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So, I have got a bunch of new Valiant Pages. I have made them on AFW but will link here - think of them as sandboxes. All tiers and any abilities that might not fit here will be removed accordingly to fit standards:
Master Daruqe Revisions
The Darques: Soulside #1
Resurgence of the Valiant Universe #1:
There is some more stuff for many other characters, but I would need to split them over a few different threads, and also waiting for a few books to end, which should be coming to an end soon.
- Faith
- War Mother
- Agent Nix
- Eidolon
- Infomercial - He would be Low 2C
- Quantum and Woody
Note: This blog is subject to updates as soon as new information comes out.
Earth is a sentient entity - a God - in Valiant Entertainment, a being with a mind and will of its own. Earth has vast amount of powers, ranging from power bestowal to resurrection, empowerment and environment manipulation, and more. The entity creates Geomancers to protect it from harm.
Earth is populated with other Gods, such as the God of Dead, and the God of Darkness. These Gods wages war on one another to reign supreme, but Earth doesn't want that. Which is why she creates Geomancers and employs agents like the Eternal Warrior to protect her.[1][2]
Tier: 3-D/5-B
The size of the universe is infinite. David Camp, a man who is almost omniscient stated that the size of the universe is not "finite".[3]
The universe is written on information and equations,[4] it is like a computer and the Geomancers[5] are the developers/editors who can amend this reality if and when needed.[6]
Tier: 3-D/High 3-A
There is a Chronology Protection[7][8][9][10][11][12] in place, as such, the past - and the future - cannot be changed in the Valiant Universe.[13] No matter how hard one tries, the universe will rectify[7] it. For example, when Myshka went back in time to make Soviet the lone super power, it did not work.[13] And when Myshka tried to bring down the Berlin Wall, it didn't work until the time was right.[13] There will always be something standing in their way to somehow keep the equilibrium going. In Myshka's case, it was also Divinity who was undoing her changes to the timeline.[14] However, small events, which has limited consequences on the universe can be altered, albeit it is still not an easy task.
Evil Robot also couldn't change the past, so instead, he erased time itself in bits and pieces to destablise the space-time continnum. Then he was able to go to the far past and try to remove the original living entity which originally had led to the birth of humanity. However, even then, a group of heroes and a villain were able to stop his plan. This is how the universe was able to rectify temporal tempering.
The future is also set in stones for the Valiant Universe. Their futures are already written, and can be changed, but the Observer exists so those futures are not tampered with/changed. [3][13][15]
In addition, in order to destroy a timeline, one must find a way to get rid of the temporal tampering. If that's not removed, a timeline can never be destroyed. Chronology Protection also makes it hard to traverse to other realities[11] to prevent tampering.
Tier: 4-D/Low 2-C
Deadside is the afterlife[16] itself in Valiant.[16] It is the world of the dead and the ghosts,[17] and the ugly reflection of the universe.[18] The Deadside is a higher reality/space-time,[17] that rides on the back of the universe like a parasite[19] and can absorb the[20] main reality into itself[21]. Deadside is said to be the world between[21] worlds.[22]
In size, the Deadside is infinite, similar to the main[23] universe as it mirrors the living world[24] in every way - cosmologically, at least, and has it's own time.[25] It can be accessed from anywhere across the universe and used to reduce the travelling distance between stars and galaxies.[26]
In Deadside, the flow of time and space is different than it is in the mortal plane.[27] Samedi stated, the mind of a mortal cannot understand Deadside, even something as advanced as nanites.[27]
Deadside is made of countless realms, each operating under its own laws[28].
Tier: 4-D/Low 2-C
The creatures of Deadside are demon like entities, ghosts, and other monsters who are ultimately the dark reflection of living creatures.[23] They come into existence[22] from the greed, fear, and other emotions of those in the living world.[18] Some of its creatures are seemingly spread throughout time and space. And it is implied that these creatures operate on a different axis.[29]
It's a computer, a God Computer, which holds knowledge on everyone and[29] everything throughout the space and time.[30]
One of the many planes in Deadside is called Dreamside[28], the plane of dreams - where dreams die when they are forgotten or abandoned[31]. One with a strong will can revive that dream and use the properties of this plane to gain immense power, capable of performing great feats[31].
Dreamside, like other Deadside realms, have its own laws that are beyond the laws of the normal world[28].
Loas are ancient creatures - Gods of great power who exists to bring balance to the cosmos.[25] The new Abettors were able to siphon the energies of the Pantheons to stop the Deadside - a higher space-time - from merging with the living world[32]
Tier: 4-D/Low 2-C
Beyond time itself,[33] next to heaven, there are countless hells.[34]
Tier: ??/??
Heaven is a place beyond space and time[35] where it gives the word eternal and eternity true meaning.[34]
Tier: ??/??
A place of worship and divinity, a place of knowledge and wisdom. Lyceum exists beyond the time and space of the normal worlds,[36] it is an other-worldly plane inaccessible to most.
Tier: ??/??
There is God, a being who seemingly exists beyond the reach of anyone and everyone. Master Darque planned to collapse the Deadside into the Living Side and have the former "eat" the latter. Once the Living Side was turned into necromatic energy, he would take it and absorb it, gaining enough power to finally come face-to-face with God.[17]
Tier: ??/??
It is an infinite[37] sized multiverse.[38]
Every universe is inside its own bubble space that defies the very concept of "moving", making it harder to traverse between them[11].
Tier: 4-D/2-A
A dimension without time, which can be threatened[12] if all realities are turned into null worlds - in other words, erased from existence[10].
Tier: ??/??
There is a thing called the Ante-Space, a place outside the multiverse. Once you get "divorced" from the multiverse and end up here, you can view every single timeline as bubbles.[39]
The multiverse encompasses Deadside (Another reality that is riding on top of the main universe like it's ugly reflection[40].), Heaven (Heaven is a place beyond space and time[41] where it gives the word eternal and eternity true meaning[42]) and Hell (Beyond time itself[43]), Elysium (Even beyond the likes of Hell and Heaven).
Tier: 4-D/2-A ?
The creator - or perhaps creators - was confirmed to be from a higher dimensional plane of existence and created this multiverse and its infinite realities.[38]
Tier: 5-D/Low 1-C
So currently, the cosmology of Valiant is capped at 5D, however, I found some new evidence for existence of another dimension. The actual 5th Dimension.
There exist a fifth dimension, whose inhabitants move through the 4th dimension along multiple axis as we move through 3-dimensional universe.
Oblivi-1 is at the edge of space-time, where everything is about to end, which cannot be reached by conventional 4th dimensional time travel, and these 5th dimensional beings are the only ones who can get there.
So, I think it's safe to say their 5th dimension could qualify for 5-D.
Here are all relevant scans
Tier: 5-D/Low 1-C
The Unknown is a metaphysical[44] extra-dimensional[3] plane of unreality[45], where imagination and belief of the collective gives it its form[46]. It operates in[47] an odd manner as if it is[48] a book/narrative.[49] The residents of the Unknown are semi-aware of their status as fictional beings. As such, the powers they have can interwind fiction with reality.[50] Wielding the metaphysical energies of Unknown grants it's users advanced abilities that warps reality and grant wishes, as well as transform people and things into their desired state.[50]
The plane is beyond the barriers of reality itself, beyond human understanding and is infinite[51]. Due[49] to it being made of imagination, it is almost like a fictional setting by itself. [46] The Observer, an inhabitant of the Unknown, but also special, speaks in "ideas" and "abstractions"[52]. According to Divinity, they can "imagine" even timelines as fiction.[46]
This entire dimension is built on belief - whatever one might believe, it can be reality.[48] This also affects the lower wolds when they are inhabitng it. Whilst on a lower plane, X-O Manowar tried battling an being from the Unknown - Atom-13, but he kept losing. His weapons were no match for it, however, Jamie Capshaw's normal military rifle managed to damage them. Atom-13 noted that she was more of a warrior at the moment, thus her normal attack was able to hurt them.[50]
In order to get to the Unknown, Divinity needed to pierce through many layers of reality itself to reach this place[53]. The inhabitants of the Unknown refers to regular universes as "outside" realities - likely because they are considered more real[54], and these beings existing in these realities contaminates them.[55]
David Camp, a being with near omniscience said, in this place, there is infinite power and knowledge, waiting to be taken.[56]
The Unknown encompasses everything below it, including Ante-Space (place between realities), 5th Dimension, higher dimensional Creators (who created the infinite multiverse[57]) and more.
Tier: 6-D/Low 1-C
The Observer, who is a resident of the Unknown, albeit stronger than them can view all of time and space from this place in the forms of bubbles.[58] He is holding all of time and space together, and without him, it will cease existing.[59][60] All of existence will fall apart without an Observer.[58] He can edit time and remove an obstacle if it proves too fatal for the universe.[61]
In order for an Observer to regain their power, they need to ascend to a higher plane through the bridge. If someone[62] other than the Observer ascends, they get erased from narrative[58]. He is the only one who can survive in it.
Tier: 6-D, 7-D when ascended to the dimension beyond the portal/Low 1-C/1-C
Beyond the portal in the Unknown lies[15] a higher dimension which can only be accessed from the Bridge. It is a doorway to an even higher dimension which is inaccessible to many, except for the chosen one - the Observer. If someone were to enter it, they will be removed from existence, and likely narrative.[49]
Tier: 7-D/Low 1-C
Elders of the Universe was a term used to described higher-dimensional beings who viewed the entirety of Valiant Entertainment as nothing but fiction. They can create and edit stories of the verse as they wish it. And if things get bad, they can always "reboot" the verse and start over.[63]
Tier: 8-D/1-C - Or Low 1-A, I am a little lost on the new tiering
Canon
Valiant Entertainment
- Futures are canon to the present day
The Earth
Earth is a sentient entity - a God - in Valiant Entertainment, a being with a mind and will of its own. Earth has vast amount of powers, ranging from power bestowal to resurrection, empowerment and environment manipulation, and more. The entity creates Geomancers to protect it from harm.
Earth is populated with other Gods, such as the God of Dead, and the God of Darkness. These Gods wages war on one another to reign supreme, but Earth doesn't want that. Which is why she creates Geomancers and employs agents like the Eternal Warrior to protect her.[1][2]
Tier: 3-D/5-B
The Universe
The size of the universe is infinite. David Camp, a man who is almost omniscient stated that the size of the universe is not "finite".[3]
The universe is written on information and equations,[4] it is like a computer and the Geomancers[5] are the developers/editors who can amend this reality if and when needed.[6]
Tier: 3-D/High 3-A
Time
There is a Chronology Protection[7][8][9][10][11][12] in place, as such, the past - and the future - cannot be changed in the Valiant Universe.[13] No matter how hard one tries, the universe will rectify[7] it. For example, when Myshka went back in time to make Soviet the lone super power, it did not work.[13] And when Myshka tried to bring down the Berlin Wall, it didn't work until the time was right.[13] There will always be something standing in their way to somehow keep the equilibrium going. In Myshka's case, it was also Divinity who was undoing her changes to the timeline.[14] However, small events, which has limited consequences on the universe can be altered, albeit it is still not an easy task.
Evil Robot also couldn't change the past, so instead, he erased time itself in bits and pieces to destablise the space-time continnum. Then he was able to go to the far past and try to remove the original living entity which originally had led to the birth of humanity. However, even then, a group of heroes and a villain were able to stop his plan. This is how the universe was able to rectify temporal tempering.
The future is also set in stones for the Valiant Universe. Their futures are already written, and can be changed, but the Observer exists so those futures are not tampered with/changed. [3][13][15]
In addition, in order to destroy a timeline, one must find a way to get rid of the temporal tampering. If that's not removed, a timeline can never be destroyed. Chronology Protection also makes it hard to traverse to other realities[11] to prevent tampering.
Tier: 4-D/Low 2-C
Deadside
Deadside is the afterlife[16] itself in Valiant.[16] It is the world of the dead and the ghosts,[17] and the ugly reflection of the universe.[18] The Deadside is a higher reality/space-time,[17] that rides on the back of the universe like a parasite[19] and can absorb the[20] main reality into itself[21]. Deadside is said to be the world between[21] worlds.[22]
In size, the Deadside is infinite, similar to the main[23] universe as it mirrors the living world[24] in every way - cosmologically, at least, and has it's own time.[25] It can be accessed from anywhere across the universe and used to reduce the travelling distance between stars and galaxies.[26]
In Deadside, the flow of time and space is different than it is in the mortal plane.[27] Samedi stated, the mind of a mortal cannot understand Deadside, even something as advanced as nanites.[27]
Deadside is made of countless realms, each operating under its own laws[28].
Tier: 4-D/Low 2-C
Deadside Creatures
The creatures of Deadside are demon like entities, ghosts, and other monsters who are ultimately the dark reflection of living creatures.[23] They come into existence[22] from the greed, fear, and other emotions of those in the living world.[18] Some of its creatures are seemingly spread throughout time and space. And it is implied that these creatures operate on a different axis.[29]
The Intelligence Mechanism
It's a computer, a God Computer, which holds knowledge on everyone and[29] everything throughout the space and time.[30]
Dreamside
One of the many planes in Deadside is called Dreamside[28], the plane of dreams - where dreams die when they are forgotten or abandoned[31]. One with a strong will can revive that dream and use the properties of this plane to gain immense power, capable of performing great feats[31].
Dreamside, like other Deadside realms, have its own laws that are beyond the laws of the normal world[28].
Loas
Loas are ancient creatures - Gods of great power who exists to bring balance to the cosmos.[25] The new Abettors were able to siphon the energies of the Pantheons to stop the Deadside - a higher space-time - from merging with the living world[32]
Tier: 4-D/Low 2-C
Other Planes
Hells
Beyond time itself,[33] next to heaven, there are countless hells.[34]
Tier: ??/??
Heaven
Heaven is a place beyond space and time[35] where it gives the word eternal and eternity true meaning.[34]
Tier: ??/??
Lyceum
A place of worship and divinity, a place of knowledge and wisdom. Lyceum exists beyond the time and space of the normal worlds,[36] it is an other-worldly plane inaccessible to most.
Tier: ??/??
God
There is God, a being who seemingly exists beyond the reach of anyone and everyone. Master Darque planned to collapse the Deadside into the Living Side and have the former "eat" the latter. Once the Living Side was turned into necromatic energy, he would take it and absorb it, gaining enough power to finally come face-to-face with God.[17]
Tier: ??/??
Multiverse
It is an infinite[37] sized multiverse.[38]
Every universe is inside its own bubble space that defies the very concept of "moving", making it harder to traverse between them[11].
Tier: 4-D/2-A
Other Dimensions
Timeless World
A dimension without time, which can be threatened[12] if all realities are turned into null worlds - in other words, erased from existence[10].
Tier: ??/??
Ante-Space
There is a thing called the Ante-Space, a place outside the multiverse. Once you get "divorced" from the multiverse and end up here, you can view every single timeline as bubbles.[39]
The multiverse encompasses Deadside (Another reality that is riding on top of the main universe like it's ugly reflection[40].), Heaven (Heaven is a place beyond space and time[41] where it gives the word eternal and eternity true meaning[42]) and Hell (Beyond time itself[43]), Elysium (Even beyond the likes of Hell and Heaven).
Tier: 4-D/2-A ?
Creators
The creator - or perhaps creators - was confirmed to be from a higher dimensional plane of existence and created this multiverse and its infinite realities.[38]
Tier: 5-D/Low 1-C
5th Dimension
So currently, the cosmology of Valiant is capped at 5D, however, I found some new evidence for existence of another dimension. The actual 5th Dimension.
There exist a fifth dimension, whose inhabitants move through the 4th dimension along multiple axis as we move through 3-dimensional universe.
Oblivi-1 is at the edge of space-time, where everything is about to end, which cannot be reached by conventional 4th dimensional time travel, and these 5th dimensional beings are the only ones who can get there.
So, I think it's safe to say their 5th dimension could qualify for 5-D.
Here are all relevant scans
Tier: 5-D/Low 1-C
The Unknown and Beyond
The Unknown is a metaphysical[44] extra-dimensional[3] plane of unreality[45], where imagination and belief of the collective gives it its form[46]. It operates in[47] an odd manner as if it is[48] a book/narrative.[49] The residents of the Unknown are semi-aware of their status as fictional beings. As such, the powers they have can interwind fiction with reality.[50] Wielding the metaphysical energies of Unknown grants it's users advanced abilities that warps reality and grant wishes, as well as transform people and things into their desired state.[50]
The plane is beyond the barriers of reality itself, beyond human understanding and is infinite[51]. Due[49] to it being made of imagination, it is almost like a fictional setting by itself. [46] The Observer, an inhabitant of the Unknown, but also special, speaks in "ideas" and "abstractions"[52]. According to Divinity, they can "imagine" even timelines as fiction.[46]
This entire dimension is built on belief - whatever one might believe, it can be reality.[48] This also affects the lower wolds when they are inhabitng it. Whilst on a lower plane, X-O Manowar tried battling an being from the Unknown - Atom-13, but he kept losing. His weapons were no match for it, however, Jamie Capshaw's normal military rifle managed to damage them. Atom-13 noted that she was more of a warrior at the moment, thus her normal attack was able to hurt them.[50]
In order to get to the Unknown, Divinity needed to pierce through many layers of reality itself to reach this place[53]. The inhabitants of the Unknown refers to regular universes as "outside" realities - likely because they are considered more real[54], and these beings existing in these realities contaminates them.[55]
David Camp, a being with near omniscience said, in this place, there is infinite power and knowledge, waiting to be taken.[56]
The Unknown encompasses everything below it, including Ante-Space (place between realities), 5th Dimension, higher dimensional Creators (who created the infinite multiverse[57]) and more.
Tier: 6-D/Low 1-C
The Observer
The Observer, who is a resident of the Unknown, albeit stronger than them can view all of time and space from this place in the forms of bubbles.[58] He is holding all of time and space together, and without him, it will cease existing.[59][60] All of existence will fall apart without an Observer.[58] He can edit time and remove an obstacle if it proves too fatal for the universe.[61]
In order for an Observer to regain their power, they need to ascend to a higher plane through the bridge. If someone[62] other than the Observer ascends, they get erased from narrative[58]. He is the only one who can survive in it.
Tier: 6-D, 7-D when ascended to the dimension beyond the portal/Low 1-C/1-C
Beyond the Portal
Beyond the portal in the Unknown lies[15] a higher dimension which can only be accessed from the Bridge. It is a doorway to an even higher dimension which is inaccessible to many, except for the chosen one - the Observer. If someone were to enter it, they will be removed from existence, and likely narrative.[49]
Tier: 7-D/Low 1-C
The Writers
Elders of the Universe was a term used to described higher-dimensional beings who viewed the entirety of Valiant Entertainment as nothing but fiction. They can create and edit stories of the verse as they wish it. And if things get bad, they can always "reboot" the verse and start over.[63]
Tier: 8-D/1-C - Or Low 1-A, I am a little lost on the new tiering
Refs- ↑ Eternal Warrior Vol 2 4
- ↑ Fallen World Vol 1 1
- 1 2 3 X-O Manowar Vol 4 20
- ↑ Archer & Armstrong Vol 2 7
- ↑ Archer & Armstrong Vol 2 8
- ↑ Archer & Armstrong Vol 2 9
- 1 2 Ivar, Timewalker Vol 1 2
- ↑ Ivar, Timewalker Vol 1 3
- ↑ Ivar, Timewalker Vol 1 7
- 1 2 Ivar, Timewalker Vol 1 8
- 1 2 3 Ivar, Timewalker Vol 1 9
- 1 2 Ivar, Timewalker Vol 1 11
- 1 2 3 4 Divinity II Vol 1 3
- ↑ Divinity II Vol 1 4
- 1 2 Eternity Vol 1 1
- 1 2 Shadowman Vol 4 3
- 1 2 3 Shadowman Vol 4 9
- 1 2 Shadowman Vol 6 7
- ↑ Shadowman Vol 6 4
- ↑ Shadowman Vol 6 5
- 1 2 Shadowman Vol 6 1
- 1 2 Shadowman Vol 6 2
- 1 2 Valiant Universe Handbook 2019 Vol 1 1
- ↑ Shadowman Vol 5 3
- 1 2 Shadowman Vol 5 1
- ↑ Incursion Vol 1 1
- 1 2 Bloodshot Salvation Vol 1 8
- 1 2 3 Faith: Dreamside Vol 1 3
- 1 2 Ninjak Vol 3 20
- ↑ Ninjak Vol 3 21
- 1 2 Faith: Dreamside Vol 1 4
- ↑ Shadowman Vol 6 8
- ↑ Wrath of the Eternal Warrior Vol 1 1
- 1 2 Wrath of the Eternal Warrior Vol 1 11
- ↑ Wrath of the Eternal Warrior Vol 1 14
- ↑ Shadowman Vol 4 2
- ↑ Doctor Tomorrow Vol 2 3
- 1 2 A&A: The Adventures of Archer & Armstrong Vol 1 9
- ↑ Ivar, Timewalker Vol 1 11
- ↑ Shadowman Vol 6 7
- ↑ Wrath of the Eternal Warrior Vol 1 14
- ↑ Wrath of the Eternal Warrior Vol 1 11
- ↑ Wrath of the Eternal Warrior Vol 1 1
- ↑ Valiant Universe Handbook 2019 Vol 1 1
- ↑ Eternity Vol 1 1
- 1 2 3 Eternity Vol 1 3
- ↑ Eternity Vol 1 2
- 1 2 Eternity Vol 1 3
- 1 2 3 Eternity Vol 1 4
- 1 2 3 X-O Manowar Vol 4 Deluxe Edition Book 2
- ↑ Eternity TPB
- ↑ Eternity Vol 1 4
- ↑ X-O Manowar Vol 4 20
- ↑ X-O Manowar Vol 4 Deluxe Edition Book 2
- ↑ X-O Manowar Vol 4 21
- ↑ Eternity Vol 1 4
- ↑ A&A: The Adventures of Archer & Armstrong Vol 1 9
- 1 2 3 Eternity Vol 1 4
- ↑ Eternity Vol 1 2
- ↑ Eternity Vol 1 3
- ↑ Eternity Vol 1 1
- ↑ Eternity Vol 1 1
- ↑ Bloodshot Reborn Annual 2016 Vol 1 1 - Secret Convergence War of Infinite Squirts
Master Daruqe Revisions
The Darques: Soulside #1
- Flight
- Perception Manipulation - using Signs of the Snake, he can become unseen.
- Telekinesis of sort
- Reality Warping
- In the future (Rai: The Book of the Darque #1 and #2), in the war between Darque and Father, they are distorting time and reality on massive scale, and Daruqe had become a different kind of entity capable of affecting the whole world. Book ended abruptly so we never got to see the extent of their effects.
- Energy Manipulation addition - created a construct
- Scan addition to his portal creation
- He doesn't have a heart - might be interesting to note that somewhere.
Resurgence of the Valiant Universe #1:
- His resurrection should be full now. He can resurrect anyone now, but with some of their memories missing - that's still to be perfected. I cannot share the scans right now, because some of them have nudity in it. But to explain the scene, he resurrected Flamingo, who has been dead for 6 - 8 years now, and she has only half of her memories - she doesn't remember her friends and her time as Harbinger, but remembers the other stuff. It's unknown whether the half are deliberately removed by Dr Silk or it's a coincidence.
- I can share this scan from the second issue tho, which is mostly related to the memory bit.
- Can communicate with others via Necropathy - addition to his telepathy
- Addition to NPI - Did this to Samedi
- Additions to intellect - studied in various other countries and dimensions, enabling him to use stronger forms of magic, which allows him to warp reality. Source is The Darques: Soulside #1 - 2
- He has also internalised Hexoplasms (some weird magical language/signs that have powers in valiant), absorbing its powers. This allowed him to gain access to Chaos Magic.
- Other additions
- He mixes occult with science to achieve greater effects. The Darques: Soulside 2
There is some more stuff for many other characters, but I would need to split them over a few different threads, and also waiting for a few books to end, which should be coming to an end soon.
