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With new and better arguments! Continuation from this thread.
Frisk dodges the attacks that appear to be lightning bolts from Vulkin. In case it is accepted as actual lightning, this blog will be used instead of the current one, and everyone who is currently rated Supersonic/Supersonic+/Hypersonic/Hypersonic+ via this feat will become Massively Hypersonic+ instead. All of the arguments in favor and against are below.
- Vulkin himself saying “Thunder!” right before doing his lightning attacks. These two articles explain that thunder cannot actually occur without a real lightning.
- Those attacks come from a cloud.
- We also know in Undertale Magic are actual elements which is shown to us when Toriel manipulates Fire or Papyrus creates actual Bones which is accepted in this wiki (see Rebuttal).
- Vulkin himself is currently rated as 8-B. (The whole main reason of this feat being rejected as lightning feat was due to Vulkin being below 8-C at the time. Now this changed, meaning it’s out of the way)
Those lightning bolts do not behave or look like how the real lightning should.
We have a note on Undertale verse page:
Moreover, monsters do use magic, and although it is same as their real counterparts, it does not mean that they can’t manipulate it to apply those attacks better in combat (in Vulkin’s case, to use them in Danmaku style to attack Frisk). For example, fire does not naturally come in fireballs and obviously does not move like it does in Toriel’s fight, the reason why these fire attacks act this way is due to Toriel manipulating her magic to shape fire and direct it, so why can’t Vulkin do the same?
Electricity does not travel like that too, however this wiki accepts those attacks being real electricity just fine. Same thing should be done to the argument that it is a real lightning.
Moreover, monsters do use magic, and although it is same as their real counterparts, it does not mean that they can’t manipulate it to apply those attacks better in combat (in Vulkin’s case, to use them in Danmaku style to attack Frisk). For example, fire does not naturally come in fireballs and obviously does not move like it does in Toriel’s fight, the reason why these fire attacks act this way is due to Toriel manipulating her magic to shape fire and direct it, so why can’t Vulkin do the same?
Agree: 8 (@ShionAH, @StrymULTRA, @Homie890, @AyeZ2, @SJG13673 [With likely MHS+], @Lord_Farquaad69420, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Sir_Marvulous, @Propellus)
Disagree: 0
Neutral: 1 (@Psychomaster35)
Disagree: 0
Neutral: 1 (@Psychomaster35)
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