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Trafalgar Law vs Acnologia

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Gargoyle One said:
TBH Acno doesn't BFR in character
He do to ds and reson for that because onol ds can kill him.... Standard battle

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State of mind: In character, but willing to kill
In ft he only see DS so yeah that why he not use bfr normal human he even trow anna and ichiya back...so yeah in standard battle he will use bfr
 
Law FRA.

Law's room isn't a fixed range. It can be anywhere from a few meters, to many kilometers.

He can maintain it at this size for an extended period, even though it would "eat away at his life"--though that doesn't really matter if he wins. Btw, that's a 10km diameter. Flower Hill is roughly 4~5km in height.

Tact can telekinetically manipulate the trajectory of Acnologia's blasts, Shambles can easily swap Law and Acnologia's place, and Law obviously has his spacial cuts, which is OP by itself. He then has Injection shot, Mes, and Gamma Knife to bypass Acno's durability entirely.

Acno can one-shot, but Law can render him incapacitated in one hit. And I see Law being the likely victor since his spacial cuts can sweep across his entire room, and also slice apart Acno's attacks. There's no way Acno would be aware of the ability from the start, so Law might as well land a strike from the start, removing Acno's head from his body before Acno has fully assessed the situation.

Law dismembers Acno, surgically removes his heart w/ Mes, and then proceeds to stab it until Acno is dead.

The only way Acno is winning this is if he has some way to disable Law's DF, which he doesn't, or landing a blow from the start, which is not likely since Law can literally teleport away.
 
CinCameron20 said:
@Joseph - ? In what way is a DF or Haki equal to magic? neither are equalized.
DF gives you abilities like Ice Manipulation, Fire Manipulation etc which can also be done with magic. I don't see why DF can't be equalized for that reason. It's like saying genjutsu can't be equalized to telepathy since TP doesn't affect chakra networks. The application is the same.

Haki is a different case since it's application is unique to One Piece, and very specific.
 
What different exaly? DS not only resistebt to magic but nature as well like natsu he resisten to fire magic and nature well include curse
 
Devil Fruits change the composition of the user's body. Also, I don't see magic users being affected by the sea.

So you're saying anyone who has ice manipulation or fire manipulation automatically utilized magic? That's not true in a LOT cases.
 
@Omega - ??? What...?

@PaChi - it can't even be equalized though. Devil Fruits act more like a chemical reaction than magic anyways.
 
That's just a specific weakness of devil fruit, but that alone shouldn't disqualify verse equalization. Using sharingan makes your eyes painful or even bleed, but it's still telepathy. Not saying DF is magic obviously, but the application can be equalized.

No, but in One Piece case I don't see why DF is that different. Verse equalization is about flexibility, otherwise a lot of matches would be invalid due to most long running franchises have fairly complex energy mechanics which are not directly comparable. Only in rare cases they can be excused where it's impossible to equalize
 
As I said, if DF isn't magic then similarly genjutsu isn't TP, which would bring a lot of shitstorm. Let's not make things complicated.
 
CinCameron20 said:
@Omega - ??? What...?

@PaChi - it can't even be equalized though. Devil Fruits act more like a chemical reaction than magic anyways.
Actually, DF = a fruit that contains a demon that possesses the body of the eater and gives him X powers. It could actually be equalized.
 
CinCameron20 @Omega - ??? What...?

Which one? Example natsu resistent to fire it not just magic fire but other fire as well like nature fire,magic fire,curse fire etc
 
@Pachi - the ONLY person who EVER stated that was Jyabura of CP9, and he was contradicted by Blueno. It's not confirmed. All that is confirmed is that the composition of the user's body is changed depending on the type devoured.

sca

Devil Fruits are still a mystery, and Vegapunk is going to explain them whenever he is revealed in x amount of years.
 
@Cin

"Devil Fruits are still a mystery, and Vegapunk is going to explain them whenever he is revealed in x amount of years."

You mean decades right? ovo

"Devil Fruits change the composition of the user's body. Also, I don't see magic users being affected by the sea."

Just gonna point out that magic varies a lot from one setting to another.
 
@Pachi - i estimate seeing Vegapunk in like 8 to 12 years (unless he pops in during Reverie for whatever reason... that arc is going to be hype central)

But let's stop derailing. The fact remains that we do not equalize DFs with magic at this time, so Acno has no resistance to Law's spacial cuts at all.
 
I still think that Acno can nuke like Law's Room's totality in one swoop.
 
This is funny they start at max range Acnologia does one eternal flare and one shots law his room and rest of the battlefield. Law won't do anything under a barrage of thousands of projectiles.


Acnologia easily wins this.
 
@Blanked - refer to the Standard Battle Assumptions page. The max range permitted is 4 kilometers:

"Starting distance: The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is, but a maximum of 4 kilometers. If extreme advantages are generated via this distance to one side, a balanced alternative should be discussed in the thread."

^Still WELL within Law's radius. Also, Teleportation via Shambles closes the distance pretty quickly. And what about if Law just simply shambles himself with Acno after EF is thrown out? Acno gets hit by his own attack and either gets staggered or injured, letting Law have a moment to capitalize.
 
when you say that Acno wins easily but people are leaning towards law ovo
 
@Cin Acno can eat his own attack in that case. and still, Acno can nuke all of Law's room, so good luck teleporting. And Acno can fly away from Law's room.
 
Don't see a single reason to why Law will activate his room than teleport and kill acnologia before Acnologia kills him with 1 attack, they attack at same speed so he is not doing two-three things while Acnologia only 1 and lets not forget him teleporting Acnologia is stupid while he is costrected to dodge couple of thousand of attacks at the same time.

plus i would love to see him use shamble on his opponent on large distance. Before saying he can do something of the kind on 4km range while dodging thousands of attacks, i would love to see him doing even something similar.
 
Also its totally out of character for him to swap himself. He didnt even do it with doffy or Fujitora when he was cornered.

Edit: Then, at best he can change places with Dragon Acno, interdimensional Soul-swapping is not available
 
Magic can have physical alterations as well, look at Lost magics for example, their magics are so powerful that they cause actual effects to the body, but more radical than others.

and just like DF, Magic can be taken even after death.
 
@Pachi - PIS, and it was a joke.

@Blanked - They move at the same speed. Law making a room, then moving his arms a total of a few meters vs Acno nuking from 4 km away. Which is going to happen first?

Also, really... you guys think Law can't just spam his room + shambles until he is far enough away to be unaffected by the explosions? He can open new Rooms very quickly. It's how he saved Sanji from Doflamingo despite being incredibly far away before Doflamingo could finish his attack. He used a Room, Shambles, Room, Shambles back-to-back. you can't tell me that Law is going to be unable to do this in the time it takes Acno to fire off an attack from several km away. Law traveled many kilometers before Doflamingo could move his arm a few meters despite Doflamingo being the faster of the two in combat speed.

One, Two.
 
The farther Law goes from Acno the easier it will be for Acno to win because his range > Law's and his AoE is enough to nuke him. And Law needs something to swap places with, he cannot spam that trick forever.
 
Him travelling without obstacles and him traveling while thousands of attacks going at him are two different things, not to mention Acnologias attacks are nukes with AOE so he is getting hit easily and again its not even a first thing to use shambles nor has he used it against strong opponents in the end... And most important Acnologia can casually leave hi range as he essentially rises in air even further while launching eternal flare. And dont forget everything on the battlefield is being nuked so he doesn't even have many objects to use for teleportaion.

that said lets just say we disagree and thats it.
 
CinCameron20 said:
@PaChi2 - he can switch his body with even a pebble, which he can carry a lot of if needed.
Lol. I like your ideas. I imagine Law throwing pebbles around.
 
@PaChi2 - he probably would only need one. He can use Shambles and Tact to manipulate its location.

Like, say he's on the ground, and he throws the pebble up x kilometers into the air (he can throw a log a similar distance, so... yeah), then shambles with it, then uses Tact to throw it from his initial position to his next desired location.

Pseudo-flight via pebbles confirmed >:O.
 
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