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Exactly, basically the ranges covered by the kaioken
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Dragon Ball AP, sad downgrade (Raditz/Saiyan/Namek Saga Tiers only)
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to get rid of hypothetical multipliers, sorry if I'm not active here I already said in the db discussion thread that I won't have as much time for CRTs for now
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bump?
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Bump
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bump
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Bump
TimeTrapperFanBoy
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ikr, anyways bumpWhy must these threads get stonewalled
DivineAura44
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What exactly are you waiting for? More staff approval?
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can someone count the staff votes?
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Yes I don't think we have 3 yet, its been a while tho so I could be wrong
Would be helpful
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@Maverick_Zero_X here agrees completely
@Damage3245 here agrees with removing downscaling, but prefers to use the baseline Earth destruction rather than the calc in the OP
@DarkDragonMedeus here agrees with some of the problems, but didn't gave a straight vote so far
@KingTempest didn't gave a concrete vote or thoughts about the OP specifically, he seems to be against using PL linearly tho, but i would suggest asking him again and not assume anything about his position
ask for either DarkDragon or Kingtempest to give their opinions again and we can solve this i say, as for the calculation of the Avarege DB planet in the OP, maybe a new thread would be better to cover that one given the size that this thread already has
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Could you two please give a concrete vote on the OP?
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I think the calculation in the OP seems fine to use.
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I think the main issue here is the Kaioken scaling
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do you also agree with the main premise of removing the downscaling?
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Yeah, the examples in the OP yeah.
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and now we have 3 agreements, this can be applied
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That was already accepted in a thread before, no point in making another one for it
No only two from DDM and Maverick. Damage disagrees with using the average Planet calc (which is already accepted??) and King still hasn't given a concrete vote
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was it? which thread? as far as i can remember, it wasn't
Damage also agreed with not downsaling, so that part was accepted
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I'm fine with the average planet calc. I disagree with the downscaling
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The new scaling is fine, including using the GBE calc
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Btw, CGM votes count for the calculation part, so it's irrefutably approved, and can be applied.
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for the math itself, i assume the statement part not considering what i heard in the past regarding this
it is approved regardless tho, so that matters little
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What's the current state of this thread?
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it is accepted
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Looking at the scaling chain, and with Kaio-Ken x2, isn't it technically a 4 times multiplier?
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What about this makes Kaioken x2 a 4x multiplier...?
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.......you know, bringing a proposal entirely new, to a thread literally at its end feels..........weird, just make a new thread for it
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"Not even doubling his strength through Kaio-ken was enough"??
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what makes 2x Kaioken a 4x multiplier?
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idk ask him, the scan he's using literally says it doubles his strength
DivineAura44
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Assumption but this confusion probably stems from the fact that Kaioken and Kaioken x2 have the same multiplier.
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Base Kaio-ken is already a 2x multiplier, so wouldn't a Kaio-ken x2 be a 4x multiplier?
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Base Kaioken and Kaioken x2 are the same
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So just to be clear
This thread is still going with the kaioken x10 Goku not having a power level of 900k from a base of 90k?
This thread is still going with the kaioken x10 Goku not having a power level of 900k from a base of 90k?
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How are you sure about that? If they were the same then how come Goku didn't just say "Kaio-ken" over "Kaio-ken x2" after using base Kaio-ken?
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