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Toppo Upgrade

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We gotta give reasons tho.

Something like: "Obtained the power of a God of Destruction, and so should likely be on the level of one. Curbstomped Golden Frieza and Android 17 at the same time".
 
Definitely a Low 2-C. His power was stated to be equal to that of a God of Destruction, and he was clearly shown being able to use Hakai energy to an infinitely more powerful extent than Sidra.

It wasn't likely comparable to, it was literally stated to be GoD level. Which means that Jiren hasn't even shown an inkling of his true power yet.
 
Also Spoilers tell he will be fighting Vegeta, and in the preview he is throwing vegeta around and visibly damage him. Low 2-C Toppo when the next episode comes out next week is highly likely. But I think we should wait.
 
He was literally stated to be GoD level so yeah, Toppo upgrade time.

We just need a good picture for his new key.
 
We should wait? What? His Power is of a GoD, he's going to throw Vegeta around next Episode, and he's basically the second strongest guy in this Tournament as of this moment.
 
@Dziga

I don't think we should wait. It was literally stated to be GoD level and was shown visually in that he curbstomped Freeza and 17, as well as being able to use Hakai. This isn't like the Vegeta + Goku upgrade thing where we have to keep putting it off due to a lack of statements/feats. We don't need to postpone every single update to DB characters, it's kind of becoming annoying.

Not to mention this also confirms "Destruction Energy," being the exact same as Beerus' Hakai technique.
 
It should also be stated that his Hakai energy was superior to even Sidra's, as Freeza was barely able to survive against it and it cracked the entire stage. Not to mention even Beerus was shown being visibly worried about the Hakai energy getting near the rafters.
 
I've said this before and I'll say it again.

They better have an explanation for Jiren's ridiculous power. Like he must have been trained by grand priest at this point.
 
I'm willing to bet Jiren at full power is going to be Angel level at this point.

RIP to all those people downplaying Toppo though.

"he's fodder lol, regular KK SSJB would kill him kek"

Honestly with Toppo affecting infinity like he did (and he did, he changed the entire world of Void) how is Jiren gonna outdo this? Toppo REALLY stole a lot of his shine.
 
I hope he isn't Angel level. While he is powerful I just don't see him one shoting an GoD's while extremely casually supressed like Whis.

And I agree. Now Toppo is the hype.
 
The Toppo downplay was massive, there were people saying he was only SSJ2 level and that Blue Goku was apparently casually beating him around.

Some thought that at best he was SSJ3 level.
 
Poinciana1971 said:
The Toppo downplay was massive, there were people saying he was only SSJ2 level and that Blue Goku was apparently casually beating him around.

Some thought that at best he was SSJ3 level.
>A God of Destruction candidate being SSJ2 level to SSJ3 level max.

Yep. Definitely massive. If being a GoD candidate was that easy then Android 17 would slam him to the ground.
 
Keep in mind too that Toppo is now the THIRD individual to affect an infinite realm, in that he cancelled out the Grand Priest's spell, and his energy poured out over all of it. Not to mention even Jiren and Goku's powerups didn't break the stage.
 
If you look closely at the scene, he didn't just warp it, he bent it. (Similar to how Zeno's finger bent space)

And beerus said he hasn't mastered the hakai yet and all Gods can likely do this
 
He didn't say he hasn't mastered it. He said that he has to charge before he uses it.
 
Keep in mind that his Hakai was far more powerful than Sidra's though, and Sidra had likely "mastered," it.
 
Yeah. But this should scale to Beerus and the other Gods.

So: Low 2-C, Existence Erasure and Soul Destruction, Reality warping (Warped WoV), Spatial manipulation (?) He did bend the WoV if you look closely, Hakai barrir
 
I think Toppo should have a second key that's Low 2-C.

Also to be fair Sidra only gave his minion a tiny portion of his power to use. It being weaker than Toppo putting far more of his power to directly fight someone isn't the best of comparisons.
 
Basically.

3-A | Low 2-C

Though just

Base | God of Destruction

would work better.

I can apply the upgrades if allowed to (not to toot my own horn, but I do a good job >~>)
 
I disagree with Toppo being more powerful than Sidra. Sidra's Energy of Destruction was casual where as it was stated that it takes time for Toppo to charge up a comparably effective Energy of Destruction.
 
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