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Plot is not mentioned, he says script. And he does not need to say it to be or not be fate.
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Upgrade for the Gods ability. Maou Gakuin
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Dang if he meant fate.. he would say it as he always say it.
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Is that not the same scan as the first scan in the OP? One says script and the other says plot, so I would at least like confirmation on which translation is more reliable before properly responding.
Something being referred to as 'meta' is about 1/1000th of the evidence you need for plot manipulation. 'Meta-fate', as far as I'm concerned, is meaningless here.
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My point stands.
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I just want to prove that my translation is correct
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筋書き通り Translate this. Quick search is enough
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So anyone will not get another issue about the translation
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That's not the issue. Even if the translation is 100% correct, something being called 'meta-fate' is not evidence of plot manipulation.
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I already addressed this didn't I? I said the only who gets plot manipulation is the chief hod eques ( the chief god is a HDE, the will of the world and the world's order. He is the world itself) and here he says they're following a script he has written.
Also maybe you didn't see it cause I edited it later, but look at this
This is even more metaphorical than what is here, with 0 iterations of the world being a plot or script he wrote. He only uses it to describe the difference between them
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Plot is script
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Okay, lets assume it is. Taking the actual context into account, Eques is referring to his machinations that led everything to that event. Everything that he planned in accordance for the world (which is him). You gonna need more than just this.
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Don't drag other verses into this discussion guys,please.
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But he always says fate when he manipulates fate. Here he says they're following a script he has written.
Also, can we not have everyone replying at once?
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So what your issue here
The scan literally says script and like i says above dont seperate the theater and the script thing's because they is corresponding
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We are not assuming anything.
筋書き=Plot
筋書き, 筋書, すじがき, sujigaki - Nihongo Master
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English words for 筋書き include plot, outline and synopsis. Find more Japanese words at wordhippo.com!
No, clearly Eques states that everything follows the script/plot he planned, there is no mention of Fate but Plot, and what is shown is that Sasha and Misha are following just what Eques planned, following his plot.
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All the other context that others say is flowery language is added to this context where it is seen that Eques also controls the plot of both humans and gods, it is an addition. Anyway, it's 4 am here, time to sleep.We are not assuming anything.
筋書き=Plot
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No, clearly Eques states that everything follows the script/plot he planned, there is no mention of Fate but Plot, and what is shown is that Sasha and Misha are following just what Eques planned, following his plot.
Edit. The world is just a playground for the gods, for Eques even the gods are like a game before his plot as seen in the scan.
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We are not assuming anything.
筋書き=Plot
筋書き, 筋書, すじがき, sujigaki - Nihongo Master
synopsis,outline,plot - Meaning of 筋書き, 筋書, すじがき, sujigaki. See complete explanation and more examples and pronunciation.What does 筋書き (Sujigaki) mean in Japanese?
English words for 筋書き include plot, outline and synopsis. Find more Japanese words at wordhippo.com!
No, clearly Eques states that everything follows the script/plot he planned, there is no mention of Fate but Plot, and what is shown is that Sasha and Misha are following just what Eques planned, following his plot.
Before I go, I hope miraculously no one ignores will this. I'm still neutral.
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Complicating for no reasons...
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Not dragging them in. I'm just trying to say that because it was used metaphorically doesn't disprove it especially when the supposed metaphorical statements are only used as supporting evidence
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We are not assuming anything.
筋書き=Plot
筋書き, 筋書, すじがき, sujigaki - Nihongo Master
synopsis,outline,plot - Meaning of 筋書き, 筋書, すじがき, sujigaki. See complete explanation and more examples and pronunciation.What does 筋書き (Sujigaki) mean in Japanese?
English words for 筋書き include plot, outline and synopsis. Find more Japanese words at wordhippo.com!
No, clearly Eques states that everything follows the script/plot he planned, there is no mention of Fate but Plot, and what is shown is that Sasha and Misha are following just what Eques planned, following his plot.
Did you forget plot has more than one meaning?
Now read my latest reply and read the first and third meanings. See if they match.
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From what I've seen, this can also refer to a synopsis or outline. In those cases, fate manipulation would be more than appropriate, I believe.
...Okay? One guy gets plot manip if this goes through, cool. Doesn't change the fact that the evidence for said plot manip is extremely flimsy. I will ask again: What is the evidence that script is being used to refer to literal metafictional plot elements and not literally anything else?
Different verses, don't care. The evidence I am seeing right here, for this specific verse, is not enough for plot manipulation.
My issue is that you are claiming the mention of 'meta-fate' somehow proves plot manipulation. It does not, and that scan has 0 evidence of plot manipulation or anything related to it.
A mention of a script and theater, regardless of how they are connected, does not prove plot manipulation. Nothing here has suggested to me that these statements are unquestionably literal and aren't just metaphors.
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3rd is verb therefore its irrelevant. You mean first and second. And I am sure 2nd is literally the meaning of it
Did you forget plot has more than one meaning?
Now read my latest reply and read the first and third meanings. See if they match.
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The word can be used to show about Eques processing of what he planned.We are not assuming anything.
筋書き=Plot
筋書き, 筋書, すじがき, sujigaki - Nihongo Master
synopsis,outline,plot - Meaning of 筋書き, 筋書, すじがき, sujigaki. See complete explanation and more examples and pronunciation.What does 筋書き (Sujigaki) mean in Japanese?
English words for 筋書き include plot, outline and synopsis. Find more Japanese words at wordhippo.com!
No, clearly Eques states that everything follows the script/plot he planned, there is no mention of Fate but Plot, and what is shown is that Sasha and Misha are following just what Eques planned, following his plot.
筋書き: it can also refer to assumptions , means , and methods of proceeding in order to proceed as intended .
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By your logic no verses gets plot manipulation.
No order is set no matter what no one can change ur except for Eques. He is the one who written than.
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Yeah but like.... why? What reason is there for the 2nd meaning to be more likely than the 1st?
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What you show clearly don't go with that. You guy try to take to litteraly a word.
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???? Explain, please?
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The evidence is his normal fate machinations already going beyond what normal fate manipulation can do and here he says they're following a script he has written and "he" is literally the order of the world
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Because it is relevant to the context... dude you are rly complicating for no reasons, this also shows that you did not bother reading any scans. Dang? How is it even 1st? It makes no sense. Every word has multiple definitions. According to your logic, we need now to prove the reason why it is 1 or 99th. Dang, read the op thread and u will notice it is 2nd meaning.
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Naw u ain't serious trying to tell me why it is not first or second. Brother? Bother reading the OP and scans?
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Except that he didn't do anything. He wasn't actively controlling them, he wasn't doing anything. They were just following a script he has written.
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Can you read what you wrote? The first meaning is referring to a piece of land. What does land have to do with this?
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You don't need to do actively control to make them follow what you want tho. And do you have the part where it's talk about him writing this script?
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No bro, this does not even bother me. He literally did not read anything what OP says, the question itself is so stupid
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Huh where do you see piece of land? He litteraly talk about the 3 definition that Oblivion show...
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Its literally stated as script/Plot and order and fate are clearly distinguished in the verse. Only chief gods has order/Plot manipulation. Here you are just Ignoring the main point that's all.
Explain what. All I see is you people are appealing to ignorance on first point.
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Something being beyond normal fate manipulation is not plot manipulation in the slightest. Neither is being the order of the world. I will ask once more: What proves that this script/plot is a literal metafictional element, and nothing else?
Yes, that's usually how VS debating works. You have claimed a word with multiple definitions has a specific definition in this context. It is now up to you to prove that the definition you have singled out is the most likely one. I have not seen such proof, and I have read the OP and accompanying scans.
No it isn't??????
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Alright, it's different from fate, I'll give you that. That doesn't mean it's plot manipulation though
I'm asking how my logic means no verses get plot manipulation.
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