Venuzdonoa/Anos possible downgrade

[RamadhanDayYet]

Did you read the OP on why he is able to destroy things within the silver sea

Just check the previous post

 

[Dereck03]

Sasha, who isnt a misfit, was able to destroy stuff with her own venuzdonoa order in deeper layers. What is your point?

I told him the same before but apparently he doesn't read that

 

[Musaabu02]

Okay in short I will explain the context that we're speaking generally in here, that 'world' is reffer to Universe:
• Every realms has it own space and time, the size also near-infinite. Is it make sense if a single planet has a near-infinite space? No? Right, so it's clear.
• Every realms works parallelialy to each other, and the structure of silver sea make the context of this world into a various one that uncountable where everyone of them has a comparable size (near-infinite and some infinite range).
• To transverse to another realm you can't go that in ease because the world in there is a distorted space where it has a never-ending (near-infinite scale).

So what? The scans already been proved many times by the other supporters, and being provide in their cosmology blog.

I know this thank you.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691481359335555115/829120410095976498/anos_feat.png

I was referring to this scans of anos stating to be able to unleash the power of a thousand worlds. No thing based on its context said universes that's my point.

Cause I feel people just look how OP a verse is and conclude when ever world is used = universe. When we know words like world/globe have different meaning in context.

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

Pre-Silver Sea, the author made it clear that the world and the Blue Dome of the Gods were different. What was world used to refer to then?

Bruh, you forgot that the other universre sized/space time world still can exist in one bubble

 

[Dereck03]

Didn't Sasha get something like a power boost

Do you think that a power boost will be enough to match her with anos'

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

I know this thank you.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691481359335555115/829120410095976498/anos_feat.png

I was referring to this scans of anos stating to be able to unleash the power of a thousand worlds. No thing based on its context said universes that's my point.

Cause I feel people just look how OP a verse is and conclude when ever world is used = universe. When we know words like world/globe have different meaning in context.

That devil garden is able to tanking anos world destroyer attack, the previous post also said like that, wdym


Do you can read anyway

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Didn't Sasha get something like a power boost

Sashe herself? Yes, but not exactly a boost per se, she just became stronger enough to match deeper inhabitants

But venuzdonoa? It wasnt neither deepened nor boosted as far as Ive seen it

 

[AncientKing95]

Bruh, you forgot that the other universre sized/space time world still can exist in one bubble

It's not a separate universe/space-time whatever your talking about. It's part of the universe.

 

[EinelRendezvous]

I know this thank you.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/691481359335555115/829120410095976498/anos_feat.png

I was referring to this scans of anos stating to be able to unleash the power of a thousand worlds. No thing based on its context said universes that's my point.

Cause I feel people just look how OP a verse is and conclude when ever world is used = universe. When we know words like world/globe have different meaning in context.

Yeah your welcome, makes sense then ok.

 

[imZer0Null]

1) It would be more accurate to interpret the statement like this. Venuzdonoa can destroy part of creation, not all of creation. This is because Anos only knew about his single world when making that statement. Since his single world is only part of creation, there you go.

2) Anos isn't omniscient. Just because he says something that doesn't mean it's true.

So you couldn't disprove it? Then this thread can be closed.

You honestly can't seem to understand that if someone says they can destroy all of creation, no matter how strong, eternal or infinite creation might be, then what they thought all of creation was is irrelevant, since they literally said they can destroy it regardless of how strong, eternal or infinite it is.

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

It's not a separate universe/space-time whatever your talking about. It's part of the universe.

Do you forget bout beno yeven thing

And did you ignore my point for why the world is almost always treated as universe in the my first post on this thread

Also if it's refering to planet, then earth or any similar word is used to it as author usually use it for

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

Yeah your welcome, makes sense then ok.

How's that make sense anyway

 

[AncientKing95]

So you couldn't disprove it? Then this thread can be closed.

You honestly can't seem to understand that if someone says they can destroy all of creation, no matter how strong, eternal or infinite creation might be, then what they thought all of creation was is irrelevant, since they literally said they can destroy it regardless of how strong, eternal or infinite it is.

You don't seem to understand that a character can be wrong. I guess it's fact that Gojo is stronger than full-power Sukuna becausr he said so.

 

[Lormac_CC]

Sashe herself? Yes, but not exactly a boost per se, she just became stronger enough to match deeper inhabitants

But venuzdonoa? It wasnt neither deepened nor boosted as far as Ive seen it

So if Venuzdonoa is giving to a deeper world inhabitant, he wouldn't be able to use it to destroy stuff in their world

 

[EinelRendezvous]

You do know that the majority of the characters Pre-Silver Sea didn't know what the infinite black skies or the Blue Dome of the Gods were, right? So you're saying that all of them just "interpreted it differently"? Really?

Yeah and? Seems like you don't get to thing that I focused in here.

I'll ask once more, what (do you think) they were referring to? It isn't a hard question.

You mean the 'world'? I will repeat in more detail, what I mean by depending on the interpretation by the Author is related to how the development of the story works. Indeed, many characters before the Silver Sea arc rarely know of a world order other than Militia's, but that doesn't mean the context is limited to that. Then after that we explored it again, right, if the "world" there turns out to be just a "distortion bubble" that hovers in the Silver Sea? so your question of wanting to falsify will only show your inadequacy.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

So if Venuzdonoa is giving to a deeper world inhabitant, he wouldn't be able to use it to destroy stuff in their world

It would tho? Venuzdonoa naturally has the ability of affecting deeper stuff since it did so in the series. My point is that venuzdonoa doesn't need boosts to affect deeper layers.

 

[EinelRendezvous]

How's that make sense anyway

I reffering to the first paragraph not the rest either.

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

It would tho? Venuzdonoa naturally has the ability of affecting deeper stuff since it did so in the series. My point is that venuzdonoa doesn't need boosts to affect deeper layers.

Yeah as you said

It's literally the point of author created Venuzdonoa for

 

[imZer0Null]

You don't seem to understand that a character can be wrong. I guess it's fact that Gojo is stronger than full-power Sukuna becausr he said so.

So again you can't disprove it?

You're using "logic" that says Anos can also be wrong, but that's honestly irrelevant, since there aren't any anti-feats to show that Anos was wrong.

 

[AncientKing95]

Yeah and? Seems like you don't get to thing that I focused in here.

You mean the 'world'? I will repeat in more detail, what I mean by depending on the interpretation by the Author is related to how the development of the story works. Indeed, many characters before the Silver Sea arc rarely know of a world order other than Militia's, but that doesn't mean the context is limited to that. Then after that we explored it again, right, if the "world" there turns out to be just a "distortion bubble" that hovers in the Silver Sea? so your question of wanting to falsify will only show your inadequacy.

So you can't answer my question then. Got it.

 

[EinelRendezvous]

So if Venuzdonoa is giving to a deeper world inhabitant, he wouldn't be able to use it to destroy stuff in their world

So this the point that you said Venuzdonoa isn't usable or something like that in a deeper layer and Anos destruction feats in there shouldn't be scaled entirely? That's a headcanon duh, since Oblivion has explain and mention it many times the thing that you are said just circling around.

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

Actually this thread can be shortened by you provide us why Venuzdonoa shouldn't be able to destroy the entire silver sea while there's no anti feats to it

 

[Lormac_CC]

It would tho? Venuzdonoa naturally has the ability of affecting deeper stuff since it did so in the series. My point is that venuzdonoa doesn't need boosts to affect deeper layers.

Going from Anos page Venuzdonoa serves to control a character powers

 

[EinelRendezvous]

So you can't answer my question then. Got it.

I can, and I just ANSWER it.

 

[AncientKing95]

So again you can't disprove it?

You're using "logic" that says Anos can also be wrong, but that's honestly irrelevant, since there aren't any anti-feats to show that Anos was wrong.

Just as I "can't disprove it" which I am, but your completely ignoring logic, you can't and haven't proven it. You've both twisted the original meaning of the statement to your liking while not provide evidence that it can.

 

[imZer0Null]

Most people have disagreed to the downgrade.
Arguments for the downgrade has been disproved.
AncientKing can't accept the fact that his head canon isn't accepted, and thus this CRT has been going in circles.

I think it appropriate to close this thread.

 

[Dereck03]

Actually this thread can be shortened by you provide us why Venuzdonoa shouldn't be able to destroy the entire silver sea while there's no anti feats to it

Indeed

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

Going from Anos page Venuzdonoa serves to control a character powers

Yeah, because anos is so strong that he needs Venuzdonoa to control his power

 

[Dereck03]

Most people have disagreed to the downgrade.
Arguments for the downgrade has been disproved.
AncientKing can't accept the fact that his head canon isn't accepted, and thus this CRT has been going in circles.

I think it appropriate to close this thread.

Indeed

 

[EinelRendezvous]

Actually this thread can be shortened by you provide us why Venuzdonoa shouldn't be able to destroy the entire silver sea while there's no anti feats to it

Yes this.

 

[RamadhanDayYet]

Most people have disagreed to the downgrade.
Arguments for the downgrade has been disproved.
AncientKing can't accept the fact that his head canon isn't accepted, and thus this CRT has been going in circles.

I think it appropriate to close this thread.

Agreed

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Going from Anos page Venuzdonoa serves to control a character powers

I think you meant "Anos' powers" not "a character powers"

 

[AncientKing95]

Actually this thread can be shortened by you provide us why Venuzdonoa shouldn't be able to destroy the entire silver sea while there's no anti feats to it

Because Anos never said it could, plain and simple. I've got no idea why you guys are overthinking this.

 

[Dereck03]

Yeah, because anos is so strong that he needs Venuzdonoa to control his power

And likewise venuzdonoa must be as powerful as he is in order to control his power.

 

[AncientKing95]

I can, and I just ANSWER it.

What. Did. They. Refer. To. When. They. Said. World?

That was my question, which you keep side-stepping.

 

[EinelRendezvous]

Because Anos never said it could, plain and simple. I've got no idea why you guys are overthinking this.

I mean Anos literally said with a serious tone that this Venuzdonoa can destroy everything, so why it's not? Also there's no anti feats where you are also acknowledged this. You're circling around bro, can't you just accept it?

 

[imZer0Null]

Most people have disagreed to the downgrade.
Arguments for the downgrade has been disproved.
AncientKing can't accept the fact that his head canon isn't accepted, and thus this CRT has been going in circles.

I think it appropriate to close this thread.

Someone contact a staff member for this please.

 

[AncientKing95]

Most people have disagreed to the downgrade.
Arguments for the downgrade has been disproved.
AncientKing can't accept the fact that his head canon isn't accepted, and thus this CRT has been going in circles.

I think it appropriate to close this thread.

I can't believe you're really trying to talk about headcanon right now.

 

[EinelRendezvous]

What. Did. They. Refer. To. When. They. Said. World?

That was my question, which you keep side-stepping.

For what I answering this again? That's kinda irrelevant you know, you want to make me fallacy? Better brought a better argument than make a false equivalence like that.

 

[EinelRendezvous]

Someone contact a mod for this please.

I have tag Ant, but I will try to tag him again @Antvasima @Agnaa can you close this thread? The conclusion is clear, and just as imZer0 said.