Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier Part 14

[Gun_Slave_Unit]

isn't that kinda asinine? not too knowledgeable on senshinkan but the way it's indexed on the wiki right now is that it's a part of masadaverse still. putting masada on the first of 3-a but then putting senshinkan, which is still masada anyway, on the second feels pretty redundant. not to mention that senshinkan already got its own tier 3-a characters so if masadaverse sits on number 1, senshinkan would just fit right in anyway as a part of it

assuming hes not talking about someone from senshinkan, i'm guessing he was referring to ootake tenma and sukuna tenma

 

[Dvorak1902]

Who are the other two? Cause the Masada big 3 of Merc, Rein and Yakou is stupid broken.

Maybe not exactly as broken. But Tenma Ootake and Tenma Sukuna seem to have a fair share of 1-A bs on the 3-A key.

And no, Senshinkan is a completely different continuity and its characters don't even come close to those of Shinza Bansho in terms of power. Putting both of them on the same spot would be very, very wrong.

Maybe we should change "Masadaverse" to "Shinza Bansho" on the list, because that's exclusively what it refers to in this context.

 

[Gun_Slave_Unit]

both are still a part of a collective whole known as masadaverse, at least on how it's indexed currently. it'd be better if you actualize the separation of the two series first (which i believe had been discussed somewhere before) before indexing them on this kind of list as two separate verses but this is hardly the thread for it

 

[Dvorak1902]

They are already separate, look at Tier 7-C. It's just a thing of semantics, if it's that important, then just change the word "Masadaverse" for "Shinza Bansho". But the fact is, that for the purpose of this list they are different and should remain different.

 

[Sera_EX]

Keep the name Madadaverse. It's like the Nasuverse (not every Nasu story is connected but still considered part of the Nasuverse).

 

[Warren_Valion]

Except it isn't whatsoever - Shinza and Senshinkan have absolutely no connection to one another and they shouldn't be grouped together.

IIRC, the only reason it was even called the Masadaverse was to make a correlation to the Nasuverse.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Except it isn't whatsoever - Shinza and Senshinkan have absolutely no connection to one another and they shouldn't be grouped together.

they play a Dies Irae fighting game in Senshinka

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Pretty sure it makes sense to have them be under the same name when they cross-scale from each other, since the alternative seems really suspicious.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Why not just Say Masadaverse / Shinza-whatever/ Whomever Else???

 

[Warren_Valion]

Except it isn't whatsoever - Shinza and Senshinkan have absolutely no connection to one another and they shouldn't be grouped together.

they play a Dies Irae fighting game in Senshinkan </div>

That's why Senshinkan should actually be 1-A

That's just a reference.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Pretty sure it makes sense to have them be under the same name when they cross-scale from each other, since the alternative seems really suspicious.

They only cross-scale via WoG and its honestly debated on whether or not we should keep that scaling.

 

[Dvorak1902]

Yeah, just change the name. What says "Masadaverse" should say "Shinza Banshou".

 

[Maxnumb231]

Masada banshou. How about that?

 

[DnW0]

Except it isn't whatsoever - Shinza and Senshinkan have absolutely no connection to one another and they shouldn't be grouped together.

they play a Dies Irae fighting game in Senshinkan
</div>

That's why Senshinkan should actually be 1-A
That's just a reference.

No Dies Irae should be 10-C

 

[Sera_EX]

@Warren

We have had verses before that put every work of a specific writer under "<Author's name>verse", regardless if their works share a direct connection or not.

>Nasuverse

>Masadaverse

>Golovachev verse (I know it's been deleted but that's irrelevant to my point)

>Ergenverse

Etc.

This is just semantics and is derailing the thread anyway.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Question about High 6-C. How do any of them get past Hajime Hinata's passive Luck/Probability/Information Analysis? Because as it stands right now, he's beating a 5-C.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Also, Characters from Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ke easily take 7-C from Merkava.

All of them resist passive mindhax, Rimuru absorbs, Hinata steals his powers or strikes him 7 times destroying his soul or EE's him, Diablo ironically mindhaxes him passively. I'll have to see if they trump anyone else.

 

[Udlmaster]

So, now that, that is over, I believe we all are in unison, WoD can take the 3rd spot for 1-A

 

[Ionliosite]

I agree with Udl, The One Giver (who isn't 0 for some weird reason) should be above Akuto.

 

[Udlmaster]

I agree with Udl, The One Giver (who isn't 0 for some weird reason) should be above Akuto.

I am not pushing my luck with having a Tier 0 WoD character kek

 

[Blackcurrant91]

It's not pushing your luck. It's a natural result of them being upgraded to 1-A. One giver clearly transcends the 1-A's in the verse.

 

[Udlmaster]

I'll support a revision for her being Tier 0, but I'm not gonna make it.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

this same logic puts Lumi as Tier 0, and TOAA, who supposedly shouldn't be tier 0 to begin with, one feels like this isn't the case

 

[Udlmaster]

Like I said, I'm not gonna make that thread, this time, this isn't gonna be a WoD upgrade that's gonna spawn from me.

 

[Ionliosite]

Why is the Luminous Being above Akuto Sai? He doesn't sound to be close to Hiroshi, much less Akuto.

 

[Dvorak1902]

Wait. When did Lumi get up there? He may or may not be 0 within his verse but that means literally nothing.

 

[Maxnumb231]

Bcuz Lumi is that high?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Why is the Luminous Being above Akuto Sai? He doesn't sound to be close to Hiroshi, much less Akuto.

Because Lumi has the same feat as The One Giver. I hadn't been going to put them that high until people told me the same feat makes TGO that high.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Wait. When did Lumi get up there?
He may or may not be 0 within his verse but that means literally nothing.

You misunderstood. My implication was that if TGO was Tier 0, so would Lumi be. Because Lumi has the same feat, seeing the other 1-As of the verse as fiction.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Meng Hao (Post Immortal Ascension) for 2nd 3B

 

[Udlmaster]

The thing that makes The One Giver so high is the scaling, seeing 1-A as 2-D is Dot 2, One Outerversal transcendence.

For now, Lumi doesn't compare to the One Giver.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Size of cosmology doesnt mean shit to tier 0 atm, like Kami, TOAA and Overvoid are all way way below several 1-As from other verse since they have way larger cosmologies but that doesnt mean much in terms of the current tier 0 standard.

 

[Udlmaster]

Size of cosmology doesnt mean shit to tier 0 atm, like Kami, TOAA and Overvoid are all way way below several 1-As from other verse since they have way larger cosmologies but that doesnt mean much in terms of the current tier 0 standard.

I mean for where TOG is on the 1-A list, not Tier 0, I'd prefer not to touch the topic of TOG and Tier 0.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

LoN for 5th Low 1C

 

[Dvorak1902]

Can Thanatos counter Type 5 Acausality? He is above people with Type 2 Concept Manip but it's not on his profile.

 

[Zaratthustra]

Well, got seduced by two voices and done this.

Castiel Vs Meng Hao for the 2nd on 3-B.

God vs Demod

 

[Ionliosite]

Why is the Luminous Being above Akuto Sai? He doesn't sound to be close to Hiroshi, much less Akuto.

Because Lumi has the same feat as The One Giver. I hadn't been going to put them that high until people told me the same feat makes TGO that high.

Hiroshi sees 1-As that see as fiction 1-As that see as fiction 1-As that see as fiction 1-As ad infinitum. And this is Hiroshi, not Akuto, or the Void Body (the last two having immortality on TLOI, which is even higher in the scale).

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

so how is Misogi Kumagawa not in the strongest 8-Bs? I don't see how he would lose to Shigara.

 

[Dvorak1902]

WoD has 3 characters in 4-C and High 4-C, so I think they should all be put on the 1st spot of those tiers to save space.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

so how is Misogi Kumagawa not in the strongest 8-Bs? I don't see how he would lose to Shigara.

Shigara has 4-B protections and 4-B summons