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Top Five Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier 8: New Forum, same rules

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now the crt for nasuverse concept is accepted, kazuradrop should take the second place of 2-A.

lancer arturia should be able to take at least the 5# high 6-C except if 2-A resistance count as smurf too ?

and Space ishtar should be able to take a spot in low 2-C too

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Avenger (Space Ishtar)

Avenger is an Avenger-Class Servant able to be summoned by Ritsuka Fujimaru in the Grand Orders of Fate/Grand Order, first appearing as ally servant in Saber Wars II event. Avenger's true name is Ishtar, the Primordial Goddess who were demonized as Astaroth after Europe changed her name from her...
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deonment said:
what is her authority level
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high she is a primordial goddess that existed before the universe and the first goddess of venus (and in nasuverse more old= more powerful habitualy), she low 2-C and not 2-A just because she never interact with other god so can't do scalling, and the people she can scale to are not in vsb
 
deonment said:
she prolly wont pass 4th due to wizard 101 peeps being nuts
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Their low 2-C key seem not really that good, her resistance counter pretty much everything, and they don't resist bfr, conceptuel manip,soul manip, law manip in these key
 
Regidian said:
Their low 2-C key seem not really that good, her resistance counter pretty much everything, and they don't resist bfr, conceptuel manip,soul manip, law manip in these key
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the stuff gets nulled by shadow magic which works on a low 1-C level, also the absorption is passive and works on a 2-A level
 
deonment said:
the stuff gets nulled by shadow magic which works on a low 1-C level, also the absorption is passive and works on a 2-A level
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I mean if his thing work on low 1-C level it's smurf so he not should be here (and how anos was even above him)
 
Well space ishtar should take 3rd, she can't pass second as she can't deal with lavos acausality
 
Can someone please tell me for the love of all that is holy who is 9-B for DnD on this list?!
 
Klein for atleast 4th 9B he already beat toda.
He can do stuff like this

Klein needs less than 10s to gain full control of someone completely (this is for people who can resist).

Plus she can't kill him thanks to the sefirah castle from which he can sniper her with hax.

Can she even interact with him who is an abstract being? To kill him she would need to reach the Historical Void (Timeline) where his maggots hide or the Sefirah Castle but this is impossible with her range.

He can just look at her then summon her from the past and make the "her past" fight with the current her + his himself. His precog+analytical prediction will give him info about her even if he doesn't know her.

Can summon items that grant plot manipulation (but ignore this for now as I haven't yet added the sentient item on wiki), bfr to another dimension, summon the entire cast of characters (those from wiki but he can more sad not yet profiles for them). He can summon the location of the river of darkness where even outergods die (even the abstract concept of death will die).

Can bfr her through the cosmos where she will meet Outer Gods but this is not even needed since Klein is an OuterGod himself. His mere presence attacks the mind, and corrupts other beings (All types) as he may look like a human but his true form is that of a swirling mass of spirit worms and tentacles (is a conceptual being).

Everything at his level is conceptual - he can fool the concepts themselves thank to the Fool Authority.

He can copy everything she does or steals her abilities for a limited period of time.

And tens more powers and the like. He can grant wishes for example or create 5000 avatars to fight for him all with his powers. Like I said above if she stays for more than 10s in his presence she will become his marionette. Or his Azathoth ability which will make people stupid - is an ability that is higher than conceptual abilities in order or hierarchy.
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This should make him 1st 9B
 
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