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Ugo and Sinbad (Magi world explained)

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It's the fact that the world's within them are treated as mere informatio

Even 3D world can be treated as mere information by 3D reality warpers.

You just don't understand how dimensions works.
 
Read number two Lol

The Magi world is a multi layered structure comprised of worlds overseen by gods


http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-324-page-4.html

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-329-page-9.html

Coutless layers = Infinite dimensional

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-329?page=9

Ps : Sinbad explains that the layers of the structure are dimensions an endless amount.

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-329?page=15

very easy to kill creatures higher being

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-329?page=10
 
EvilMegaCookie said:
2-A seems to be reasonable. Well, 2-C at a minimum is probably the safest to go until we know more. There is no point in jumping the gun this early. Just wait until the series is finished so we can gather all of the information in one go, rather than work on scraps and pieces.
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im more for doing it like right now,

waiting to long will make the infos to big to discuss everything in detail, and even if we go wrong in our interpretations we can always change them :)

2B was already decided a month ago or so in another thread, now that infinity became a thing too we get 2A, and in 4-5 chapters we should know if 2A or tier 1 will be used :)
 
However they treat the entire universe, the whole thing not just the 3D part, as information similar to a book, which in turn is treated and they and this information are treated as "3D" within their universe, which along with its 4th dimension are treated as mere information in a 3D part of the higher order universe and so on and so forth. When we have a situation where the full space-time of a lower universe is treated as a regular object in another universe, we consider that to be a dimension above, no?

This scan: http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-324-page-9.html displays a 4D being and a universe being treated as regular "3D" objects they then have a universe around them, which to the beings and gods on a higher plane is treated as a regular "3D" object, and so on and so forth.
 
a universe around them

It's only small room.

a universe around them, which to the beings and gods on a higher plane is treated as a regular "3D" object, and so on and so forth.

No. "Higher" god is only "bigger", but not infinitely bigger.
 
Hey guys!! how can you say Sinbad and ugo are in place 2B or 2A ? While david is far below ugo and Sinbad are in high places 2A -_- This does not make sense!


Said David >> "Hahaha! I finally did it ! I have finally become a God! I can repeat everything that exists in my mind, imagination and destruction! If I using this ÒÇÉHoly PalaceÒÇæ,which allows menot just being able to rule over this small star but also enable me to create an entire new infinite Universe…!!" if David was at High multiverse, how to ugo?

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-323-page-17.html

david confirmation is in high level 2A

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-324?page=15
 
I didn't mean literally in this instance, they discuss how the gods create universes that have their own space, fate/time, and life/gods within them, and that the gods then have their regular universe around them with its own space and fate/time which is treated as a regular object to those above them. The point of that scan was to show that gods treat the full lower universe as regular objects, space-time and all.
 
Two months ago Magi was 7-B at best. Now they're suddenly 2-A and closing in on tier 1. Talk about power creep
 
Stop abusing the words "Hierarchy", "Infinity" and "Dimensions".

Unless we have explicit evidence that we are talking about a hierarchy of Dimensional Space / Time, we cannot assume they are. The world hierarchy doesn't mean that each world is uncountably infinitely larger than the previous. That would be abusing vague statements.

High 2-A is logical, however.
 
http://www.*********.co/manga/magi/v20/c226/17.html

For instance, this page:

The "multi-layered structure" of the world is composed of three sheets of paper in his metaphor. The Physical World, The Vector World and the Spiritual World.

If it was TRULY Higher-Dimensional Structure, he'd say that the physical world is one sheet of paper and that the higher worlds were composed of infinite sheets. This is not what was stated. One world is not a higher reality than the previous.

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-329?page=9

This is not a Higher-Dimensional Structure, but a Mythological Cosmology. It'd be like saying that Buddhism is 1-B because there are 33 Heavens in it.

The universe is made of "Infinite Layers" of Gods each with their world. This means that the universe is actually an Infinite Multiverse. It's simple.
 
Again:

Physical World: Realm of Matter.

Vector World: Realm of Physics.

Spiritual World: Realm of Soul.

This is not Higher-Dimensional Cosmologies. The universe is multi-layered because there is are many components that define it's cosmology.

The second scan only confirms infinite multiverse.
 
I think you guys are kinda exageratting on the "infinitely" higher than each layer. From what I've seen so far, this would imply, just like A6colute and Matthew said, bigger worlds and Gods. I'm skeptical with the whole infinitely bigger and higher . Like, very skeptical.

And now with this recent scan, this is definitely NOT dimensions we're talking about with each layer. Otherwise, Matter, Physics and even Souls should all be IN THE SAME PAGE and dimension.

The next sheet - or layer - should be entirely and qualitatively superior to all the realms in the layer bellow, not a component of it like these are shown to be. So yeah. Higher? Yes. Infinitely higher dimension? Most definitely not.

Multiverse, sure. Tier 1? No.
 
ok, are they actually stated to be infinitely greater than the last one?


the higher the tier, the more solid the evidence must be, if the gap isnt tated to be infinitely greater than the last one, then i dont think we can take it as it is, how about just changing it to unknown for now untill we get more info?
 
@The Living Tribunal1

I think the confusion comes from it being the description of an infinite multiverse, except it is described vertically instead of laterally.

And the planes very clearly don't mean Higher and Lower Dimensions. The layers are the components of a world, or of a universe.
 
Anyways sinbad has feat actually he destroyed il ilah and his world that contained countless others according to him.

http://www.mangamint.com/magi-329?page=10

More proof would be that when ugo gave david divinity ugo says he switched the positions of gods more than one.David also states that he can create a infinite universe

.http://www.mangamint.com/magi-324?page=9

http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-323-page-17.html

So sinbad destroyed a multiverse in his hand which enough for 2-A
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
@The Living Tribunal1
I think the confusion comes from it being the description of an infinite multiverse, except it is described vertically instead of laterally.

And the planes very clearly don't mean Higher and Lower Dimensions. The layers are the components of a world, or of a universe.
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No the ranks are laterally read magi from chapter 323 to 329
 
Leaving the Tier 1-2 matter aside for a moment, would base sinbad get acausality(or something like that) for being able to maintain his sense of self even after being returned to the great flow?
 
My statement is thus:

Infinite Multiverse and High 2-A are logical and accepted.

Now, why is High 1-B not accepted:

- There is clear evidence that these layers do not constitute higher or lower planes of existence, at least not from a geometrical / spatial standpoint. The layers of the world are it's components.

- There is no direct statement that every god holds the god beneath him in the hierarchy as fictional. No, there is statements that gods hold humans and worlds as fictional. Unless we have direct statement, we cannot assume otherwise.

- Being in a Higher Plane =/= Higher-Dimensional. If it was otherwise, every fictional universe with a Heaven / Afterlife dimension would need it's inhabitants to be 4D or 5D. That simply doesn't exist.

- You guys keep using this page to claim 1-A, but you are ignoring this. There is no proof that each higher world is uncountably infinite above the previous. Quite the contrary, they are simply far higher.
 
He used david to get out of that "universe" but he was reborn after being killed and returned to the great flow.

Why 6-B?
 
Hakumon12 said:
King Vessel Sinbad is 6-B http://www.**********.com/adventure-of-sinbad-prototype/44/6
And guardian is At least 2-A or High 2-A likely higher

With destiny manipulation,acausality and can steal divinity : http://mangalife.org/read-online/Magi-chapter-329-page-11.html
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@Gabriel 00 here^

@Matthew it was already agreed to upon to wait so thats fine though they still get scaled to 2-A or High and get the missing abilities
 
Higher worlds =/= dimensional planes. This stuff is 2-A at best from what I have seen (and even then, I haven't so an infinite multiverse, just a big one).
 
Honestly, is there anything other than countless said about the worlds? Because if there isn't any "infinite" or "endless" (which would be mugen in Japanese), then they don't even deserve 2-A, only 2-B at most.
 
If you look up at Shin Megami Tensei, to give an example, you will see the Schwarzwelt, which is described as a structure composed of "Infinite / Countless Space-Time planes stacked upon each other".

Of course, this does not mean High 1-B, as it is simply Infinite Universes layered onto each other like a pile of pancakes. Othinus also has things relating to infinite layered worlds, and this doesn't confirm her being High 1-B.
 
So can someone add the destiny manipulation acausality and divinity stealing which i posted?

And change him to At least 2-A and his base 6-B since he already stated he was a country buster http://www.**********.com/adventure-of-sinbad-prototype/44/6
 
2-A: Multiverse level+

This category is separated in the following manner:

  • Multiverse level+: Characters who can destroy and/or create 10^500 to an infinite number of 4-dimensional universal space-time continuums.
  • High Multiverse level+: Characters who are 5-dimensional, and/or can destroy and/or create 5-dimensional space-time constructs of a not insignificant size.
^Countless >10^500 so still 2-A lol
 
Countless just means a very large number that it's hard to put a count on it, but in no way does it mean it's over 10^500 universes.
 
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