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Ugo and Sinbad (Magi world explained)

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1.They have destiny manipulation

Solomons will was destiny and Sinbad rewrote it :

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-328?page=9

Sinbad was removed from the flow and became acausal

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-325-page-7.html


2.The Magi world is a multi layered structure comprised of worlds overseen by gods:


http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-324-page-4.html

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-329-page-9.html

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-329-page-10.html

The whole thing is that the power gap between layers is likened to that of the gap between an author and the characters of his works. Also how they describe the number of layers as endless. And finally how none of the gods on one layer can truly understand the purpose of their universe's creation, and therefore Ugo can freely change the role and power of the gods on any layer, and he seems to be in a realm beyond these layers completely.


3.Ugo = Almighty one that can switch places with them and destroy them

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-324-page-15.html

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-324-page-11.html


Ugo decides and rules over the multi layer structure which each layer is a world.


Thats why in his mere host body sinbad could crush both a god and his world in his hand (Il ilah)

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-329-page-11.html

Il ilah's eye alone was much bigger than many universes (see thread) :

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/468749


Gods Hierarchy (Endless hierarchy of worlds):

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-324?page=4

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-324?page=9


A universe = Lower order world :

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-324?page=8


A Universe in Magi = Countless/Endless others :

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-329?page=9


Finally the sacred palace ugo resides in is where the energy to create worlds circulates according to him hes also apart of the worlds as he is with il ilas worlds (Time doesnt flow there) :


http://www.mangamint.com/magi-324?page=2

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-324?page=11


PS: Sinbad explains that the layers of the structure are dimensions an endless amount.

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-329?page=15

And Ugo is above the structure itself so tier 1 is justified =)
 
i agree with all the things you said but what exactly do you propose should be changed now? (it is in a content revision section, ergo you want something changed right? otherwise this belongs to the general discussion section)

the magi verse profile page? and if that is the case, than in which way?
 
Ugo is ridiculously low balled if a universe is a lower rank world and he is apart of it and the rest i personally believe he falls somewhere in tier 1 but i'll leave to the dimensional experts
 
@Hakumon I think you need to explain point number 2 better. To me the most important part of the whole thing is that the power gap between layers is likened to that of the gap between an author and the characters of his works. Also how they describe the number of layers as endless. And finally how none of the gods on one layer can truly understand the purpose of their universe's creation, and therefore Ugo can freely change the role and power of the gods on any layer, and he seems to be in a realm beyond these layers completely.

That's all explained throughout chapter 324, and is much more important than the mere existence of a multilayered structure.
 
Ugo be upgraded to 1-A for being above a structure of endless dimensional layers


The upgrade is massive but everything is there honestly
 
Er... as we stated on the other thread, there's no telling whether all these layers are actually dimensional layers. Unless you have a statement that says they are, the best we can give is 2-A, and it might be Low 2-C or 2-C if it's anything like the "countless layers" Othinus put over the universe.
 
@Reppuzan here Ugo explains the gap between layers and their gods as the gap between an author and his writings, and this is further explained throughout the chapter. It seems that each layer has gods within its universes that created the universes of the lower layer, which in turn have gods within them that created the universes of the layer below them, and so on in an endless hierarchy.
 
Okay then, it seems alright to me.

Not sure how high it would go though, extra staff input would be required.
 
@Faisal arman this is at best regular 1-A or high 1B.

To be high 1A you essentially must have no superior but a tier 0 and be capable of anything that doesn't involve a tier 0 or something that is your perfect equal, since Sinbad still has a goal that he didn't achieve the moment he thought of it, he couldn't be high 1A.

@Dragonmasterxyz I've messaged Azzy and DontTalk, so I guess now we simply need to await a response.
 
Hm,. I also wondered if Ugo (and per extension possibly Sinbad) might qualify for 1-A when I read the latest Magi chapter.

I will ask DarkLK for input. He is our foremost expert concerning how the tiering system works.
 
Is there a scan that explicitly refers to the layers as "infinite" or "endless"? I just skimmed this, but the most prominent statements I noticed were "countless" layers, which assuming all layers function as higher levels of reality, is 1-B.
 
It seems like 1-B is the most accurate to me, personally.
 
Should that qualify for High 1-B, due to the dimensional difference, or as 1-A, due to that each lower layer is supposedly mere fiction to the one above?
 
Antvasima said:
Should that qualify for High 1-B, due to the dimensional difference, or as 1-A, due to that each lower layer is supposedly mere fiction to the one above?
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High 1-B, I believe. The reality/fiction difference is still only a difference in layers which can be quantified.
 
Endless layers is 1-B but no god governing his layer even knows the purpose of his layer.Ugo is the exception who has the power to manipulate the hierarchy to his whim he explains it.
 
@Azzy and Ant it seems as though the realm Ugo is in is completely beyond the layers (since he noted that it was completely beyond time, and he exists high enough that he's able to understand his intended goal and doesn't have a destiny, which supposedly no being in the layers can do) would that qualify them for tier 1A?
 
Well, one point that we have been avoiding is that just because Ugo and likely Sinbad supposedly have the abilities to climb the hierarchy, similarly to Umineko characters, does not mean that they have done so yet. So I think that they should only get a "Possibly potentially High 1-B" rating.
 
Blahblah9755 said:
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I am not sure. The same should logically be possible to do for something that exists perpetually at the top of said layers (as in, always infinite-dimensional as opposed to just being part of an infinite-dimensional structure), and being beyond the concept of time as a whole is apparently not worth much, at these levels. High 1-B seems more accurate, but I am not 100% sure, since I don't follow the series.
 
But since its ongoing i guess at least 1-B is fine since sinbad plans on devouring each god we should get better info anyways
 
Well, they apparently haven't ascended the hierarchy yet. Sinbad simply plans to do so.
 
i agree too, ugo/sinbad should get 1B to high 1-B,

following chapters will surely give more infos :)

PS: anyone noticed how the magi-verse turned from top tiers being island busters into infinite-universal scale? XD

even toriko and DBZ didnt have such a fast growing rate XD
 
So we should take 5 until its all there?

Fine by me but the destiny manipulation and acausality should be added.
 
@GreatestSin Ye lol


Oh and since the verse is so op now would the statement of fullpower djinns being country busters made be considered valid?
 
Ugo is Gods Hierarchy (Endless hierarchy of worlds)

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-324-page-10.html

the number of gods in magi countless and every god set his world each

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-329-page-16.html

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-329-page-10.html

ugo to be high 1B At least 1A because the world of magi confirmed to be countless layers Dimension ...


http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-329-page-10.html

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-329-page-17.html

and ugo is not bound by the concept of time

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-324-page-12.html
 
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