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Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier
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The Complete Power tab grants her Type 1 Concept Manip which by the description says it can affect a Non-Existent Entity in Chaos so...maybe? I mean I'll do a match just to be safe but that's what it says in the description.
- Also, a sort of bump to my other suggestions. Super Mario Characters for an empty Low 6-B, in addition to that, swap the positions of FFIV and Arifureta, in that tier since the former are 4-D smurfs and the latter are not.
- Remove Greatest Master's Retirement Plan since the characters mentioned are High 6-C and not 6-C, replace them with characters from Genshin Impact for the empty spot with the most haxxy character I've seen being the Shogun Raiden Ei
- Characters from Honkai Star Rail for an empty spot in 4-C (Especially for Herrscher characters, like Welt Yang)
- Both Konron and Arifureta in 5-C, both are behind Wei Shi on the Non-Smurf list so Konron in 7th place and Arifureta in 8th
- Characters from Granblue Fantasy for an empty spot in 1-C
- Lastly, is Li Qiye's Type 5 Acausality applicable to his strongest 3-B key? I ask because this got accepted. So if not, then Sephiroth's gonna need to be moved up to #5 in 3-B due to his newfound Spiritual Energy blessings like Type 1 Concept Manip which Li Qiye doesn't seem to have an answer for.
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No, it becomes applicable in 2-C and on
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In Low 5-B: What can Ruphas and Taurus do against Hajime ?
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1B plot and power null
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no he has little notable offensive hax only good defensive stuff it is why he got removed from 2B list in previous thread
God (Tokyo Babel)
God is the supreme being of Tokyo Babel Pilgrims of the Apocalypse. God is omnipotent and allknowing because he was created by the hope of mankind to fulfill their desires for miracles. Thus God went back in time in the existing world and recreated the world in order to fulfill their wishes...vsbattles.fandom.com
lets put this guy at number 8 for now although i did just make a 2-A crt for the verse
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you sure he only has good defensive hax?
he has stuff like this
Mind Manipulation (It's voice drives people insane and getting near to God causes people to go insane causing them to experience a near infinite amount of death. Those who enter the mind of God also go insane)
Causality Manipulation (The causality of the multiverse passively protects it from being harmed, and it can actively rewrite causality, and inflict infinite damage on its targets)
Death Manipulation (Once it extends it's hands with a certain intention, he can decide the life or death of his target regardless of how far way the target is
Corruption (Type 2) (Can corrupt whatever enters its mind and soul, resulting in them being destroyed),
and has CM 2 which he uses offensively
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Kamen Rider Barlcxks VS Darkseid (Pre-Flashpoint)
-Both are in their Low 1-C key. -The fight start in Apokolips. -Speed is equalized. -Otherwise SBA. SOUGO Tokiwa: Ruler of Apokolips:
Ballcock Vs Darkseid. So far, the only supporter stated that it's a stomp for Ballcock.
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The good defensive stuff he is talking about is the Type 5 Acausality that God and Tiamat-Lilith once had.
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oh
i just made a CRT to bring his aca 5 back
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What stop them from taking the first spot ?
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it is not passive hax
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Alien X should also get a spot in 1-B cause he's 26D, although he only has 4D HDE so a match could be made with him
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What does Ji Ning do in his 8-D key? Any passive?
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No passives (at least none that matter offensively, he has passive future sight and danger sense).
He didn't do much in this key, but the first thing iirc was EE (which has 2 or 3 layers, nothing too impressive).
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Kamen Rider Zi-O
Sougo Tokiwa (常磐ソウゴ Tokiwa Sōgo), alternatively spelt Sogo Tokiwa, is an 18-year-old (19 as of Episode 34) high school student (graduated as of Episode 29) who is visited by Tsukuyomi and Black Woz from 50 years in the future and learns that he is destined to become the tyrannical ruler of their...
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Zi-O have type 2 Nondual and his first move as Oma is beating his enemies to death.
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Not sure why but I couldn't find Nonduality type 2 on his profile, only type 1, anyway, how good is his NPI? If they can't interact with each other it would just end in incon.Kamen Rider Zi-O
Sougo Tokiwa (常磐ソウゴ Tokiwa Sōgo), alternatively spelt Sogo Tokiwa, is an 18-year-old (19 as of Episode 34) high school student (graduated as of Episode 29) who is visited by Tsukuyomi and Black Woz from 50 years in the future and learns that he is destined to become the tyrannical ruler of their...
Zi-O have type 2 Nondual and his first move as Oma is beating his enemies to death.
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His Non-Dual Type 2 are from Zi-O II onward. There's also one in Oma Profile who will be used in this fight anyway.
Can interact with Type 1 Abstract existence that merge with all of reality which also embodiment of heroism itself, type 1 concept, NEP, and break the face of Nondual Type 1 with a dropkick.
He also have Type 1 Conceptual Power Absorption, Layered time stop, Layered time erasure that bypass Type 1 and 4 Acausality with those characters also resist time hax that bypass the Type 1 and 4 Acausality, Type 1 Conceptual plot hax, and so on.
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Containing opposing concepts is all it takes to have type 2 nonduality?
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It's a lot more complicated than that. Basically to control the duality of past-present, he have to first control the duality of...everything inside that past and present first. In and out, light and dark, and everything in between to truly become the one true king of past and the future. Which promptly transcend himself from the concept of "time" itself, surpassing all duality within his own system.
Kamen Rider Transduality Revision "II"
Another duality thread, this time focusing on our loveable Demon King. Because this revision is about duality, I'd like to go over the definition of yin and yang, which is the fundamental concept of duality and has a lot to do with this thread. [BIG NOTE]: Big thanks to Jamesthetaker who help...
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Kamen Rider Zi-O for 9-B. (He's actually a Low 1-C in disguise with 1-C concept immortality.)
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sounds like Morghur walks over and he transforms from "sane man" to "inhuman screaming blob".
Morghur has 1-A passives in a 100 meter radius around him. And combat-applicable Immortality.
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Fine by me, does Khatep and people below Morghur have something to put him down?
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EhhhhhIt's a lot more complicated than that. Basically to control the duality of past-present, he have to first control the duality of...everything inside that past and present first. In and out, light and dark, and everything in between to truly become the one true king of past and the future. Which promptly transcend himself from the concept of "time" itself, surpassing all duality within his own system.
Kamen Rider Transduality Revision "II"
Another duality thread, this time focusing on our loveable Demon King. Because this revision is about duality, I'd like to go over the definition of yin and yang, which is the fundamental concept of duality and has a lot to do with this thread. [BIG NOTE]: Big thanks to Jamesthetaker who help...vsbattles.com
I see, it's really not easy but I guess I could still try upgrading Ning to have Nonduality type 2 as well.
Also, since it was brought up in the OP of that CRT, do you know if in-verse quotes about Yin-Yang would help get Nonduality?
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Potentially, if the yin and yang in question encompassed all duality then that might apply. Still, I'm not the guy who made the CRT. So you should ask Oma instead.
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what was the reason for removing Lavos again?
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I think it was because its profile is outdated?
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As I said, get yourself a halfway decent smurf and Khatep just loses, if you can beat him down and resist his magic there's not a whole lot he can do to people. Unfortunately resisting his powernull is out of the question but he's not out here making a Low 1-C not Low 1-C, and he's useless in a melee confrontation with no skill feats to speak of.
As for the rest, John's got 1-B haxes, and Jill is at wherever DC Cosmology is at nowadays in terms of smurfery, everyone else is either barely a smurf or not a 1-C smurf
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Krog-Gar's pet undead Frog should probably go #2 in 10-B because
1: SCP is getting nuked so #1 ain't gonna be there anymore
2: Kaito's Plot Manipulation does not do Jack shit to Kroak's True Form because that thing is a 1-A omegasmurf layers above Shiro and as such Kroak just decides he didn't die and pops back up and haxes Shiro herself. Unlike most fantasy characters who are grey-line smurfs in their minds/souls, Kroak is 1000% a smurf in that regard and as such is unkillable because there are like a billion requirements to even interact with his true form.
1: SCP is getting nuked so #1 ain't gonna be there anymore
2: Kaito's Plot Manipulation does not do Jack shit to Kroak's True Form because that thing is a 1-A omegasmurf layers above Shiro and as such Kroak just decides he didn't die and pops back up and haxes Shiro herself. Unlike most fantasy characters who are grey-line smurfs in their minds/souls, Kroak is 1000% a smurf in that regard and as such is unkillable because there are like a billion requirements to even interact with his true form.
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Since you're the main Kamen Rider guy in this thread, is Zero-One a smurf in his H6A key? If he isn't then what are his powers that give him that spot?
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The thing that he have in this key is his Quantum DODGE. If there's a chance to not die, he will dodge into that possibility. This even work even after he die.
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Got it, thanks.
So, two questions, is his offensive hax as good as his defensive hax? Can his Quantum Dodge protect him from incap as well?
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It protects him from death post death, I see no reason why it won't work post incap as he would just 'dodge' into another possibility where the opponent doesnt use the incap across several trillions possibilities. He have molecular deconstruct, and his accelerated development is very funny (blitz opponent just as they accelerated development to blitz him, 50x Stat jump, precog into other people precog because he's just that good, and techniques copy). He can also naturally amp his speed to blitz peer opponent with a press of a button, with all of them have dealt with speed blitz via precog before.
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Why is unwritten higher than marvel comic in High 1-A?
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Big High 1-A Cosmology.
They're the highest High 1-A on the site in terms of fuckery
