By changing its name, a god changes its nature, which is evidence that a god’s name is only one aspect of their selves.
Predating reality means you are independent from that reality. Even if that reality was wholly erased, a being that predates reality would be fine because they never relied on that reality to begin with. It's quite simple.
i'm using the fossil in relation to spellcard naming not about names governing ideas or reality
exactly the reason why non God's naming things shouldn't be classified as Type 1 cocnept because they aren't really affecting the concept the Gods already gave name to.
If an ability like making fire function under a Type 1 concept because the type 1 concept governs it and abides by its law
Again, none of those examples are why names are type 1. You're taking the end result (all names being type 1) and assuming that's my evidence, when it's not (the real reason is that names created all of reality, including other type 1 concepts, and predate that reality as a result).
It's the exact same power though. If gods have type 1, then so do the non-gods who also use names. Keep in mind non-gods are stated to be able to give names to gods, which affects ideas spread across reality, so this isn't even right.
Except they're not just manipulating stuff that was created by those concepts. They're the ones making the concepts to begin with. You clearly do not even understand why Touhou's CM is a thing.
If you create reality, you logically have to come before it. You cannot create something retroactively, or at least we don't assume that by default.
??? There is no evidence for this theory.
Hey Dread, can you make a thread yesterday today? If you think that's impossible, please come back and see if my prior statement makes more sense.
Here is the logical fallacy, we are talking about a god that constantly creates impossibilities, so to make a logical argument on someone whose nature is paradoxical is a weak argument.
Okay? Just because gods can do something impossible IRL, that doesn't mean we assume they can do everything. That'd be an NLF. So is there any evidence that reality came before names despite names creating it?
You did not really refute anything. There is not a single evidence for “predating”, let alone being independent. This is literally head canon and just based with no scans.
Cause and effect is a headcanon now? Oof, looks like causality manipulation will have to go, it was fun while it lasted.
And you forget Plank being neutral? It is 1:2 (1 disagree two neutral)
Off-topic question: You guys planning more justification replacements and getting rid of outdated stuff?
Irrelevant, I could use the same argument for MG source without giving any scans. Stop with headcanons and show the evidence of “predating reality” that you came with.
Yeah, we definitely are. We wanna reshape the whole verse, fix old justifications, get proper stats and evidence and such in
Hell, I am still interested from where “Independence” coming from. This is the whole argument for CM type 1, and there are no scans for that.
Wait, who's the second neutral person? Rn it's one agree (pending further response), two disagrees, and one neutral vote.
Yeah, Touhou's a big verse though so I'm holding off on doing any changes until I coming through everything. It'll probably be a while lol.
And the grace is not even 48 hours and there is no conclusion, yet. So I am not sure why you are creating a conclusion right now.
Qawasd, Plank neutral, and only one disagreement. According to you, content moderators don't count
I never said that. Pretty sure that was Pein, and you can clearly see I included Dereck in the MG thread vote tally.
The grace period only applies to accepted threads IIRC.
I... never said to close the thread? I just made a vote tally so people don't lose track. Here's a new one since I missed Planck last time:
Yeah, calc members and content mods votes do not count, although their opinions is highly placed, but in the end results, it would be the admins and thread mods
Well Dread needs to make a decision then, because either this thread is mostly disagreed upon, or the MG thread is mostly agreed upon and can be applied (though I do personally count calc members and content mods).
So let's imagine 2 Content mod and 1 calc mod agree but 1 thread mod disagree, so thread mod > ?
It'd be either 2:1 or 3:1. That is suitable enough for a revision to be applied. But this discussion is derailing this thread, so we can continue it over on the MG thread if you want.
No, can we discuss it in your heart?
Unfortunately I tore out my own heart a while ago.No, can we discuss it in your heart?
The world has never been fair. in the same way you can delete a page and approve or deny a page creation and calc members can approve a calc even if 20 thread mods disagree, that shit is crazy ngl. I think the point is that everyone has their own roles here
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