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Viego Vs Shanks
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I will prepare a Solar System scale for Viego. But this is not our topic, I wrote that you should not forget that Viego is Type3 Purification. + I ask you to look at Shanks and Viego's profiles again.
(Sorry, my English is very bad.)
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Do you think it can be won with Shanks' mind manipulation? Or can the status ability be removed with viego type 3 purification hax? Many of my friends argue that Shanks will happen, but I defend Viego.Type 8 immortality
(My English is very bad, sorry.)
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Yeah mate, but I couldnt find any mentioning for him having Purification as one of his powers, just a resistance (I went through both profiles). Also, Haki doesn't have anything to do with Purification lmao
Because of..? Read the Haki page, mate.
Buso, just to begin with:
- Durability Negation and Explosion Manipulation (Can force energy inside of opponents and objects, which produces explosions inside of their body[46])
- Willpower Manipulation, Explosive Aura Burst, and Shockwave Creation (Users of this Haki are capable of manipulating their willpower into a large aura which shoots out in all directions, causing shockwaves to occasionally push others backwards and destroy the surroundings[20])
Viego cannot possibly hurt Shanks and Shanks can kill Viego but not definitely via type 8 immo
Where is this thing you're saying??
Those are all the powers Viego has (you won't see the resistances here because that's not what's being discussed right now). Where is the Purification you're talking about? Also, read the Purification page...
...I can only think that you think you can give the D and F spells to them, which then would make one of them Cleanse.
Well, you can't give them that. Nor Smite, or Flash or any of other cuz he doesn't have optional equipment and doesn't have those listed as his powers.
As I said before, Shanks demolishes Viego, who just revives and cannot damage him
Voting Incon FRA
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Like 12 Teratons
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First of all, thank you very much for your articles. But you say that Viego did not damage Shanks and Shanks shattered Viego, But I want you to know that Viego is a creator made of mist and the non-material state (hax). It is easily unaffected by physical damage and does not take any damage from counter-light weapons (Ruined Animation also recorded this). Type3 Purification, on the other hand, comes from a distance. The black mist polluted and absorbed the lifeblood. If you know anything about League Of Legends, you know what LIFEWATERS can do. That's why I wanted to talk about type 3 detoxification. In general, defenders of Shanks can say viego thanks to the mind manip. I introduced Refinement as removing the bent state effect.
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Plus, I felt the need to open this CRT because I was new to vsbw and had no knowledge of these issues. I can understand if you use instructive sentences instead of insulting sentences. Thank you for writing again.
Sorry for my bad English.
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For Viego, I am thinking of making its profile at solar system level by presenting the evidence that it is at solar system level with CRT in the near future.
noninho
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Well
Somehow i missed the detail that Viego has Intangibility. My bad for that
Anyway, since my points about how Viego cannot hit Shanks are still there and I think duraneg+resistneg still cannot hit mist-viego
I still vote incon.
Somehow i missed the detail that Viego has Intangibility. My bad for that
My intent was to make as clear as possible my doubt(s) about what you claimed(which you gotta make a CRT for to make Viego actually use that). If you found those "insulting" for any reason, idk what to say except it was not even remotely close to my intention or to what I've said.
Anyway, since my points about how Viego cannot hit Shanks are still there and I think duraneg+resistneg still cannot hit mist-viego
I still vote incon.
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What I meant was water. Life waters can eliminate all kinds of bad effects. If you've read the Ruined Novel or the Determined Heart comic, you should understand this. Weapons of light completely erase souls from existence and disregard durability, no matter how durable they are. You can see this on vsbw from profiles such as Senna and Lucian. But Viego tended to fade away and take no damage from light weapons hits. In short, Viego already has the non-physical. And even if you blow it up from the inside, it's just a fog puppet. (My English is very bad. If you cannot understand the sentences, please say so.)
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Ve neden arınma tipi3'ü verdiğim konusuna gelince, tekrar söylemek istiyorum. Hayat suları, Fiziksel rune ile birlikte kara sis (Viego) tarafından asimile edildi, ruhlar silindi ve yeniden yaratıldı. ama Viego'nun ruhu diğer ruhlar gibi bozulmamıştı. Hayat suları tükenen ve hayat özü tükenen Viego'yu sonsuz bir döngüde zorla diriltecek kadar güçlü bir şifa kaynağıydı. Hayat suları, Yaşam ve Ölümün ötesinde her şeyi yapabilen çok tehlikeli bir büyülü su kaynağıdır. Romanlarda ve çizgi romanlarda her türlü hastalığı ve kötü etkileri giderebildiğinden bahsedilmektedir. Mahvolmuş Kral oyununda Ahri'nin zihniyle oynamasına karşı çıktı ve Ahri'nin anılarını kendi yönünde kullanmasına karşı çıktı.
noninho
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I remember this, I used to enjoy playing Yorick
I thought the last drops were in Yorick's collar, didn't actually knew there were still usable life water except for that. But...it's unusable here, since Shanks cannot hit him.
Which means that, like Shanks, they don't have the "mixture" needed to hit him (as I view it, would need Non-Physical Interaction and Resistance Negation). Anti-feat for Senna/Lucian and a (nice) feat for Viego.
I'll make sure to. So far, this hasn't been the issue.
Am...wow...I have no idea what's been said...
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And again, thank you for reading and responding to my answers. But I would like to say that the black fog can envelop a continent in a second, and can prevent attacks as it wishes. There is evidence of this in the Comic Book. And even breathing in it can cause death and mental degradation. So I think Viego will get Shanks thanks to the ranged hax and Death, Life, Ability blocking style haxes. I would appreciate it if you could explain to me clearly where I am wrong or where I am making nonsense.
noninho
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Right now the only thing you say that doesn't make sense is in this post...If you say that they're on the same AP level, you can't use continent level feats, meaning that for this match, on the way you put OP, it's limited to 6-B.
Other than that, the other things you brought just don't change the fact Haki on Shanks' level is pretty busted and guarantee (Via abilities that Viego doesn't deal with) that Viego also can't hit Shanks, just like the latter.
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Yukarıda gerekenlere sahip olmadıklarını söylediniz (senna, lucian) Ancak vsbw profillerinden senna ve lucian'ın Spirits'e karşı NPI'ya sahip olduğunu ve onlara karşı direnci ortadan kaldırmanın yanı sıra onları varoluştan silme yeteneğine sahip olduğunu görebilirsiniz. ancak Viego varoluştan silinmez ve hiçbir saldırı ona zarar veremez. (ona karşı oluşturulan hafif silahlar bile dayanıklılığının üstesinden gelemedi)
You said above that they don't have what it takes (senna, lucian) But you can see from their vsbw profiles that senna and lucian have NPI against Spirits and have the ability to negate resistance against them as well as erasing them from existence. but Viego is not erased from existence and no attack can harm him. (even the light weapons created against him could not overcome his durability)
noninho
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Because, as I also said, it needs another power too, Resistance Negation.
Shanks has "only" resistance Negation, senna and lucian "only" have NPI
That's, in my opinion, why the 3 of them cannot hit Viego properly.
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I mean again, he has NPI resistance negation against spirits. Rays can touch viego and erase souls. But even those who belong to Viego cannot throw it.
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Viego'nun hakiyi aşamadığını anlayamadım. Viego'nun yapabileceklerine baktığımda sadece haki ile koruma sağlayabilecek gibi görünmüyor. Viego'nun "Kutsal" kılıcı, en ufak bir çizikte insanların ruhlarını emer ve onların tüm yaşam enerjilerini tüketir. Romanda bunlardan bahsediliyor. Viego potansiyel olarak kara sisi bir dünya boyutuna genişletebilir. Kara sis içerisinde gelen saldırıları dilediği gibi engelleyebilir. Nefes almak bile Diana'nın dikkatini dağıtıyordu. Ayrıca roman benzeri oyun The Mahvolmuş Kral'da sisin içindeki gulyabanileri çağırıp dikkatini dağıtabildiği ve ayrıca sisin içindeki alan üzerinde tam kontrole sahip olduğu belirtiliyordu. Shanksa dilediği gibi engeller yaratabilir. Dilediği gibi zihnine zorlayabilir ve zilyetlik gibi haklarıyla zihnini zorlayıp oyalayabilir. Viego profili hakkında tam bilginiz var mı bilmiyorum ama kara sis gerçekten çok potansiyel bir Hax. Bunu da dikkate almanızı isterim.
noninho
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Who's "He"? Lucian does not have resistance negation, mate.
Still, that's derailing. Viego also can't hit Shanks, making it Inconclusive.
Also, please avoid posting in other language, I don't trust 100% Google translate or any other translation platform so I just can't understand what you're saying. English isn't my 1st language too so I understand if you don't practice enough, but I really can't read it.
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Viego is so insanely outdated that his profile makes some of the Old Warcraft profiles look good. Which is to say please don't use him.
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Afaik isn't the entire lol verse suffering from it? Lmao
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Look, man, there's a lot of hax in viego's profile that you missed. including Life and Death manipulation.
Black fog plays with the life and deconstructs the target it hits. This is already deconstruction.
If you tell him how he can't overcome Hakiyi, he can agree on that. I think it's a bit ridiculous to say he can't get over it.
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In the near future I will try to open a crt for Viego and change it with my evidence about some hax additions and also about ap and speed.
Viego is underappreciated, including by the entire League Of Legends universe.
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And how fast does this work? Does it do XYZ? Should he even have these abilities?
This is the kinda shit that kills LoL matches.
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Let me explain this to you.
In order to revise Viego you must also research every single dude who scales to him in any way, this means anybody who fights him, anyone who does anything to him, this means you wouldn't be revising just one champion... but seven cause all Shadow Isles Lore needs to be looked through
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I'm sorry I tagged you by mistake. I tagged you in one sentence, but here's what I have to say in this sentence
The League Of Legends universe doesn't get the credit it deserves. I'm a big follower
I'm going to open a crt for Viego to be 4B Mftl+, after all he has feats on it indirectly. The only admin who is interested in Lol says that Viego was heavily buffed for that battle but there is no clear proof of that and I haven't seen it. Anyway, this is not exactly the topic, I am really curious about Viegi vs Shanks, shankstards are bothering me a lot.
I could write the simplest examples, but I don't want to burden you any more, who do you think will win and what do you think Viego deserves?
noninho
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Also, as DaReaper pointed out, the entire lol, with few exceptions, needs a CRT.
You're even saying that you want to start one...then why persist using an outdated profile on a Inconclusive match?
Even if any of the sides wins, you know that when big CRTs are done to the profiles the match is invalid, right?
You're even saying that you want to start one...then why persist using an outdated profile on a Inconclusive match?
Even if any of the sides wins, you know that when big CRTs are done to the profiles the match is invalid, right?
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Tekrar söylüyorum, seviye konusunda senin kadar bilgili değilim. Ve Shanks hayranı olan bir arkadaşım bana Shanks'ın Viego'yu zorlanmadan aldığını söyledi. Mesela yumrukta da bahsettiğim gibi Viego'nun Shanks'ın mind manipini yani Kral Hakisi'nin etkisini saflaştırma type3 hax ile ortadan kaldırabilmesi gerekiyor. Ve şunu da belirtmek isterim ki Viego'nun benliği ve ruhu onun kılıcındadır. Neyse konu bu değil. Yukarıda defalarca belirttim, arkadaşlarım sapların kolay tokat atacağını söylüyorlar ama ben buna katılmıyorum. İnsanların fikrini almak için crt'yi açtım.
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Tekrar söylemek isterim.
Shanks geleceği görebilse bile kara sisin ne olduğunu biliyorsanız bölgeye ne kadar hakim olduğunu da bilirsiniz.
Bu, sapların Viego'nun saldırılarını engellerken aynı anda yüzlerce sis yaratığı ve engel ile savaşması gerektiği anlamına gelir.
Ve Felaket romanında da belirtildiği gibi (İsterseniz sayfayla birlikte kanıtını da gönderebilirim.) VİEGO el hareketleriyle insanları uzaklaştırır ve eliyle buraya gel hareketi yaptığında görünmez bir güç (yani sihirli güç) ortaya çıkar. ) insanları zorla kendine çeker.
Felaket romanı Viego Helia'da, Helia'da kendisinden uzakta duran bir nöbetçiyi eliyle işaret ederek onu kılıçla bıçaklamaya zorladı. Çığlık atarak büyük bir kale kapısını kırdı.
Onu engellemeye çalışan tüm gardiyanlar görünmez bir bariyerle engellendi.
Yani bu bölümde Shanks bunların hepsine yanıt verse bile dayanıklılığa baktığınızı düşünüyorum. Viego'nun sonsuz dayanıklılığı var ama Shanks'ın dayanıklılığı buna yakın bile değil. Haki görüşünü ne kadar tutacak ve busoshoku ve Kenbunshoku haki'yi kullanmaya ne kadar devam edecek (Zoro'da gördüğümüz gibi, çok fazla haki ölüme ve ölüme yol açabilecek kötü etkilere sahip olabilir)
bitkinlik).
Shanks geleceği görebilse bile kara sisin ne olduğunu biliyorsanız bölgeye ne kadar hakim olduğunu da bilirsiniz.
Bu, sapların Viego'nun saldırılarını engellerken aynı anda yüzlerce sis yaratığı ve engel ile savaşması gerektiği anlamına gelir.
Ve Felaket romanında da belirtildiği gibi (İsterseniz sayfayla birlikte kanıtını da gönderebilirim.) VİEGO el hareketleriyle insanları uzaklaştırır ve eliyle buraya gel hareketi yaptığında görünmez bir güç (yani sihirli güç) ortaya çıkar. ) insanları zorla kendine çeker.
Felaket romanı Viego Helia'da, Helia'da kendisinden uzakta duran bir nöbetçiyi eliyle işaret ederek onu kılıçla bıçaklamaya zorladı. Çığlık atarak büyük bir kale kapısını kırdı.
Onu engellemeye çalışan tüm gardiyanlar görünmez bir bariyerle engellendi.
Yani bu bölümde Shanks bunların hepsine yanıt verse bile dayanıklılığa baktığınızı düşünüyorum. Viego'nun sonsuz dayanıklılığı var ama Shanks'ın dayanıklılığı buna yakın bile değil. Haki görüşünü ne kadar tutacak ve busoshoku ve Kenbunshoku haki'yi kullanmaya ne kadar devam edecek (Zoro'da gördüğümüz gibi, çok fazla haki ölüme ve ölüme yol açabilecek kötü etkilere sahip olabilir)
bitkinlik).
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I apologize for my bad English. I like the way you speak very much, thank you very much for taking care of me.
But what I want to say is, in our conversation from the beginning, yes you know the shank very well, but you are missing a lot of things in the Viego profile. He has a catastrophic power like black fog and a hax that gives area control with a hax. I just purposely equalized ap and speed. I argue that shanks cannot stun viego with haosholu haki because of the purification type3 hax. (You yourself gave the example from yorick.) For example, I think you haven't played the disaster novel and viego's game. You are looking too straight.
In short, my opinion is that he will get the shank thanks to his field dominance and stamina.
I say again and again that I only opened it for information about shanks or viego. I'm not as knowledgeable as you.
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I'm the one thanking you! The match is a good idea and you're putting a ton of effort here, mate.
I hope to see your CRT in Viego's favor then we may see if this match is viable, because, as I explained, right now this match is not applicable to be added in the profiles via Viego's profile being outdated.
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Thank you for appreciating my effort! I don't know Tier as well as you do. The biggest reason I opened this crt was that a friend who likes shanks and has tier knowledge said shanks>viego.
Conqueror khaki can stun people. But Viego should be able to remove the knockout and mind control and intimidation effects of this king's khaki through purification. But my friend claims he can't.
I'll say it again, Viego is really, really broken in terms of hax. He is the absolute king of fog and has all kinds of bending levels, he can emit enough black fog to envelop a planet and gives 5B Magic range.
Breathing in the fog, even the touch of the fog, disrupts your structure and steals your mind.
Viegi can block incoming blows and attack the person with fog objects at will. (When he ripped the isolde out of Senna, he created a structure to prevent her from falling off the cliff. Time is not important in the black fog, I can give an example similar to the Room area like law from One Piece. But the black fog area and the room area are incomparable hax differences.
I mean, it's not even sincere that a character like Shanks can take him when Viego has such a broken character.
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kanka aynı hatayı 30 kere yapma be
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ya kanka 3 kere düzelttiğim için yazıları sonunda türkçe kaydediyor Xd
ShionAH
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lol maçları yapma bence karakterlerin profilleri iğrenç
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Lol maçı yapmak zorluyor evet. Hem kimsenin Viego hakkında cidden bilgisi yok yorumları okuduysan Shanks One Shot yazanlarla dolu
Fakat Viego için güncel bir profil açmaya çalışıyorum. İki sayfa var geri giderek okuyabilirsin ilgini çekerse.
Viego and Pantheon scale
I know next to nothing about LoL and stuff, but the quotes used in the OP seem very straightforward here. I checked their profiles too, doesn't seem to create some weird scaling situation at first glance. Still, again, am not really that knowledgeable about the verse, only really knowing...
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