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got some solid scaling. might get tackled in a future boruto crt
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Two alien invaders fights each other (Base Momoshiki vs Saiyan Saga Vegeta)
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Money’s on Momo. While this Vegeta is more reliant on h2h than in later arcs, he will Galick Gun, which will tire him and Momo will absorb. Furthermore, Vegeta’s skill isn’t what it’ll be later and mainly relies on domination via being a Saiyan (which was the point of the Saiyan Saga and Goku being better thanks to training). Momo should have exp on his side as well as better techniques.
GlaceonGamez471
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Fine for the Naruto dude I think, since that's a whole different key, but if want this to be added, you can't restrict Oozaru, per vs thread rules:
Looking at the profile, Oozaru doesn't give a separate tier, so it can't be restricted
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Why the hell is Vegeta using Galick gun, a finishing move, in this manner?
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Cause he’d get pissed that he’s being matched. If this is Saiyan Saga, he doesn’t have an ounce of humility.
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Matched in what? He's got the H2H advantage
MinatoSparkle
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Okay so a big ass attack got amped to an even bigger attack. Vegeta shooting a Ki blast wouldn’t be amped as much as you guys think it will. I’m referring to size btw in case I haven’t made myself clear. So yes Vegeta will dodge the reflected Ki blast and the explosion of the attack doesn’t matter since Vegeta isn’t taking the total energy of the explosion but only a mere fraction since he wasn’t hit directly.
There is no way Vegeta is shooting a garlic gun knowing about this ability.
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Killer B can normally tank that attack and get back up, and his injured state should be able to take the injured state's own attack. It was amped enough to knock him back into his base form.
Anyway, does Vegeta ever just shoot ONE Ki Blast?
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From what though? Vegeta’s never fought an equal at this point. The moment he did (Goku) he was put on the backfoot.
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this is a generalization fallacy. Goku and Momo are completely different characters with completely different capabilities aside from just strength.
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survive yes? Tank..no
he was bloody and bruished as hell and reverted back out of his Bijuu form shortly after
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You have a history of nitpicking me in the most annoying and stupid way possible.
You intentionally quote me out of context and proceed to respond with something that has nothing to do with the original message
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My point is Vegeta will not get tagged by the absorption attack.
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Of course you are
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Testarossa002
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Anyways
While momo is not shown to be an expert H2H combatant, he's also not exactly a sitting duck either
Casual kick from him was enough to send someone relative in stats to him flying
I'd imagine that'll hurt to someone who's slightly weaker than him
+He can no sell attacks from those with relative AP to him via sheer durability
Vegeta isn't getting the jump on him (Byakugan tax)
Also
Vegeta throwing energy attacks at momo can simply serve to amp momo further
Convert to pills and stuffs
Worse case scenario I can see for momo is incon
While momo is not shown to be an expert H2H combatant, he's also not exactly a sitting duck either
Casual kick from him was enough to send someone relative in stats to him flying
I'd imagine that'll hurt to someone who's slightly weaker than him
+He can no sell attacks from those with relative AP to him via sheer durability
Vegeta isn't getting the jump on him (Byakugan tax)
Also
Vegeta throwing energy attacks at momo can simply serve to amp momo further
Convert to pills and stuffs
Worse case scenario I can see for momo is incon
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Vegeta’s endurance should allow him get stronger as the fight goes on so him being slightly weaker isn’t an issue. Vegeta eventually surpasses him.
Vegeta isn’t throwing energy attacks if Momo absorbs whatever he throws he’s not that stupid as we’ve mentioned several times. The amp is temporary and the attack getting reflected back on Vegeta will simply get dodged and whatever aftermath from the attack (an explosion) that hits Vegeta will simply be shrugged off since the energy of the attack will be far less than what hits Vegeta due to its dispersion. (The further away the target is from the epicenter of an explosion, the less energy hits him)
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Katasuki's attacks weren't that large range but Momo's reflection made them so.
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Until like, Super, the power growth in battle is completely unnoticeable. Being generous, it's until Cell.
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Oh btw I'm voting Momoshiki if that wasn't clear
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That attack was almost half his size and the reflection was more than half his size. The attack was already large before it was amped. Compared a small ass Ki blast in comparison, it’ll only grow to a size that’s still very much dodgeable.
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Also can and has Momo absorb a barrage of attacks at once?
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? Are you talking about the manga or the anime? Cause it definitely became greatly larger with the amplification in the anime.
I mean that's literally what Katasuki did.
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I forgot to mention, Momoshiki has one game changer move here. Which is Shikamaru's Shadow Paralysis. He has that absorbed and stored when Shikamaru tried paralyzing him, and he can use it here. It's strong enough to paralyze 6 5-Bs at once, all of which are beyond baseline. And the original jutsu before it was absorbed can paralyze both Kinshiki and Momoshiki at once before he starts absorbing it.
Also, someone pointed out that I can't restrict Great Ape. If that's true I'll change the rules later.
Also, someone pointed out that I can't restrict Great Ape. If that's true I'll change the rules later.
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Manga. Isn’t that canon?
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No, I was just clarifying that being on the edge of the explosion would not necessarily help him. Isn't a big issue.
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Irrelevant and Incoherent.
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Can it paralyze those in flight?
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Both are canon.
Momoshiki can weaken him by targeting Tenketsu, which inhibits the movement of the foe. All beings with Chakra have Tenketsu, and Vegeta has them via Verse Equalization. Continually hitting them seriously damages the body.
Goku did that in the Buu Saga.
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I mean technically they're both canon.
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As long as they have a shadow.
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I still don't see how Vegeta has a supposedly massive H2H advantage that would allow him to instant clap Momoshiki.
Momoshiki isn't bad at H2H whatsoever, he could casually send Naruto flying through a wall without putting in a lot of effort, he even was critiquing Kinshiki while Kinshiki was fighting. Also, Momoshiki beat Hinata at H2H, idk if y'all forgot that.
Even so, why are we assuming that Momoshiki would even let him get close enough for long enough to use said H2H? When Momoshiki (Base) fought Naruto and Sasuke, he spammed over a dozen Jutsu at them whilst giving them basically 0 time to react. What's to say he wouldn't just Caged Heat Arson gg?
Also, again, where is it stated that absorbing Kinshiki made Momoshiki more skilled?
Momoshiki isn't bad at H2H whatsoever, he could casually send Naruto flying through a wall without putting in a lot of effort, he even was critiquing Kinshiki while Kinshiki was fighting. Also, Momoshiki beat Hinata at H2H, idk if y'all forgot that.
Even so, why are we assuming that Momoshiki would even let him get close enough for long enough to use said H2H? When Momoshiki (Base) fought Naruto and Sasuke, he spammed over a dozen Jutsu at them whilst giving them basically 0 time to react. What's to say he wouldn't just Caged Heat Arson gg?
Also, again, where is it stated that absorbing Kinshiki made Momoshiki more skilled?
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Being more skilled than guys more skilled than guys more skilled than Kami or some shit, idk.
Agree 100 on him being Kinshiki level
To be fair, he's way stronger.
Starts at melee range
I swear if you keep making banger points like this, I am going to hug you through the screen.
I would consider it possible, but not significant.
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Isn't great ape like a 10x amp?
It's practically a stomp by then
Unless momoshiki retreats into another dimension until Vegeta tires out
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The thing with using the Power Ball is that it is very draining. If Momoshiki doesn't give him a moment's notice, he either won't get a chance to use it or will be too drained to activate it.
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I think you'd be mistaken given he doesn't need it to be a full moon. He can trigger it himself.
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