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So you read this and admit and insisted nitpicking is a good idea.
Not only that you are telling me Garaa can block out the moon?
I’ll stop responding to you now. Thank you for your time.
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Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) VS Gaara (New Era) (14-11-0) (GRACE)
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So you read this and admit and insisted nitpicking is a good idea.
Not only that you are telling me Garaa can block out the moon?
I’ll stop responding to you now. Thank you for your time.
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You can clearly see that the raikage moved AFTER sasuke used the amaterasu.I repeat the raikage only moved AFTER the attack was used
the flames were already there, but the raikage still managed to dodge it
This would not be possible if the amaterasu truly spawned right on him, if that was the case he would have died right there
Also, to top it off, the samurai got caught by the attack.Meaning that the attack traveled all the way to the poor guy
Like its just clear its a projectile
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Your scan is probably not visible to them. I can’t see them myself.
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It isn't nitpicking, I'm picking the ones that aren't wincons.
He's blocking Vegeta's access to the moon.
You're welcome.
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Ooooh...ok then, i gueds i will just use imgur instead
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Oh, phew, thought it was just me.
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I literally mentioned two wincons and a combination of things that put Vegeta at an advantage to easily perform said wincons or create another wincon and you’re just picking it bit by bit as tho they’re individual wincons. How tf do you see “flight” and assume I meant that as a wincon are you serious?
Assuming Garaa can fly many kilometers in the air to do that. He has zero knowledge on Vegeta to prompt him to do so.
bye. I’m going to play futsal.
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I call advantages wincons
He can just trap him in sand is what I meant.
I'll assume that's like, a British thing or something.
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Im so sorry guys lmao, i talked all that shit and in ur guys pov i had no proof to back it up
Edit:You guys can see the link now right?
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Edit:You guys can see the link now right?
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Wait, what's the after image behind him, is that meant to mean he was actually an after image, or is that an aura?
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It just means he moved so fast he left an after image before the Amaterasu got to him
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Ok, so it is his aura(by which I meant his lightning aura boosting his speed)
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You know he only does that when he absolutely knows someone is weaker and doesn't want to fight, as well as being annoyed.
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Scouter.
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He didn't use it on anyone he was actually fighting against
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The problem here is that vegeta will automatically assume that he IS weaker dude,to him gaara is nothing but a weak human that is not worth wasting his time
Remember, the only reason why he and nappa didnt immediatelly wipe the z fighers out was because they were looking for the dragon balls and also entertaining themselves while waiting for goku
In this scenerio on the other hand, vegeta is only here only to kill gaara's ass, not to look for dragon balls or to wait for someone
Vegeta thought process will be
Gaara=human=useless garbage
And what does he do to useless garbage?
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before or after the scouter broke.
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Who did he use it on in a fight?
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He only does that if they personally offend him.
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Except Gaara is literally stronger then Vegeta and is faster (which means he won’t even try it)
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Not entirely true, Gaara is phisically weaker than vegeta here, literally anything that vegeta throws at him will kill him if it hits.
Also, vegeta does not know gaara's ap and speed, the only thing that he knows about gaara is that he is a human, so why would he even waste his time with gaara instead of finishing things off quickly?
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He quickly disposes anything that is useless to him, not anything related to feelings
In the saibaman case, it got beat up by tien, so vegeta got rid of it because, again , to him it was nothing but useless garbage
Edit:So i just read the manga again, and vegeta stright up tells nappa that he killed it off because it would be a wastw of time to keep it alive and let it fight tien again.So its just undeniable that if vegeta thinks something isnt worth his time he will just blow it
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Yeah, exactly, he did that because it disappointed him.
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No dude, read the edit that i made
Vegeta straight up says that the reason he did that was because it would be a waste of time, he had no use for the saibamen anymore
If he sees gaara as someone who is not worth wasting his time, he will just point at him and boom
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Vegeta is a sayian who use their battle equipment such as a scouter.. in battle. Just like Raditz, Just like Nappa, Just like Vegeta did for Nappa when his got broken.
Should I really have had to answer this?
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I meant Dirty Fireworks.
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That's dumb, if he did that on everyone he thought was weak, he would do it on Krillin, Yajirobe, and Gohan when they interrupted during the Goku fight.
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You are ignoring the reason why he didnt kill them in the first place
Vegeta left it crystal clear that he wanted to torture and kill goku first because of that humiliating defeat he suffered against kaioken 4 goku, and only then he would go after everyone else
And then vegeta only tries to kill gohan when the later gets a rage boost, and while in rage gohan is actually able to fight vegeta, so vegeta just really couldnt finish gohan off like that at that point
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Ah, I suppose that makes sense.
Anyway, does he ever open with it on random fodders he's never met?
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idk man google it you’ll see like 2-3 people (saibamen, Zarbon and puipui)
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Doesn't need to be, Ki energy has been shown to vaporize beings that are lower in power, and has only ever been destroyed by Ki attacks of similar power. Gaara's sand will just disintegrate when it comes into contact
Not naturally and instantly like Vegeta can, and Vegeta becomes faster as an Oozaru. Its not like Gaara knows all his techniques, so he won't instantly think go for the ball, though he can still deduct it. Though by that point Vegeta will be an Oozaru that is not only much more powerful and faster, but will also not give Gaara the change to destroy or seal it.
Gaara's sealing does not work that way. His sealing requires the seal to occur close to the ground and cannot be done so in the air. Not to mention he has only ever used it against physical beings an not GIANT BALLS OF ENERGY.
The oozaru form doesn't necassarily need to have direct exposure to the moon or powerball once the transformation occurs, otherwise they would just transform back whenever they look away from the moon. Once a transformation occurs, they just need to be simply exposed to the Blutz waves to be transformed still, and Blutz waves is essentially just radiation, meaning that the blutz waves would still get past the sand and keep vegeta transformed. Only by destroying the planetary body or powerball can the Oozaru transformation be undone, as well as by destroying the tail.
... I've mentioned the part about the blutz waves earlier, even if it wasn't true, are you SOMEHOW suggesting that Gaara can block the ******* MOON, when his range is only a few kilometers at most and probably doesn't have enough sand to cover it?!
...I have nothing to say tbh other than you're a moron. Also if Vegeta did transform with the moon, it would probably be even harder for Gaara to realize that the moon is Vegeta's weakness.
Additionally, all your arguements either suggest that Gaara would somehow instantly think to attack the power ball before Vegeta could transform, or that Vegeta would just stand there and let Gaara attack the ball without intervening.
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He didn't use it on Zarbon
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He just has to cover Vegeta, who has lower LS than him iirc
Vegeta tends to announce his moves and what they will do.
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Regarding Dirty Fireworks, Vegeta only uses it against someone he knows is much weaker than him. Vegeta does have his scouter, and he can read Gaara's power level and compare it to his own. The scouter iirc works by reading someone's ki intensity, and give it a numeral value.
Using verse equalization, this would mean the scouter would read Gaara's Chakra intensity. Gaara's sand is entirely moved and powered by his Chakra, so if he tried to read Gaara's PL, he might actually read a power level much higher than his own even though Gaara is physically trash.
Tbh, this is a bit of a losing situation for Gaara here whether the scouter shows Gaara's normal PL (which would be less than 300) or Gaara's sand PL (which would over 45000). If the former, Vegeta just uses dirty fireworks. If the latter, Vegeta immediately busts out the artificial moon.
Using verse equalization, this would mean the scouter would read Gaara's Chakra intensity. Gaara's sand is entirely moved and powered by his Chakra, so if he tried to read Gaara's PL, he might actually read a power level much higher than his own even though Gaara is physically trash.
Tbh, this is a bit of a losing situation for Gaara here whether the scouter shows Gaara's normal PL (which would be less than 300) or Gaara's sand PL (which would over 45000). If the former, Vegeta just uses dirty fireworks. If the latter, Vegeta immediately busts out the artificial moon.
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Reading the OP, you showed him reading the power level, but not reacting to what it said. Which is it?
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Well, he did use it on a saibamen that was freshily made(they werent fighing, yes, but that was his preffered method to clean out the trash)but other than that no
Vegeta only used this attack on cui but only after sending him to the air.However its worth noting that the both of them hated each other and cui was trashtalking him, which probally led to vegeta taking a more cruel route to finish cui off
I think that if vegeta's deems gaara as a waste of time, he would give him the saibamen treatment,because unlike cui vegeta doesnt have any personal beef with gaara, so he will just go for the more simple and "peaceful" route
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So, we have 2 possible scenerios here, but in both situations gaara is screwed?
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I just show him not really reacting because I don't know what value the scouter would give. The scenario I give out in the op probably doesn't really matter for the actual vs match.
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