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Tsunade vs Minato

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Tsunade knows who Minato is and his techniques.

She still can't counter well because his teleportation = "Speed" stomp.

However if Tsunade gets a couple hits in it's game over.
 
Minato stomps, and kind of hard. Even with speed equalized & a blood lusted Tsunade, Minato kills within moments. His natural agility & fluidity makes him hard enough to hit even if he's matched in speed. Combine that with the Flying Thunder God... bye 5th. He can & will toss seal kunai all over the battlefield.

Even if Tsunade knows about Minato's attacks she has no way around it. She'll have to pray to hit him & pray even harder that he doesn't teleport if she would hit him the way he did against A. But all he has to do is dodge, stab her in the spin with a kunai, mark her in a quick "get in-get out" exchange, or bombard with lv2 rasengans. Minato with low difficulty.
 
How does Minato actually stomp? He's just hard to hit. Any time Minato gets in close to tag or stab Tsunade she can easily counter and smash him into the ground.

If Tsunade uses Katsyuu or 100 Healings Jutsu/Strength of 100, Minato is gonna have a rough time. He has no idea how to counter these. Spamming rasengan will waste his charkra and won't kill Tsunade when Tsunade needs to strike him several times.

If Minato had any range jutsu then I'd give the win closer to Minato, but since HE has to basically get into Tsunade's range I wouldn't say it's a stomp.
 
Minato can use body flicker too (used to catch Naruto from Obito), has SM which amps his stats and has shown entering it instantly, rasen senko cho rinbuko sanshiki, summons, seals , if he knows frog slap Tsunade likely gets wrecked but her healing would really be problem for Minato
 
This is alive minato so no Rasen Senko Cho...

Also, Minato doesn't use body flicker. (At least NaruPedia doesn't list him as a user.)

He also never used sage mode when alive.

Minato is only "fast" because of well placed tags via Kunai or seal.

So unless Tsunade is somehow stupid to not pay any attention to where he throws his kunais or Minato has prep and has already placed them. He ain't lol teleporting in and taking down Tsunade.
 
Dude what are you even saying? Rasen senko cho was the technique he used to defeat the Iwa army, he also used it to save kid kakashi once

He did use body flicker to grab baby Naruto before Obito could stab him and he didn't even mark the baby

He learned SM when he was alive but never used it because of his fast fighting style even though he has shown to be able to enter it instantly

Minato has naturally high reaction speed in his showings against the raikage and was also able to react to Madara's TSB before it hit 8th gate guy

Tsunade has no answer to Minato's speed and kunai techniques and her knowing where his kunais are placed won't do much as she is not fast like the raikage
 
Agreed, thank you. The problem is it'll be virtually impossible for her to make her strength useful since she'll likely never touch him & with evey close encounter he can easily mark her. That way if she tries to hide, run, attack and leaves herself open - he appears above or behind her & it's over. White yin seal will only prolong the inevitable & Minato's got chakra for days to have a drawn out battle. He went through hell the night of Obito & the nine tails spamming FTG, sealing, etc. & only by the end including splitting the nine tails chakra did he say he was running low.
 
Umm actually no, she was fighting a Madara with perfect susanoo and tanked several hits from such attacks

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And broke through it so again rasengan isn't doing shit in terms of stomp. Unless you can prove any of Minato's rasengan's are =/> Sussano blades (Madara's).

Also Minato was struggling with tailed beast level opponents, even draining most of his chakra attempting to teleport a tailed beast bomb.


So you have to argue that Minato's reaction speed is faster than Tsunade's which will be hard given she's comparable to Raikage who in turn would've blitzed Minato had he not thrown the FTG which can be proven but I'm not getting another scan so just go off of memory that Minato's physical speed didn't > Raikage's


(Plenty of Arguements to be made but again that ain't it cheif)
 
First Minato doesn't have to equal the Susanoo because the scan & the fight itself shows the Susanoo blade went through her with no difficulty, she didn't tank it she endured & healed it. That would be like saying a human should be wall level because he survived & healed from a gunshot.

And that's seal of 100 with regen. If she's in it she may heal, in which case he can stab her in the spine, rasengan to the face, whatever because she'll be at his mercy. Or outlast her until the seal wears off by forcing her to heal while concerving chakra.

As for speed Minato is faster than the raikage, in addition is faster than prime raikage. it's even stated that A is out of shape, so isn't as fast as he used to be. Another is Tsunade is nowhere near comparable to A. She fought with him like all of the kage did, raikage clearly was never using the speed he's known for. And for the endurance/heal, that's the reason she lived. Minato died sacrificing himself, that already makes him the winner in this fight lmao
 
ShadowChild'sReaper said:
First Minato doesn't have to equal the Susanoo because the scan & the fight itself shows the Susanoo blade went through her with no difficulty, she didn't tank it she endured & healed it. That would be like saying a human should be wall level because he survived & healed from a gunshot.
And that's seal of 100 with regen. If she's in it she may heal, in which case he can stab her in the spine, rasengan to the face, whatever because she'll be at his mercy. Or outlast her until the seal wears off by forcing her to heal while concerving chakra.

As for speed Minato is faster than the raikage, in addition is faster than prime raikage. it's even stated that A is out of shape, so isn't as fast as he used to be. Another is Tsunade is nowhere near comparable to A. She fought with him like all of the kage did, raikage clearly was never using the speed he's known for. And for the endurance/heal, that's the reason she lived. Minato died sacrificing himself, that already makes him the winner in this fight lmao
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> Implying Endurance doesn't = Durabilty

> Implying that Minato has higher chakra reserves than any senju let alone Tsunade who in turn has been shown to have higher chakra reserves such as Minato loosing his shit after the battle of tobi trying to contend with Nine tails and if weren't for Kushina would've gotten killed and wouldn't have the chance to sacrifce himself

whereas Tsunade fought numerous Perfect Susanoo around this level and was literally bisected and was still going even managing to keep the other Kage alive who were all beaten with an inch of their lives

> Minato had second to no other option but to sacrifice himself it was either that or Naruto which he paritally kinda did

> Again he teleported that wasn't his physical reaction

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As shown here several Kunai were thrown in order to succesfully "blitz" the raikage which was obviously FTG you can say he "reacted" by seeing it but he surely without FTG would've gotten killed just then


Also

> Implying Raikage was in his prime when he wasn't even Raikage yet
 
Yeah you aren't going to get this across because again you're implying Minato would be able to continuously FTG blitz tsunade untill he outlast 100 healings which wouldn't be the case and he doesn't even use it like how you're describing in char anyway
 
1 - never said endurance equals chakra, did say though she didn't not get stabbed, she was stabbed & healed. If she was as strong as Susanoo, the blade wouldn't have went clean through or cut her in half.

2 - never said Minato had more chakra than a senju or Tsunade. I said he could outlast, big difference. The seal of a 100 is proven to burn through chakra much faster than anything she has. Minato being as smart as he is will use this to his advantage - additionally you cay in character, I see bloodlusted in the op.

3 - fight with obito, spammed FTG, a resengan, FTG seal for tailed beast bomb & death reaper seal, I think he did well enough to suggest he's got the stamina to outlast. Tsunade fighting 5 Susanoo clone, is compelling, except that whole fight took place about 80% off screen. We saw her get stabbed, cut in half, she punch one in the back of the head, raikage stops a fist, Mei gets punched, Onoki & Gaara make a shield together, that's basically the whole fight summarized with the final Susanoo, etc.

4 - Minato could have confronted the nine tails another way, summoning gamabunta, potential sage mode, rasengan lv2 clone spam, but the story went with the outcome we got. Further supported - five kage can't beat spiral zetsu, 3rd hokage can fight him, minato superior to the 3rd, basic scaling sugjests he's stronger than tsunade.

5 - his reaction is what put that kunai behind raikage's head. He may not have been able to get out of the way normally but he did take that kunai by his hip & toss it up into the air behind A, teleport to another & teleport behind him himself before the raikage went a foot. I'd like to see Tsunade do that.
 
People downplay Minato's chakra levels and stamina too much. The guy teleported a TBB, fought Tobi, Summoned Gamabunta, teleported a full Kurama, used two sealing techniques got stabbed and still was able to survive for a minute or more and don't forget he learned SM which would require large chakra reserves his might be even higjer than Jiraiya's , Minato could actually blitz and poke out her eyes or something and she definitely can't heal that
 
Umm, he is certaintly not good at sage mode in the slightest he even says "It takes me too long to infuse chakra" and also admitted to it's short period. And implying Low-Mid: regen doesn't heal eyes and also no I am not...
 
ShadowChild'sReaper said:
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As for this you're using things I never said

1.) He implied durability and endurance were diffrent things I never talked about chakra. And even then an attack like that would have Killed Minato. And she wasn't using hundred healings at this poiint in time.

2.) His chakra reserves wouldn't outlast tsunade in the slightest is what I am saying...

3.) Legit did not use it more than 4 times and even then he was wayyyy past his limit

4.) Could have, Should have, Would have but he didn't. And he isn't superior to the 3rd Hokage that's another debate we could set up later... And again basic scaling Tsunade >>> Minato because Madara>>>>>>> Tobi and Minato =/> Tobi... Or if you don't want that Minato scaling below war arc Kakashi, who in turn scales to Madara's susanoo which yes for the last time Tsunade does scale to seeing as she if it weren't for edo tensei
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5.) His reaction doesn't matter he was getting blitzed if it weren't for FTG no physical feat of speed for MInato put him above tsunade... However that last reason there she doesn't have FTG but I bet you if she is doing that ^^^ (Blitzing Madara) even in the slightest when this happened


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Who was capable of blitzing sasuke >>>.


I am counting votes for Minato but literaly the ones I'm working with rn are not working for me you guys aren't using arguements of who alive Minato scales to that would help his case...
 
Tsunade has no sped feats comparable to Minato, that is a Madara wood clone and they're shown to be much weaker than original, Tsunade just has brute strength and Minato saying it takes too long to senjutsu is likely him being humble as he has shown entering it in an instant i clearly have no idea who'd win but Minato has better arsenal and speed including Body flickr
 
The Raikage never blitzed Sasuke, his attendant even commented on how they we're keeping up with him (but let's face it Jugo & Suigetsu were fairly useless).

Minato can outlast by not wasting chakra while Tsunade does. Well timed teleports, kunai, a rasengan or two will force her to 100 yin seal damage normal healing can't & then he can literaly run out the clock. If she goes out of it, he forces her back into it.

As for that scaling, please remember this was before all of Masashis recons, back when Hashirama's strongest jutsu was Deep Forest Emergence, not some 1000 buda god statue that used bijuu as toys. And even with that Minato is still one of the strongest ninjas in the show. Minato just has more than tsunade does to win vs Tsunade having to hit the man that nearly everyone in the show thought was untouchable.
 
ShadowChild'sReaper said:
The Raikage never blitzed Sasuke, his attendant even commented on how they we're keeping up with him (but let's face it Jugo & Suigetsu were fairly useless).
Minato can outlast by not wasting chakra while Tsunade does. Well timed teleports, kunai, a rasengan or two will force her to 100 yin seal damage normal healing can't & then he can literaly run out the clock. If she goes out of it, he forces her back into it.

As for that scaling, please remember this was before all of Masashis recons, back when Hashirama's strongest jutsu was Deep Forest Emergence, not some 1000 buda god statue that used bijuu as toys. And even with that Minato is still one of the strongest ninjas in the show. Minato just has more than tsunade does to win vs Tsunade having to hit the man that nearly everyone in the show thought was untouchable.
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Vote counted (Also Tobirama was still faster than Minato or just as fast not many people viewed him as "untouchable" when it comes to high teirs (before 4th war even) and also Raikage did blitz him if you see the manga the sharingan couldn't "keep up" with Raikage)
 
Ssr4vegito said:
Tsunade has no sped feats comparable to Minato, that is a Madara wood clone and they're shown to be much weaker than original, Tsunade just has brute strength and Minato saying it takes too long to senjutsu is likely him being humble as he has shown entering it in an instant i clearly have no idea who'd win but Minato has better arsenal and speed including Body flickr
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When have they demonstrated being much weaker? And I just showed you one, she kept up with Madara who easily kept pace with Raikage, even showing superior speed at points. And again please don't use the

"He was being modest" as first we never seen him use it alive and
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he literally outlines why he is bad at it >>>>>


And infusing chakra and using it are two diffrent things.
 
Thanks for counting the vote.

Tobirama even stated Minato was faster, plus he arrived on the battlefield before the others even though they all left a the same time, even leaving a kunai out at sea to divert the pseudo-ten tails attack.
 
Madara easily destroyed Hashi's would clones, they're highly inconsistent, percusving the raikage slow and throwing a kunai point blank is much better reaction feat, Tsunade might have kept up but Minato blitzes him, SM still matters as he has shown entering it instantly and is a perfect sage
 
The feats tobirama shown are more impressive if you don't wanna bring scans thats fine but show me any Minato speed feats (Other than the Raikage feat...)

> Blitzing Izuna who at the time was comparable if not equal to Madara (Who was superior to Tobi who even Minato struggled with and claimed is better at teleportation jutsu)

Izuna=Madara


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> Blitzing Juubito which Minato nor Naruto couldn't do (And Minato actually got blitzed)

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> Shown to dodge Revived Madaras attack

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> Also teleported 2 whole ass Kurama's behind Obito to attack his ass

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> And lastly was confirmed the fastest by Madara by the time of Madara's revive... GG

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