Vegeta (Dragonball) Vs Sakura Haruno (Naruto)

[TheKingStrategist13]

Yes, he'd believe it's broken. This behavior is very typical for Frieza Force goons including Vegeta or Nappa

Actually, Vegeta is shown to be much less underestimating of his opponents than Nappa. Numerous times Vegeta told Nappa to be careful and not get carried away with thinking he could beat everyone in the Saiyan Saga, and Vegeta, while he does have a large degree of Arrogance, is generally shown to be willing to swallow it in exchange for cementing his win. If he see's that the Scouter say's she's stronger, he's at the very least likely to be somewhat wary and not willing to chance it.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Actually, Vegeta is shown to be much less underestimating of his opponents than Nappa. Numerous times Vegeta told Nappa to be careful and not get carried away with thinking he could beat everyone in the Saiyan Saga, and Vegeta, while he does have a large degree of Arrogance, is generally shown to be willing to swallow it in exchange for cementing his win. If he see's that the Scouter say's she's stronger, he's at the very least likely to be somewhat wary and not willing to chance it.

Vegeta still believes that he's very strong and since he can't sense energy, if he sees a high number he'd believe it malfunctions. He'd soon realize that he was wrong, but at first he wouldn't believe it

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Actually, Vegeta is shown to be much less underestimating of his opponents than Nappa. Numerous times Vegeta told Nappa to be careful and not get carried away with thinking he could beat everyone in the Saiyan Saga, and Vegeta, while he does have a large degree of Arrogance, is generally shown to be willing to swallow it in exchange for cementing his win. If he see's that the Scouter say's she's stronger, he's at the very least likely to be somewhat wary and not willing to chance it.

I really don’t get why Dragonball supporters are claiming he’s arrogant to the point of foolishness.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Vegeta is arrogant in the fact that he believes his own hype.

He's not arrogant to the point where he'll ignore the fact that he's at a clear disadvantage in a fight.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

He would not believe it at first though. Again, this also happened to other characters like him who are so sure of their power

 

[Godernet]

Vegeta still believes that he's very strong and since he can't sense energy, if he sees a high number he'd believe it malfunctions. He'd soon realize that he was wrong, but at first he wouldn't believe it

Tbf his behavior vs Goku is more of a circumstance. Goku lost to Raditz a year prior and was suppose to be a lower class warrior so he blew his top the second he saw that same Goku started to beat his ass. The act of turning Great Ape to beat a lower class saiyan was already a defeat to him. But he still recognizes when people are stronger than him like the Ginyu Force or Frieza.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Tbf his behavior vs Goku is more of a circumstance. Goku lost to Raditz a year prior and was suppose to be a lower class warrior so he blew his top the second he saw that same Goku started to beat his ass. The act of turning Great Ape to beat a lower class saiyan was already a defeat to him. But he still recognizes when people are stronger than him like the Ginyu Force or Frieza.

Yes, but he knows the powers of both Frieza and the Ginyu Force. Aside from them, Vegeta is pretty much one of if not the strongest regular Frieza Force fighter (with the excpetion of Zarbon and Dodoria), and Vegeta doesn't often encounter random beings stronger than him

 

[Godernet]

Also if we’re saying Sakura would just punch the Galick Gun away he’d probably go Oozaru if he sees her do that.

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

Yes, but he knows the powers of both Frieza and the Ginyu Force. Aside from them, Vegeta is pretty much one of if not the strongest regular Frieza Force fighter (with the excpetion of Zarbon and Dodoria), and Vegeta doesn't often encounter random beings stronger than him

Actually, Vegeta was kinda considered a weakling by the force, seeing as he was seen as a rival to Cui of all people

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Well he'd not use the form immediately, so Sakura will definitely beat the crap out of him before

Oozaru Vegeta also have slower movements so Sakura could dodge his attacks

 

[Godernet]

Yes, but he knows the powers of both Frieza and the Ginyu Force. Aside from them, Vegeta is pretty much one of if not the strongest regular Frieza Force fighter (with the excpetion of Zarbon and Dodoria), and Vegeta doesn't often encounter random beings stronger than him

But if he read on his scouter that there was someone on his level this Vegeta would probably believe it and be wary since he’s very scouter dependent at this point. Goku’s very existence was an insult to him a fight with a random strong earthling wouldn’t have as much personal stake to him.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Actually, Vegeta was kinda considered a weakling by the force, seeing as he was seen as a rival to Cui of all people

Not at all. On Namek there was barely anyone who was close to Vegeta's level

In fact, Frieza sended, Zarbon, Dodoria and the Ginyus precisely because no one else could stop Vegeta. If andom goons would be above Vegeta, then he'd send them instead

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

Actually, he wouldn't even know what race Sakura is- There are several Aliens that share human like appearances, so she could be any of these to him.

 

[Godernet]

Well he'd not use the form immediately, so Sakura will definitely beat the crap out of him before

Oozaru Vegeta also have slower movements so Sakura could dodge his attacks

Sakura can’t fly so after a few hits she probably won’t keep him on the ground long enough for him to decide to change tactics.

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

Not at all. On Namek there was barely anyone who was close to Vegeta's level

In fact, Frieza sended, Zarbon, Dodoria and the Ginyus precisely because no one else could stop Vegeta. If andom goons would be above Vegeta, then he'd send them instead

Because that Vegeta went Rogue and became several times stronger after fighting Goku

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Actually, he wouldn't even know what race Sakura is- There are several Aliens that share human like appearances, so she could be any of these to him.

It doesn't matter what race he'll think she is. He normally doesn't encounters aliens this strong

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Because that Vegeta went Rogue and became several times stronger after fighting Goku

His PL jumped to 24,000 from 18,000. Even in the wiki standards it's not several times

18,000 is pretty impressive, especially since Namekians with PL of 3,000 could battle the Frieza Force soldiers

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

His PL jumped to 24,000 from 18,000. Even in the wiki standards it's not several times

18,000 is pretty impressive, especially since Namekians with PL of 3,000 could battle the Frieza Force soldiers

In verse at the time, that's a significant jump, seeing as he went from jobbing against character's like Cui to beating the crap out of Dodoria at that time period, who would be overall at minimum the 8th strongest member of Freiza's army at the time (Including Freiza himself, The Ginyu Force, and Zarbon all being stronger than Dodoria). Freiza sent his stronger warriors at Vegeta because he knew that even though he was weaker than them before, Saiyan's can grow exponentially after a near fatal encounter. It was a calculated move to make sure that things went smoothly, even though we know they didn't.

 

[Godernet]

His PL jumped to 24,000 from 18,000. Even in the wiki standards it's not several times

18,000 is pretty impressive, especially since Namekians with PL of 3,000 could battle the Frieza Force soldiers

A jump from 18,000 to 24,000 was enough for him to no sell Qui who was also 18,000. And destroy Dodoria who was 22,000.

 

[Godernet]

Well he'd not use the form immediately, so Sakura will definitely beat the crap out of him before

Oozaru Vegeta also have slower movements so Sakura could dodge his attacks

Oozaru Vegeta isn’t slower. Even in his profile he has higher attack speed than base.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

He would not believe it at first though. Again, this also happened to other characters like him who are so sure of their power

Did it happen with Vegeta?

because there sure as hell are counter arguments against that.

So you can’t make such a hasty generalization with Vegeta. He has been shown to be cautious and to even warn Nappa (who is one of those you’re generalizing him with) to be cautious.

 

[Zencha9]

What is even

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

So you can’t make such a hasty generalization with Vegeta. He has been shown to be cautious and to even warn Nappa (who is one of those you’re generalizing him with) to be cautious.

He warned him to be cautious of the Kienzan, not Krillin's power level

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

He warned him to be cautious of the Kienzan, not Krillin's power level

What does that matter. It means he can recognize a great threat and be cautious of it. That skill applies here as well.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

The full moon occurs at a specific date and time… you should know where I’m going with this.

Thus spoketh SBA.

Anyway, the great ape is a 10x multiplier on speed and power right?

Meh sure, although I'm not sure the 10x multiplier is accepted as it's not on his profile.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Meh sure, although I'm not sure the 10x multiplier is accepted as it's not on his profile.

Should be accepted iirc.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Sakura FRA.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Should be accepted iirc.

But where tho

 

[Godernet]

I don’t see it on Vegetas profile but in Gohans it has:

Great Ape: A transformation into a giant ape that takes place under a full moon. Increases his speed, strength, and hearing ten-fold.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

If he does have a 10x amp without a power debuff from the artifical moon I think it's an AP stomp and not acceptable cause the diff from 78 and 590 ZT is about 7.5x (which I believe is just about the border of what's considered an AP stomp)

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Also where on Gohan's profile is that? I didn't see it.

 

[Godernet]

Also where on Gohan's profile is that? I didn't see it.

my fault it was Raditz's profile lol

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

If he does have a 10x amp without a power debuff from the artifical moon I think it's an AP stomp and not acceptable cause the diff from 78 and 590 ZT is about 7.5x (which I believe is just about the border of what's considered an AP stomp)

Except Sakura would have win conditions, just one's that are not even close to easy to pull off, meaning it's not enough of a stomp to not be allowed. Vegeta needs to undergo the transformation first. And she does have that whole cell eating thing or whatever. It's just that 9/10 times Great Ape hit's and kill's her.

 

[SuperStar]

Looks like a decisive win for Vegeta

 

[SuperStar]

Never seen this many votes on a VS match up.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Never seen this many votes on a VS match up.

Oh you haven't seen anything until you've seen that legendary versus thread between Superman and DBS Manga Goku from a couple years ago. That shit had like 50+ votes on it.

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

Can't imagine the nightmare of counting up the votes of that...
Anyways Goku beats Sup-

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Except Sakura would have win conditions, just one's that are not even close to easy to pull off, meaning it's not enough of a stomp to not be allowed. Vegeta needs to undergo the transformation first. And she does have that whole cell eating thing or whatever. It's just that 9/10 times Great Ape hit's and kill's her.

Well it's on Raditz's profile but not Vegeta's so it doesn't count Also if it's starting from strongest forms immediately then 100H Sakura might still win.

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

Well it's on Raditz's profile but not Vegeta's so it doesn't count Also if it's starting from strongest forms immediately then 100H Sakura might still win.

That is just absurd reasoning.

And from what I know, the 100H stuff hasn't been accepted yet.

 

[Vizer04]

I don't even know if grace ended