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Top Five Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier 8: New Forum, same rules

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They are not even particularly strong, since they cannot do anything against the previously mentioned characters...
 
it is because anos really cant interact with ain due to his ae 2 on a type 2 concept while he also beats everyone below him due to passive EE and Void on a 4D scale from a type 2 concept
Currently anos can incon with characters with CM 2.... The only thing left to do would be to make a referrer thread....
 
Wait can Anos get back from getting BFR'd to outside the countless 2B Multiverse?(yall using 2B Shulk right?)
(oh gosh if i will back down of saying this)
 
Everything will change if in the future thread anos manages to get CM 2.... There is already a lot of information, although it may still be rejected so I have no illusions.
 
IIRC we had a debate regarding time based powers being smurf here some time ago. So is time stuff that affects the past/future still smurf due to 4D range or not?
Asking for Hatou.
 
We made an exception for time powers IIRC. If it's just time travel, time slow and acceleration or time stop then its fine. Affecting the entire space-time continuum significantly might be smurf though.

Depends on the context of the powers.
 
Range: Universal+ (Her observations can affect the entire universe, its past and its future), Can switch between infinite possibilities
pretty sure this is smurf
 
Range: Universal+ (Her observations can affect the entire universe, its past and its future), Can switch between infinite possibilities
pretty sure this is smurf
It's based on time-based powers. Like, the power literally started out as time travel and Hatou later just learned to jump straight to the result of the time travel instead.

Edit: Btw. which key of Klein is #1 9-B? Lots of them seem to have interdimensional range and I'm not sure whether that's smurf or not.
 
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Time powers (within limits) and interdimensional range was decided to not be smurf.

Regarding Tokyo Babel - it was also decided that if the only thing holding a character/series on a slot being Acausality type 5 or anything that make them unable to be interacted/killed but otherwise they would lose because they can't defeat or icon a foe then they would be removed. Ex: Character X fights Y. Y has type 5 and can't do anything to X to defeat/incon him but X can defeat Y if type 5 didn't exist then he would take the place. Basically, Y must have a way to win and against X and not just have a state of being which makes them unable to be affected.
 
tokyo bable guys do have offensive hax. They have nigh infinite mind hax,law hax,conceptual death hax and causality
 
They can have hundreds upon hundreds of hax. What the verse need is that they can actually have a chance/ a win-con vs their foe.
 
I would suggest Graham for 5 place, as he is almost at the same level as Anos Voldigoad who is in 4 place
 
Yeah, IIRC, the Black Guardian is possible NEP type 2 (Might need to be removed though)
I feel like because of this, The Black Guardian specifically should be superior to Mother Eater, who iirc is NEP Type 1.
1. the Black Guardian
2. Mother Eater/Will of the Honkai/Characters from Doctor Who Characters/Characters from Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
3. characters from Toaru
 
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