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Just make the match.
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Top 5 Strongest Characters for Every Tier 36
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Ah yes he actively hold it back when he in his town since he didn't want to kill his citizen, and yes he didnt hold it back when he is in battle. Which is why i said holding back his aura should be a non factor in vs battle.
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Not even a thing to make a match about. This is just "passives aren't passives if you hold back usually".
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Bleach should lose their soul crush passives then.
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Time: The time and date are chosen in such a fashion that all characters are at their strongest. Paradoxes like it being night for one character, while being day for another are acceptable here. If extreme advantages are generated via this regulation to one side, a balanced alternative should be discussed in the thread.
Rimuru have his passives active Unless he hold it back during battle.
Rimuru have his passives active Unless he hold it back during battle.
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This but unironically
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They actually should bad example
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They only have passives for ppl who never hold back. The rest just have it as in character openings.
How did you get that from the text? My guy, it's talking about the time of day/year. Example Escanor, for escanor it's noon. Not "take the moment your character was poppin off and had everything activated".
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Wait what? What did the fate hax do to get high godly negation? Also I don't think Existence Erasure nor Causality Manipulation can negate high godly regeneration unless it mentions/shows they can.
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LN rimuru lost his high godly
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What happened? Was there a content revision for high godly? Or was regeneration from melt slash not a high godly feat anymore
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IDK, he just lost it, but he doesn't have it anymore
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He got upgraded to separate key.
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He didnt, just separate the key.
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I can't find it
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He never lost High-Godly, it just got switched into 6-A, christ...
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His profile is a wall of text, read it slowly.
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I am pretty sure we take them at their strongest in each key which would mean his aura is released.
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You didn't get the point, at their strongest, Escanor example is not wrong but the Time when Rimuru at battle which mean he will release his aura. It's not limited on conditional peak like Escanor.
"take the moment your character was poppin off and had everything activated"
If the character was just poppin off out nowhere then means Rimuru passive were active since he need to suppress it to hold it back.
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Well, both Rimuru's aura and a sword are useless while "inside" and both are "released" whenever the user is in battle, but for most part of the day they will be 'inside", i think it's less about "effort is needed" and more about "it isn't out 24/7".
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Yes, i carry an unseathed sword when i'm going to a market or when i'm going to sleep too but i seathed it when i'm going to kill someone.
Honestly thats dumb argument and false equation. Passives =/= a Seathed Sword.
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Oh.. i thought your argument is about sword is seathed at the start of battle.
But still it's not about "isn't out 24/7" but wether they're out when needed or not and of course that's not equal to Passives in general which needed an effort to "seathed" it and should be always active by default.
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Not really otherwise everyone would have passives via having them released already. Ikki would have desperado passives via having his bloodlust released. Stella would have EE passives via being at max power in her heat.
We even had a separate discussion for Reinhard and his spear passives. And it was concluded that he gets to keep his spear since apparently he was keeping his spear around even as he was playing random chess games, so in a random encounter he would probably have it. People at their strongest means "at their strongest keys" (which in this case it isn't cus we're forcing a key that is not his strongest) and/or "at their strongest time of day" (like i said, example escanor).
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Considering that i got into an argument once and it was decided that rakudai shouldn't start with their weapons out then yes they do come out with their sword sheathed. Again:
Preparation time: None. That means there is no time between the character knowing there is going to be some battle and the point they may start killing each other. They are, in a single instant, transported to the battlefield from their everyday activities, equipped with their equipment, transformed to the character version they battle in and given the correct state of mind.
So unless they have stuff out from their everyday activities, no.
Where you got that i have no idea. Time is not about "time when they're battling" it's about "time of day/date", it evens says "time or date" in there.
If the aura is being held back you need a thought to activate it again. You need to release the restraint on it. That requires conscious thoughts.
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I mean most of those passive have to be actively released with effort rather than expend effort in holding back. Also I assumed that Stella had her passives on in fights as long as she was in her dragon mode especially since it has its own tier.
I mean Reinhard is kinda his own case and it is based on the fact that he always has his spear he still expend effort in brining it out though as compared to holding the spear back.
Anyway it's how I assume it works I don't exactly know a character like rimuru who holds back stuff like that actively. The closest being bleach
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I mean whether it takes or doesn't take effort to hold back doesn't make a difference since both of those would need to have a "release" at the start of a battle.
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Rein for 2nd 5-A I believe?
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I think i can see why is that happening, thats because they need to summon their weapon just like Reinhard have to summon his Spear despite that being his standard equipment, of course you can't compare it to always active passives.
This is passives when activated, while Rimiru is always active passives. Completely different thing.
Pretty much all his ability were reset to default. Since they're transformed to specific key and the state of mind is corrected to battle mode and battle mode = not held his aura back.
This discussion is no different than the previous thread at all.
1. No one agree with you.
2. You're stone walling them.
3. Too tired going in circle argument.
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Passives they need to stop holding back on.
Rimuru holds back his passives. Not much different from Ikki holding back his bloodlust. What's your point? Held back is held back.
Again, misinterpreting the text. "Correct mindset" in this case just means "oh so this is a battle and i can kill if i want", which as you may have guessed is a conscious thought.
Ion agreed.
It's a matter of opinion. From my point of view you're the one stonewalling.
You're the one doing that.
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Yes, he did stop holding back when he is in battle. Your point?
So when in battle Ikki always full of bloodlust? I watch Rakudai so i know that's isn't true.
So everyone must start with non-combat state before the battle? What if Rimuru is eating Shion's dish, will he teleported with it to battlefield?
I feel bad for @Ionliosite , his name keep brought up in here.
I said them though
I mean we're going in circle because the only one who disagrees with Rimuru's passives is you.
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He did stop, a conscious thought.
Never said that, but it wouldn't be the case even if he were.
Yes, it's from their everyday activity. Ofc doesn't mean you can bring up ridiculous times, it's like saying "what if he was in the toilet?". So in general just assume he was having an average talk with someone or taking a stroll, they're pretty fair daily activities.
I mean, cus he agreed. I don't see your point.
Same thing, still a matter of opinion, not fact.
I mean so if anyone is trying to prove you wrong is by default arguing in circles? Yeah that seems like a fair take on a debate. Good point, i feel defeated.
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