Top Five Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier 3

[Ionliosite]

We are not going by it being useful or not, that's literally on the OP: "Basically only characters who don't have higher-dimentional hax or AP then their dimentional level (I.E. a 10D character can't have 11D hax, for example). Even if said hax is pratically useless."

Otherwise, Enrico Pucci and his beyond useless 4-D hax could be here.

 

[Culexus_Assassin]

So timehax shouldn't be an exception. it's 4-D. It's a smurf ability to anyone who's 3-d or lower. Doesn't matter if it's useful or not. Characters similar to Ainz should be yeeted from from this list.

 

[Ionliosite]

Ok, since you missed the discussion the last time, I'll wait to see who else agrees with your idea, because I don't see any reason time shouldn't be an exception to the rule.

 

[Culexus_Assassin]

If you truly want to make a list of Non-smurf characters you can't make any exceptions. Otherwise this list can just be called "Top 10 Strongest Almost Non-Smurfs for Every Tier"

 

[Ionliosite]

I personally wouldn't mind not having any exceptions at all, but the discussion chose otherwise, so meh.

 

[InfiniteSped]

Ban everyone, since they all have bodies with mass, and mass creates gravity that warps space and time.

 

[Culexus_Assassin]

Ban everyone, since they all have bodies with mass, and mass creates gravity that warps space and time.

There are several problems with that. Firstly, would having that mass that warps space-time actually grants them Space-Time Manipulation? It wouldn't. That's like saying a character that can intimidate poeple weaker than him can get Fearhax. They wouldn't. Think before you write, boy.

 

[Rocker1189]

There are several problems with that. Firstly, would having that mass that warps space-time actually grants them Space-Time Manipulation? It wouldn't. That's like saying a character that can intimidate poeple weaker than him can get Fearhax. They wouldn't. Think before you write, boy.

Funny because if you actually had the mass to do so significantly then yeah and funny people literally get fearhax from that (which I disagree with).

 

[Ionliosite]

... Dude, he was joking.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Dante is now a smurf, Yay!

 

[Rocker1189]

I mean if ranged gets allowed then my boy zilean needs to be put back there.

 

[Ionliosite]

I mean if ranged gets allowed then my boy zilean needs to be put back there.

Good point, range should totally not be allowed.

 

[Rocker1189]

Good point, range should totally not be allowed.

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[AnonymousBlank]

Guess Yhwach won't be reclaiming his spot in 5-B .......... which he is still in for some reason. Oh well, I'm fine with that.

 

[Bobsican]

Dante is now a smurf, Yay!

Okay, what happened now?

 

[Rocker1189]

Can LeBlanc 2nd key be put in 5th 7-C?

 

[Ionliosite]

So if we don't allow time abilities, who else would have to be removed aside from Dante and Ainz?

 

[Kwonto96]

For 3-A can we put dark schneider? Here is Dark Schneider

 

[Agnaa]

Wait, timehax is always considered 4-D? Even stuff like timestop? That seems super weird to me, I wouldn't expect, for example, Jotaro's timestop to work against a living timeline (essentially baseline Low 2-C).

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Okay, what happened now?

I'm joking with the posts above

 

[InfiniteSped]

Yeah, I don't think time abilities are some higher dimensional stuff by default.

If they are, then even My Hero Academia is smurf because Eri has time powers, and Eraserhead has 4-D powernull for being able to erase her quirk >_>

 

[Blahblah9755]

Manipulating time without manipulating space is only the manipulation of a single dimension.

 

[Rocker1189]

Actually LeBlanc can fight TSSDK characters apart from Diablo so she should share the spot with them, I totally forgot.

 

[Ionliosite]

Actually LeBlanc can fight TSSDK characters apart from Diablo so she should share the spot with them, I totally forgot.

Make the match.

 

[Rocker1189]

Make the match.

She was already beatin Souei in another match I linked before. And it was based not second key.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/3639388

 

[Ionliosite]

I seriously doubt Souei is one of the strongest 7-Cs on TenSura.

 

[Rocker1189]

I seriously doubt Souei is one of the strongest 7-Cs on TenSura.

He is not the strongest but the one that would be the hardest for her is Diablo her type 8 and her possession allows her to spam clones of her self and take control of people. And her soul manip is in the millions. The one that really gives her trouble is Diablo. And I am not sure that he can actually finish her off.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Just throw her against Rimuru or Diablo

 

[Rocker1189]

I am about to sleep, so maybe tmrw. But it should not be "characters in TSSGK" if it is just those 2.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Shion (Web Novel) is there too though, and she is a strong contender

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Also Beretta (Web Novel)

 

[Rocker1189]

Actually looking back there are so many of them I would probably just do a match with the gunvolt top tier, since it seems simpler.

 

[Rocker1189]

Oh the new change that lonliosite made makes more sense.

 

[Kwonto96]

Add Characters from He-man Masters of the Universe they are atleast Low 1-C.

 

[Kwonto96]

Also for 4-A add Asura from Asura's Wrath

 

[Kwonto96]

Add Samonosuke to 4-C from Onimusha

 

[Randomlamdom]

Chosen Undead / Bearer of the Curse? i don't know if they have any smurf things

 

[Muchacho_mrm]

Evileye for 8-C

 

[Ionliosite]

Add Characters from He-man Masters of the Universe they are atleast Low 1-C.

Are they 5-D?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Also for 4-A add Asura from Asura's Wrath

Gonna have to go with no, Asura is pretty weak besides AP stuff.

Edit: That made me think, 4-A Kirito should go in there.