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Ignore him, he's using random easter eggs and irrelevant meta stuff as evidence.
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Ignore him, he's using random easter eggs and irrelevant meta stuff as evidence.
No way his ass ignoring Kris' save files:skull:Nah he's cooking,you'll see in Chapter 7.
When apparently sans and flowey says that all those resets and stuff are involved with time getting warped all over the place?Since when a reset has to involve time in its definition? It only means restoration.
You're basically cherrypicking now, forgetting "sent back" on a funny purpose.Sans doesn't know about True Reset, and Flowey never said that True Reset needs time, just that it'll rip off everyone from the timeline and erase everything.
Again your bias. Can't live without it or you will be dead in 5 seconds?So, again, argument from incredulity.
Ah I'm sorry then, forget what I saidTbh it kinda makes sense, but that'd require another CRT to add to all the monsters that thing, and I'm just updating the resistance that the characters currently have.
So you can make your own CRT for it lol, idrc.
Tbh it kinda makes sense, but that'd require another CRT to add to all the monsters that thing, and I'm just updating the resistance that the characters currently have.
So you can make your own CRT for it lol, idrc.
"Dormmamu, I've come to bargain."It's not. Character can use time hax in worlds without time, same how they can soul hax soulless stuff or mind hax mindless stuff.
BTW I think that white save files are superior to yellow oneYes, but they aren't ready for that discussion yet.
I pirated themJust got my Legends of Localization and Passport to Undertale. That's around 150 dollars now of Undertale merch kekw.
Bro I live in Kazakhstan how tf I should get those books in first place?Cringe.
Kidding I'd be a hypocrite for saying that lmao.
Sans had complete dura neg? That's silly.So, guys, I have a thing that's bothering me for quite the time and I wanted your opinions on this:
Well, I did some research and I found out that there might be a bit of an inconsistency with the UT CRT of Dura Neg with the Sans part. Sans seems to be NO EXCEPTION when it comes to monsters limited durability, and I'll explain why.
First of all, I read about the CRT and the main reason why Sans is the exception is because people used to believe that, aside from the other monsters, there was no way for you to mitigate his damage by wearing conventional armor, but this seems to be a lie since, well, there IS a way for you to mitigate his poison effect with the Torn Notebook and Cloudy Glasses since these items combined increases your invulnerability frames, which I searched for in the wiki and they ARE considered part of durability, which means that THERE IS a way for you to tank Sans' KARMA damage poison a bit more with armor. And if you're able to do this, wouldn't that mean that Sans has NO TRUE DURA NEG, and just has a stronger level of limited durability negation compared to the other monsters? If so, I don't think we should keep Sans the exception anymore, which also means he should get back at having limited durability negation. What do you think about it?
Dura neg is not one shot by default, it not being one doesn't make it limitedSans had complete dura neg? That's silly.
Undertale characters damage souls but don't immediately destroy them because souls in Undertale have varying levels of durability and "HP". No Undertale character has some kind of one-shot hax move. Sans in particular can break souls extremely fast but not instantly, and it's not that he can't be resisted, it's that Sans does one damage per frame by the rules of the game or rather how he shifts them to suit his needs. He literally does one damage but does one damage so rapidly that it equates to being 30 damage per second. That's not durability negation that's just hax.
Misworded that.Dura neg is not one shot by default, it not being one doesn't make it limited
Also, all durability negation is hax, durability negation in itself is a hax
It's a general questionNo the ****? From where does it even come from?
It's because monster dura neg is shown to be affected by your actual durability (like wearing armor for example reduces their damage) but Sans' isn't, you can't lower his damage. However the thing Coffee brought up should disprove Sans as an exception, as you can lower his overall DPS even if not his raw damageMisworded that.
Anyways still I don't see why Sans dura neg isn't limited even regardless of the argument CoffeeBaiano made. But that adds to the reasoning.
Well, in his bio he still has complete dura neg, even tho you can mitigate his damage somehow. Should I make a CRT so we can see if we should reverse Sans' dura neg to limited like the other monsters? Because although Sans will always deal 1 DMG at you regardless of you DEF, invulnerability IS durability, which means that even tho this rule exists, there's a way for you to mitigate his 1 dmg making it hit slower and make the poison drain way slower as well.Misworded that.
Anyways still I don't see why Sans dura neg isn't limited even regardless of the argument CoffeeBaiano made. But that adds to the reasoning.
To be fair to bypass invulnerability is straight needed Dura neg. I don't get the dot of "DPS gets reduced from coffee" = "Sans can't harm beyond a certain level of dura".Well, in his bio he still has complete dura neg, even tho you can mitigate his damage somehow. Should I make a CRT so we can see if we should reverse Sans' dura neg to limited like the other monsters? Because although Sans will always deal 1 DMG at you regardless of you DEF, invulnerability IS durability, which means that even tho this rule exists, there's a way for you to mitigate his 1 dmg making it hit slower and make the poison drain way slower as well.
Yes, but if there's a way for you to actually lower the damage you get from Sans' invulnerability neg by gaining MORE invulnerability, then wouldn't that mean it's no different from monsters ability to bypass your DEF actually getting their damage reduced by the more you get DEF?To be fair to bypass invulnerability is straight needed Dura neg. I don't get the dot of "DPS gets reduced from coffee" = "Sans can't harm beyond a certain level of dura".
Invulnerability frames in UT are the same we see here in the wiki. It's just another way for Frisk to gain some sort of durability against the monsters as well by ignoring the rest of their damage for a bit.I dunno, I think I frames are one of those game mechanics that aren't canon in UT.
Like sure, your soul is "invincible" but wtf does that even mean? Does frisk actually become immortal for like a second after they get hit?
Isn't that because in UT 1 damage is the limit of a damage a monster can deal at you? I know we have Asriel reducing Frisk's life to 000000.1 but that was something completely apart and special since a huge set of determination was involved, and because at that point the game was basically being broken. Also, invulnerability is durability, and if you can, somehow, resist Sans' 1 dmg inducement by gaining more of it, then that should mean you can tank Sans' damages a bit more with invulnerability, which is durability as well.Yeah, this doesn't really mean anything for his dura neg. The glasses and notebook just resists his KR a bit, and even then it's not absolute. He's still ignoring your defense completely by dealing set damage
invulnerability is not durability, so i don't know what the argument here isYes, but if there's a way for you to actually lower the damage you get from Sans' invulnerability neg by gaining MORE invulnerability, then wouldn't that mean it's no different from monsters ability to bypass your DEF actually getting their damage reduced by the more you get DEF?
no, they are invulnerability and not Durability at allInvulnerability frames in UT are the same we see here in the wiki. It's just another way for Frisk to gain some sort of durability agains't the monsters as well by ignoring the rest of their damage for a bit.
Invulnerability is a hax though, not increasing the durability. You can even be 2-A and apply the same thing, KR would still work due to it still bypassing the inv frames.Yes, but if there's a way for you to actually lower the damage you get from Sans' invulnerability neg by gaining MORE invulnerability, then wouldn't that mean it's no different from monsters ability to bypass your DEF actually getting their damage reduced by the more you get DEF?
Sorry, I missworded. I'm not saying that invulnerability is the same as durability in their concept, I'm saying that Invulnerability adds to durability if you have, and the more invulnerability you have, the more it will add to your durability. Frisk is a good example of this since the more you have, the more you can ignore monsters' magic, even tho it is limited.no, they are invulnerability and not Durability at all
- Limited Invulnerability (INV should grant this, although it should be noted that INV only lasts for a few seconds)
Frisk
Frisk is the protagonist of Undertale and the eighth human to fall into the Underground. Virtually nothing is known about their life prior to their fall, as even their gender remains ambiguous. Being taken in by Toriel, they eventually decide to leave and explore the Underground to potentially...vsbattles.fandom.com
Yeah the thing is, is that really canon like, in-game?no, they are invulnerability and not Durability at all
- Limited Invulnerability (INV should grant this, although it should be noted that INV only lasts for a few seconds)
Frisk
Frisk is the protagonist of Undertale and the eighth human to fall into the Underground. Virtually nothing is known about their life prior to their fall, as even their gender remains ambiguous. Being taken in by Toriel, they eventually decide to leave and explore the Underground to potentially...vsbattles.fandom.com