is barelly who punches stronger, is instead who have more insta win BS or who sees who as a book
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Atleast i am going to die knowing that everyone here didnt archive anything
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sometimes, not really, kinda, sorta, form time to time, all the time, never, not at all, occasionally...
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If Vs Wiki is the last thing that is remaining of humanity once the sun ******* explodes or whatever, I imagine the aliens that find the archives will be pretty confused on why a bunch of grown adults wasted their time debating about which fictional character beats which fictional character lol.
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I mean, competitive power scaling is a legitimate thing, as we all know anyways.
Doing a wiki with content meant for informational purposes publically for the world is indeed productive, by your own logic we shouldn't index anything out of being irrelevant, for which being one of the most well-known wikies says otherwise.
Eh, even in cases where the official art is of low quality it should still get more priority if you ask me, otherwise we'd end up using a more "realistic" art-style made by a fan for Peppa Pig over the official... stick figure with 4 eyes.
I'm aware the site is hosted by "Fandom", which would inherently give a fan site reputation, but the problem is when headcanon is being added to pages over official content, which is what differenciates a normal wiki from a fanon one.
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’I’m leaving’ announcement pages are my biggest pet peeve.
At first, only Staff really did them, which is ok. They’re relatively important members of the wiki.
Then, normal people started to do them.
Every week now, I’m seeing an ‘I’m leaving’ announcement. It @‘s 10 people saying how much they enjoyed their company, everyone says goodbye. Then they come back a few days later because ‘oh well there’s a crt going on’ or something stupid like that.
Like, honestly, I don’t care if you leave. It sucks, but that’s life, people move on from hobbies. But don’t tell me you’re leaving, only to come back. Don’t stretch your meaty, attention-needing hands out begging for likes and validation only to come back and say ‘well ok I’m here again but I’ll leave soon’ and never leave. You may as well have said nothing at all.
At first, only Staff really did them, which is ok. They’re relatively important members of the wiki.
Then, normal people started to do them.
Every week now, I’m seeing an ‘I’m leaving’ announcement. It @‘s 10 people saying how much they enjoyed their company, everyone says goodbye. Then they come back a few days later because ‘oh well there’s a crt going on’ or something stupid like that.
Like, honestly, I don’t care if you leave. It sucks, but that’s life, people move on from hobbies. But don’t tell me you’re leaving, only to come back. Don’t stretch your meaty, attention-needing hands out begging for likes and validation only to come back and say ‘well ok I’m here again but I’ll leave soon’ and never leave. You may as well have said nothing at all.
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Wait, for real? BRUH
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YES
azontr
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I mean, now that you mention it, it sort of is a stupid thing to do lol. Bernkastelll literally just did a I'm leaving thingy a week ago maybe and now she's back for some reason 0-0
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Sometimes, fan art is our best option. For example, a frustratingly large amount of good-looking Dragon Ball renders come from Dokkan Battle and Heroes or other games of that nature. However, because the nature of these games—either mobile-only outings, region-locked to Japan, or on a platform that would be impossible to rip assets from—these renders often end up low quality which makes them practically unsalvageable. Luckily, there are some people on the internet who go through the trouble of creating their own high quality fan renders based on these low quality asset rips, and that is what we usually end up using.
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well... it's just to let friends that you left... also maybe let people know that way they won't expect you to come if you get notified for a thread or something.. though when they do come back idk
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Just draw the character art yourself.
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I’m afraid not everyone’s blessed with artistic talent.
Ik that If I was, life would be a lot easier.
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And? Just do it! Better than nothing!
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Death Battle, Animation Rewind, Seth the Programmer, etc. Some even get paid on this out of research or the argument in itself, although for the latter you're often better being a lawyer.
Those are valid points, but the problem is when such fanart isn't based on a proper official source for our purposes, but rather just how someone imagines a character looks based on non-visual explanations (let alone when there aren't any to begin with and a random image is inserted), which is a common issue in non-visual media, and I'd rather for those to not have pictures unless they're effectively approved by the author or so.
And this is leaving copyright issues over fanart at a side, as that's not a particular concern given their fair use legally speaking, so long credit is given too and they don't oppose it.
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I agree with Bobsican here about the professionalism stuff, but beyond the issue about using fanarts. And the people's perception of this wiki and forum is weird and I'd dare say even wrong.
This is a fandom wiki, much like other fandom wikis. We're not supposed to be just some random people in a random thread arguing about who would win between random characters. We index information. We make profiles from so many different verses, displaying their strengths and weaknesses, powers and abilities, as accurate as possible. Or at least, that's what we are supposed to do.
This isn't trying to act sanctimoniously and pretending to be higher and mightier hurr durr than everyone else in the battleboarding community/culture. And it is true that at the end of the day, we're all just nerds with this hobby, and we shouldn't take things that seriously, and we all joke about this things all the time. This isn't trying to be so uptight, stiffening and restricting people's behavior and the fun and informality of this hobby.
But at the end of the day, it is also true that we are contributors to a wiki, striving to inform about accurate power levels and data about these characters. And for us to achieve that goal, there must be a degree of seriousness and professionalism with regards to what we do. Just enough to make the information we put in the wiki to be as accurate, informative, and presentable as much as possible. That it would be used more reliably as a source of information, much like other fandom wiki.
I'll even go as far as to say that, besides the toxicity bred by characters vs characters debates, this point of view where we don't take indexing as seriously as we need to, breeds inaccuracy, bias and misinformation among wiki entries. Because people don't take this matters sincerely enough to care to seek validity, which can result to people just wanting to portray characters to be as strong (or weak) as possible to the point of irrationality.
This is a fandom wiki, much like other fandom wikis. We're not supposed to be just some random people in a random thread arguing about who would win between random characters. We index information. We make profiles from so many different verses, displaying their strengths and weaknesses, powers and abilities, as accurate as possible. Or at least, that's what we are supposed to do.
This isn't trying to act sanctimoniously and pretending to be higher and mightier hurr durr than everyone else in the battleboarding community/culture. And it is true that at the end of the day, we're all just nerds with this hobby, and we shouldn't take things that seriously, and we all joke about this things all the time. This isn't trying to be so uptight, stiffening and restricting people's behavior and the fun and informality of this hobby.
But at the end of the day, it is also true that we are contributors to a wiki, striving to inform about accurate power levels and data about these characters. And for us to achieve that goal, there must be a degree of seriousness and professionalism with regards to what we do. Just enough to make the information we put in the wiki to be as accurate, informative, and presentable as much as possible. That it would be used more reliably as a source of information, much like other fandom wiki.
I'll even go as far as to say that, besides the toxicity bred by characters vs characters debates, this point of view where we don't take indexing as seriously as we need to, breeds inaccuracy, bias and misinformation among wiki entries. Because people don't take this matters sincerely enough to care to seek validity, which can result to people just wanting to portray characters to be as strong (or weak) as possible to the point of irrationality.
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Can you give examples?
Cthulhu Mythos comes to mind, but a lot of the creatures there are so nebulously described in appearance that a lot of artists are given freedom to interpret them visually.
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Using Cthulu Mythos, the series with a bunch of incomprehensible cosmic deities, as an example, most likely isn't a very good idea lol.
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A simple reoccurring pet peeve I've noticed on this site is a few peeps that literally contribute next to nothing except for posting memes and/or making snide remarks on threads then they just going "incognito" for a few hours to days and repeat.
Like I don't get it?
Like I don't get it?
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Wasn't someone banned for a single joke comment about how goku solos Cthulhu Mythos? Does kinda speak volumes about the issues here
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Them posting memes doesn't seem to be an issue, but I get that the second part might be annoying.
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???
I don’t recall a scenario even similar ever happening.
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...Bob, Wikipedia is not... ah, **** it, nevermind.
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...You mean you don't use the sources that Wikipedia uses as source instead? Oldest trick in the book?
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Honestly, that's just a flaw of the educative system.My teachers and professors when I use Wikipedia as a source:
Teachers are asked to request a scientific source, and they dismiss public websites where anyone can edit on grounds of fearing vandalism compromising reliability, when there's staff moderating what goes in or not to begin with, and there being several reversing measures for when that happens, let alone how an edit has to be approved by a mod first before it turning public (Wikipedia).
There's also how the source may become outdated as the citations are replaced, even though there's a permanent link feature exactly to preserve a citation to the version of the page done at the time.
In other words, the ones making the rules are boomers and should be aware that the internet is more than a way to give classes at most.
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Oh I do lol. That's so free honestly.
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Correct. With my old phone and the shitty free internet feature my phone number provider used to give, I often mistakenly clicked the edit function in wikipedia.
It got me banned from editing for like a year or something lol
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Yea, but you're ignoring the fact that a lot of the staff members on Wikipedia are also clueless, and that some of them are really, really biased towards something. There's an infamous Wikipedia editor (infamous outside, at least, they seem to be respected for whatever reason in the Wikipedia community) who constantly vandalizes any page that's related to nazis in anyway whatsoever because "muh jewish heritage"
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wow
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Woah. Okay.
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bro uh.
this is a thread about pet peeves about the wiki itself.
Kinda weird to post your opinion on Nazi ngl.
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