Instant Death cosmology upgrade

[SweetDao]

I'm going solely of off the OP and the first page but I'm not seeing anything higher than High 1-B here. The so-called Reality-Fiction transcendence doesn't even have a scan.

You can check my post/counter arguments here.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

You can check my post/counter arguments here.

SweetDao currently

 

[Dishano]

I'm going solely of off the OP and the first page but I'm not seeing anything higher than High 1-B here. The so-called Reality-Fiction transcendence doesn't even have a scan.

Okay, since you agreed that Higher level universes are H1-B,

Wouldn't The Space be Low 1-A, because it encompass and above all infinte dimensional space.

Meanwhile Ultimate Ensemble World would be Baseline 1-A, because all worlds with different fundamental laws all existed nested within each other in a mini spheres, and life forms, this includes Ultimate God at that place watch over it and can also influence it.

"Hmm. Even the Ultimate God can’t win, you say? Of course not, and I have no intention of fighting. I value my life. I plan to continue watching over the 'world' indefinitely!"
(Volume 15)

"By the way, I'm often called the Ultimate God. Tell me to stop saying it? I'm aware it sounds embarrassing, but being able to know all worlds and exert influence, it's inevitable to be called that, don't you think?"
(Volume 15)

This means Life forms in Ultimate Ensemble World are Reality Fiction Transcendence over those worlds.

 

[KingNanaya]

I'm going solely of off the OP and the first page but I'm not seeing anything higher than High 1-B here.

pretty sure nested universes, regardless of amount, wouldn't even be high 1-B. The part trying to justify there being some form of QS is referring to the amount of universes. the "dimensional space" part is wrong, as it actually translates to multiverse.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Since I might as well do it...


1 - "dimensional space" is a wrong translation, as explained here.
2 - You gave no proof as to why they transcend each other infinitely. Also, it's false.


No only does this doesn't prove there are infinite universes, but nothing remotely gives High 1-B, again, please do learn the tiering system and how dimensional scaling work.



That "Space" doesn't exist. If you make the effort of reading the paragraph, you should see it's talking about the current worldview.

There are worlds (Celestial Foundation), the space outside of them (The Sea) and something even beyond that (Higher Universe that encompass the Sea).


Nope. It just doesn't exist.



No scan + false.



No scan + false.



Technically correct since it's the sum of everything that exist, but still false regarding the tiering.



He literally state in the scan you sent that he can't be sure there aren't worlds he can't sense or perceive. Those worlds as still within the UEW btw.



Nope. You still don't understand what "infinite dimensional" mean, again, I invite you to understand how our tiering work. Also, that's not how you get 1-A+.



Nice antifeat for any 1-A.

So yeah, disagree with the thread. It's poorly put together and doesn't bring anything interesting.

The counterarguments make way more sense

 

[Infinitinet]

This thread is to upgrade Instant Death cosmology. Pls read carefully...

1. Higher level universes

I will explain how big this place is.

The Higher level universes is superior to the Sea, all those universes have different fundamental laws, their own dimensional space, and they transcend each other infinitely.



How do we know that higher universes transcend each other infinitely?

- The fight with UEG and Touichirou, there was "no end to the cycle" of transcending and destroying higher universes.

Similar words to "no end to the cycle" are "infinte" and "endless."

So Higher level universes would be H1-B.

The exact quote was "there should have been no end to the cycle but suddenly there was." As stated in your own evidence this can't be used to show an endless hierarchy since there was an end to the climb.

2. The Space

In Volume 14, The space was brought up when Fujitaka was explaining how big the ID cosmology is.



This space is above and superior to higher level universes.

Anybody in this place would see Higher level universes and the other lower places (Sea & Heavenly Records) as fiction,

(Reality Fiction Transcendence)

Because in Instant Death, Life forms can't perceive and transcend to higher worlds if they don't have enough power, and Life forms in higher worlds would see lower worlds as fiction.

This would put The Space at Baseline 1-A.

There is no evidence of this view reality as fiction in the quotes.

3. Ultimate Ensemble World.

Ultimate Ensemble World is a place that is beyond The Space, and "apparently" is the structure of the Instant Death cosmology.
(1 layer into 1-A)

“Apparently,” because it was impossible to observe the entire universe/ID cosmology.
(Volume 14, Chapter 9)

This topic was brought up again two more times:

★ "There were some who treated this as all that existed, since it comprised the entirety of the territory perceptible to the most intelligent life forms on these worlds."
(Volume 14, Chapter 9)

Notice the "Some."

It means that there are some people that know that Ultimate Ensemble World isn't the end structure of the Instant Death cosmology.

★ in Volume 15, Ultimate God turned a blind eye saying that there are no other worlds outside the Ultimate Ensemble World.



And going by the theory many gods believe in, which Kouryu's explained to UEG, Ultimate Ensemble World would have infinte space and time, and universes contained in larger universes and so on.

"universes contained in larger universes and so on in Ultimate Ensemble World is proven right.

"Worlds with different fundamental laws all existed nested within each other."

So the theory gods believe in, where infinte space-time dimensional in the Ultimate Ensemble, it would make Ultimate Ensemble World 1-A+.



Note: Total collection of universes = Instant Death cosmology

Instant Death cosmology doesn't stop at Higher level Universes and Ultimate Ensemble World, there are other worlds above them.

Like i said before Ultimate God who's currently the most intelligent life form living in the Ultimate Ensemble World acknowledged that they are other worlds above Ultimate Ensemble World, he can't perceive it and turned a blind eye to it.



In Instant Death, Life forms can't perceive and transcend to higher worlds if they don't have enough power.

Tldr:

- Higher level universes should now be H1-B, because the fight with UEG and Touichirou, there was "no end to the cycle" of transcending and destroying higher universes. Those higher universes have their own dimensional space.

Similar words to "no end to the cycle" are "infinte" and "endless."

- The Space reality-fiction transcendence The Higher Universes. 1-A.

- Ultimate Ensemble World is superior to The Space and would be 1 layer into 1-A.

But if we use the theory many gods believe in, which Kouryu's explained to UEG, Ultimate Ensemble World would have infinte space and time, and universes contained in larger universes and so on, 1-A+.

There were an unknown number of universes nested in others thus failing to meet the infinite hierarchy of High 1-B much less 1-A+.

I disagree with the thread for the reasons stated above.

 

[Planck69]

pretty sure nested universes, regardless of amount, wouldn't even be high 1-B. The part trying to justify there being some form of QS is referring to the amount of universes. the "dimensional space" part is wrong, as it actually translates to multiverse.

Yeah, now that I've read the other counter-arguments, I can see that it doesn't even fit that tier.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

This has been completely rejected then. I will close this and open one of the other pending ones.